Frenchie Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 According to Kiper, the Browns, Rams and Falcons will be active in making trades on draft day. The Browns have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Well, the Browns have the potential to do this, but they haven't acted like a team in "panic mode" and I hope they don't start acting like one in May. We need 7 quality players from those first 7 picks, with the first three going QB, WR, CB (in some order) and the next 3 going ILB, OG/OT, OG/OC. Then select BPA. Do you think they'll trade and move up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 NOT with the #4 pick. Maybe with the second first round pick. But I don't know why even then... It depends on how the draft goes. If there is a run on OG's, or a particular player they really want... this draft is especially impossible to figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Kiper wildly changes his mocks bimonthly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 It's safe to say we will be actively trading on or before draft day. Most likely will see us roll some of our 2014's up and out into 2015. Especially look for this if we do not take a QB at #4 (which I pray we do not)... In all the mock sims I've done that 2nd #1 we have at #26 almost always seems to be in no man's land... especially when Sammy was my pick at #4. I can easily see our trading start with that pick... and I do not expect it to stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 In a matter of 2 months Kiper has went from Teddy to JF to Clowney. The dude hair has him all kind of confused. We are sitting pretty in the draft. Now let them FO guys do what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarker Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I think most of the FA/draft posts in this message board are better than what Kiper has to say. Better than Carucci's too, awa many of his guest commenters for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 do I think they'll trade? only if they bend over again! they get screwed when they trade. so I hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBrown Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I hate all the draft blow hards but kiper is the worst. Easiest job in the world and still comes off like a smug douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I got some info from a board friend(another board) who pays for insider status....for whatever that's worth...anyway...the rumor is Haslam has said all in on winning this year and the Browns are looking to trade back up in to the top 10...shipping our #26 pick, 2nd, one of the 3rds, and next years #1. We draft Watkins at #4 and somebody else soon after. Again, I don't know how credible this info might be. Maybe it has some legs or maybe it is just some guy throwing out wild conjecture to make it seem worth having "insider" status......but it does fall in along the lines of the article on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That an awfully steep price, so much I don't know if it'd be smart to part with so much. Like I said two days ago, I was thinking either we can offer the 26 and next years 1 to move up to the 12ish range or keep next years one and trade some lower rounds this year. But giving up next years and additional lower rounders this year ... that's giving up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBrown Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That an awfully steep price, so much I don't know if it'd be smart to part with so much. Like I said two days ago, I was thinking either we can offer the 26 and next years 1 to move up to the 12ish range or keep next years one and trade some lower rounds this year. But giving up next years and additional lower rounders this year ... that's giving up a lot. Yeah, i don't like it either. It hasn't worked out recently too well for those who mortgage the future for now, i.e. falcons, redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Just a FYI.....I looked at the numbers and the draft value chart...I picked #7 as to where we would trade....the picks this year are about 100 points less than the value of the improved position. How you figure a future pick value is unknown. No matter what draft slot you pick, that has to be discounted some because I think a current pick is worth more than a future pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yeah I would say fuck that. Our second first rounder, second and third rounder maybe. That's if a team with a 10-13 spot would bite. Damn sure not giving up a first next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Well, on April 11th the movie Draft Day will be coming out featuring the Cleveland Browns and their GM making some wild and crazy moves on/around Draft Day. So, it is highly possible that Jimmy Haslam may want life to imitate art. So expect some big surprises on Draft Day, both the movie...and the real thing by the Cleveland Browns. The Browns are very public relations conscious and very well may want the momentum of the movie to carry through to the draft with an effort to amp up the excitability factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yeah I would say fuck that. Our second first rounder, second and third rounder maybe. That's if a team with a 10-13 spot would bite. Damn sure not giving up a first next year Hey, I don't like it myself. I would do it if we could keep this years 2nd rounder, but then I don't think it would be enough for a team to trade out of the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I would want to trade with the Vikings if they wanted to move up for Bridgewater .... I would take their 1st round and 2nd round pick and a conditional pick next year ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I would want to trade with the Vikings if they wanted to move up for Bridgewater .... I would take their 1st round and 2nd round pick and a conditional pick next year .....That is my dream scenario. That would give us plenty of ammo to move back up into the top 15 and have