Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Or Clowney may be another College DE that cannot stand up and play OLB in a 3-4. I think he'll be a stud at DE in a 3-4, but can't see him as a 3-down, 3-4 OLB. I feel we really should have at least one, 3-down OLB on our team. I'd rather have UCLA's Barr and it has nothing to do with a speeding ticket. My personal best behind the wheel was 117 MPH on an Interstate in Wyoming on the way to Jackson Hole circa 1971, but was shotgun in a '68 Vette "rolling" up I-71 at 130-something. LOL... That's my worry. I'm in Gamecock country. I'm, I guess, a Gamecock fan by default if I had to pick one. I've watched every Clowney snap since his senior year of high school. I've met him. I've watched him practice. And there no denying he is , without a doubt, the single most athletically gifted person to enter the draft in the last 15 years. He's physically superior to Peppers as a prospect in every fashion. But, I'm worried that he may not make the transition to the NFL as well. He's had a bad season being double, and sometimes triple, teamed. It will happen in the NFL, too. Add in the other nuances of the game, and I'm just worried he may go the way of Vernon Gholston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 That's my worry. I'm in Gamecock country. I'm, I guess, a Gamecock fan by default if I had to pick one. I've watched every Clowney snap since his senior year of high school. I've met him. I've watched him practice. And there no denying he is , without a doubt, the single most athletically gifted person to enter the draft in the last 15 years. He's physically superior to Peppers as a prospect in every fashion. But, I'm worried that he may not make the transition to the NFL as well. He's had a bad season being double, and sometimes triple, teamed. It will happen in the NFL, too. Add in the other nuances of the game, and I'm just worried he may go the way of Vernon Gholston. if he is double and triple teamed in the NFL or hell even right now, he's doing more for your D than if he gets 15 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 if he is double and triple teamed in the NFL or hell even right now, he's doing more for your D than if he gets 15 sacks. Not so much for South Carolina, as the rest of their defensive line could get blocked by a sawhorse and some caution tape. In the NFL, he may get to the level where he'll command double teams regularly, and that would free up another rusher, but that is an if. He'll no doubt be sporadically double teamed but taking a guy in the top ten just to be a blocking dummy isn't a high value pick. Especially when you have four capable OLB's on your roster. I understand the value of commanding that much attention, but it's just not the right direction for the Browns at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Not so much for South Carolina, as the rest of their defensive line could get blocked by a sawhorse and some caution tape. In the NFL, he may get to the level where he'll command double teams regularly, and that would free up another rusher, but that is an if. He'll no doubt be sporadically double teamed but taking a guy in the top ten just to be a blocking dummy isn't a high value pick. Especially when you have four capable OLB's on your roster. I understand the value of commanding that much attention, but it's just not the right direction for the Browns at the moment. If he's there, you take him simply because he's the BPA and its not even close. He could play both DE and OLB given the situation. He would be a HUGE upgrade over Kruger immediately. And him being on the field is making it tons easier on the guys playing opposite him, not his fault they aren't capitalizing. Good thing about Krugers contract os we can dump him after year 2 or so for almost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Here's my take. I'd love to have him. Its always cool to have the potential best player at his position in the league. Also probably any of the quarterbacks in the first 3 rounds are going to shake out equally, at least no one is less of a crapshoot then the rest. That being said I don't think we are desperate to replace Paul Kruger. He's a serviceable player as it is. So back to the age old question, draft for best player available or draft for need. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Here's my take. I'd love to have him. Its always cool to have the potential best player at his position in the league. Also probably any of the quarterbacks in the first 3 rounds are going to shake out equally, at least no one is less of a crapshoot then the rest. That being said I don't think we are desperate to replace Paul Kruger. He's a serviceable player as it is. So back to the age old question, draft for best player available or draft for need. WSS I definitely wasn't dogging Kruger but he's definitely not worth his contract. But Clowney is a once in a generation talent that shouldn't be passed up if given the opportunity to draft him. Hed come at half the price of Kruger and be here a minimum of 5 years. As for the age old question....Its a combination of the two. If the guy is the BPA by a wide margin u take him regardless of position and if its close u take the guy who's a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Yes. I think we should always take that one in a million blue chip player if one is available regardless of need. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think he'll be a stud at DE in a 3-4... Should have read "I think he'll be a stud in a 4-3." Yes. I think we should always take that one in a million blue chip player if one is available regardless of need. The one (and only) need you have to impose on your draft is that the players fit your scheme. If you think Clowney can adapt to the 3-4, fine.... but you'd better be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Should have read "I think he'll be a stud in a 4-3." The one (and only) need you have to impose on your draft is that the players fit your scheme. If you think Clowney can adapt to the 3-4, fine.... but you'd better be sure. That makes a great deal of sense, I hadn't really thought of it. No point in buying the best wood saw in the world if you want to cut sheet metal. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert_58 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Busted....again: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000304379/article/jadeveon-clowney-cited-for-speeding-could-lose-license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Someone who doesn't like authority obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 He's still going top 2..either to the Texans or Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Busted....again: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000304379/article/jadeveon-clowney-cited-for-speeding-could-lose-license He will soon have enough to hire a chauffeur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 He's still going top 2..either to the Texans or Redskins. I think you mean the rams?redskins dont have a 1st rounder this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 I think you mean the rams? redskins dont have a 1st rounder this year. Clowney and Quinn together? That would be scary. Like Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Yeah no doubt. I think it was an ESPN article from shefter that talked about the players they have put together from that trade. Good core of guys, just glad that it was the redskins and not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Clowney and Quinn together? That would be scary. Like Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen! You forgot Chris Long, Howie's kid. And like this group: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 And these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I think you mean the rams? redskins dont have a 1st rounder this year. oh shit that's right I forgot. Durp. Hmmm, what needs do the Rams have? They're probably sticking with Bradford so no QB for them....yeah they could very well pick Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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