two top 15 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I would want to trade with the Vikings if they wanted to move up for Bridgewater .... I would take their 1st round and 2nd round pick and a conditional pick next year ..... From what I heard on the radio Bridewater had a horrendous pro day and hurt his stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 do I think they'll trade? only if they bend over again! they get screwed when they trade. so I hope not This "they" is a new "they" and have no record of either being the screwer or the screwie... I got some info from a board friend(another board) who pays for insider status....for whatever that's worth...anyway...the rumor is Haslam has said all in on winning this year and the Browns are looking to trade back up in to the top 10...shipping our #26 pick, 2nd, one of the 3rds, and next years #1. Winning what? I hope that's insider BS cause it's as stupid as stupid gets. There are no shortcuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Judging by the comments, we collectively seem to agree that we should be "sellers" more than "buyers" (i.e. either moving back and getting more picks and/or pushing to next year). I don't like hearing the "win-now" concept, because I just want to "improve now" and build something competitive that can go .500, in the division and overall record. That would be a huge step in the right direction for us and this management. I can't remember the last time we fielded an NFL ready starting line-up, let alone "win" anything. Stability and good decision making and luck make for a winner. For example, any team that has hit on a franchise QB outside of the first round (SF, Seattle, Dallas, NE etc.) has just been lucky. That could have been a Frye or McCoy for us but we've been unlucky for quiet some time (QB's, Winslow, Edwards, Bentley ...) So far this management team has made some good decisions and I hope they stick to it and don't over-reach. As I said, they really need a QB WR and CB with the first three picks. If they don't like the QB's then maybe it's WR, CB and OG or ILB. Then 4 more picks to get the other missing pieces. Then take some chances in rounds 5-7 and see if something hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Judging by the comments, we collectively seem to agree that we should be "sellers" more than "buyers" (i.e. either moving back and getting more picks and/or pushing to next year). I don't like hearing the "win-now" concept, because I just want to "improve now" and build something competitive that can go .500, in the division and overall record. That would be a huge step in the right direction for us and this management. I can't remember the last time we fielded an NFL ready starting line-up, let alone "win" anything. Stability and good decision making and luck make for a winner. For example, any team that has hit on a franchise QB outside of the first round (SF, Seattle, Dallas, NE etc.) has just been lucky. That could have been a Frye or McCoy for us but we've been unlucky for quiet some time (QB's, Winslow, Edwards, Bentley ...) So far this management team has made some good decisions and I hope they stick to it and don't over-reach. As I said, they really need a QB WR and CB with the first three picks. If they don't like the QB's then maybe it's WR, CB and OG or ILB. Then 4 more picks to get the other missing pieces. Then take some chances in rounds 5-7 and see if something hits. Well I think we have been building for 15 yrs, time to start winning, I think with 10 picks you can do both, its not like our team is old. As to trading, I think it just depends on how the FO values players. I too thought it might be cool to trade back into the 1st, with say 3 1st round picks if that were possible, but the cost is likely very high. I suspect there may be some movement by the browns, not sure if there will be big movement or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.R.Brown1968 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I hope we don't draft a qb until the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 That is my dream scenario. That would give us plenty of ammo to move back up into the top 15 and have two top 15 picks yours! i'd pick evans and turn around and pick gilbert. 2 major wholes filled. OT(s), LB, other picks to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuNNerGatSKi Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 yours! i'd pick evans and turn around and pick gilbert. 2 major wholes filled. OT(s), LB, other picks to trade up. I'd love that. Or Mack/gilbert or mack/evans. The more I watch Mack and the more I contemplate which player will give us the greatest, sustained impact at four I have to say that will be K. Mack. Imagine the kind of defense we could field with a Mack/Gilbert first round. Fuck it gives a raging woody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 According to Kiper, the Browns, Rams and Falcons will be active in making trades on draft day. The Browns have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. Well, the Browns have the potential to do this, but they haven't acted like a team in "panic mode" and I hope they don't start acting like one in May. We need 7 quality players from those first 7 picks, with the first three going QB, WR, CB (in some order) and the next 3 going ILB, OG/OT, OG/OC. Then select BPA. Do you think they'll trade and move up? I think if the Browns trade they will move down, not up. I'm betting we invest in other positions this year and assets for next years draft to target a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted March 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 We can get 7 key young players in the first 4 rounds of the draft. I would suggest we not play too many games and get the missing talent that we need in so many positions including (in no certain order) QB, RB, CB, OG, ILB, WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 It is getting closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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