gftChris Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 According to Pro Football Focus, yes, through 8 weeks of the NFL , Dansby is the best ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 According to Pro Football Focus, yes, through 8 weeks of the NFL , Dansby is the best ILB. Where is Patrick Willis? The only thing I can say is that the state of NFL ILBs appears not to be what it once was. Back in the 60s you had the likes of Butkus/Nitscke/Lanier/Huff/Curtis/Schmidt/Nobis/Bednarik/ Even more recently you had Ray Lewis, Junior Seau, Urlacher. Do any of these guys seem to be on that order? Kuechly maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Athlon Sports lists its top MLBs as well. Of their top 10 MLBs, 4 were Bears: Butkus, Singlerary, Urlacher, Bill George. Amazing that one franchise had so many good ones. On the other hand, see this link which posts the 54 best LBs of all time. Not a single Browns player makes the list.....though I think they are dead wrong for leaving out either Clay Matthews or Jim Houston: http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/top-25-greatest-linebackers-of-all-time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Dansby is very, very, very good. Winn is back this week, hopefully Rubin is healthy, we need better play up front. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Stop the run and we'll see a *massive* improvement on our D. Our secondary is starting to pick up - even Gilbert looked good against the Jags. Haden played well, Gipson just be like "that's mine, son" and Williams looks like a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 According to Pro Football Focus, yes, through 8 weeks of the NFL , Dansby is the best ILB. Link to article? to table key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I believe it. He's been playing great. All over the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Link to article? to table key? Key? Green good, red bad. Have a google for the article, won't be hard to find. Sorry, I normally do link but don't have time right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would really like to see Dansby as an All Pro this year. In addition to his own play, he has been an invaluable addition as a veteran presence. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Article not really talking about his performance, more a fluff piece about his past http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/10/how_karlos_dansby_overcame_chi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Oh boy next someone is going to tell me that Paul Kruger is the best OLB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Key? Green good, red bad. Have a google for the article, won't be hard to find. Sorry, I normally do link but don't have time right now. Well when you get a chance... google is not turning up specific PFF article and site is not very search friendly. Although I am color blind, I was interested in the grading system used to generate the table, not how to interpret the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Article not really talking about his performance, more a fluff piece about his past http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/10/how_karlos_dansby_overcame_chi.html it's right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 He's flailed against the run every single game this year. Every single one. I don't want to hear some stats bullshit from some dipshit who doesn't understand that numbers hide the fact that somebody's getting "BEASTED"...which he has. For a time there was a discussion about whether it's the scheme getting our LB'ers out of place or something...but now I just don't know. This many games in and our defense sits and sucks a fat cock everytime the opposing OC dials up an inside run. What stats also don't reflect is that, as far as I've heard, not a single gut damn Brown on that defense has stepped forward and accepted accountability for glaring deficiency of football fundamentals. And as the captain of that defense what has Dansby said this year? I'm gonna say it again even though I know you guys hate this name, but Ray Lewis would have been slobbering all over himself had one of his defense's got run on this hard. He played balls out even when everyone else on the team wasn't playing up. He would apologize to the fans if some RB got 90 yards. Ok I get it that was a completely different defense than ours....but it's that accountability that you have to respect Lewis for. At least football accountability right? He never did own up to shooting some folks but I'm gonna leave it about what happens on the field for right now. This is a joke run defense. A complete joke. With the talent and depth we have in the interior, our OLB'ers were supposed to be green lighted this year to go get the QB. Ain't happenin. Expect to see a lot of runs break outside from here on out cause our OLB"ers have to cave in. Only a matter of time before a good blocking TE seals off the edge and a FB blows up one of our DB's or SS....and it's off to the races for htat RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't want to hear warmed-over verbal diarrhea from some dipshit who refuses to understand statistics, and ignores all plays that don't fit your objectively wrong views. Every play matters. The results posted by the OP study the performance of each player on each play. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 He can't stop the run. We can all see it....on "each play". He blitzes well. He'll have some impact plays in the backfield on blitzes. I understand football, not stats. I've seen him try to make tackles even when he was in position in a way that would get a high school LB'er yelled at by his coaches on Monday. So I refuse to hear some mealy mouthed vaginal discharge from some shit eating stats finger faggot who's never met a ballcarrier in the hole. I don't want to hear warmed-over verbal diarrhea from some dipshit who refuses to understand statistics, and ignores all plays that don't fit your objectively wrong views. Every play matters. The results posted by the OP study the performance of each player on each play. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 He can't stop the run. We can all see it....on "each play". He blitzes well. He'll have some impact plays in the backfield on blitzes. I understand football, not stats. I've seen him try to make tackles even when he was in position in a way that would get a high school LB'er yelled at by his coaches on Monday. So I refuse to hear some mealy mouthed vaginal discharge from some shit eating stats finger faggot who's never met a ballcarrier in the hole. Yet most of his first place, 10.2 points come from the +6.2 he received for defending the run... doesn't mean he's perfect in any phase of the game... The ranking is for overall play. There are higher run ratings (a couple 8.9's), but those players pale in comparison in the other categories. There are higher pass ratings, but vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 In the 1st half when they were running well again Dansby was out of place. He over pursues the run constantly. He has no nose for the run game. He makes tackles from behind when the secondary is diving at the runners knees making him slow down. Luckily our offense was productive enough today so that the Raiders had to abandon the run. McFadden only got 12 carries but had like a 5 yd avg. Had they been able to stick to the run the game probably would have turned out different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Series 1: 3 carries net 19 yards Series 2: 2 / 9 Series 3: 1 / 3 Series 4: 5 / 14 Series 5: 1 / 2 Series 6: 0 / 0 but was near end of half... Not saying it's all Dansby (appears he made many more tackles on pass plays), but looks to me like starting with series 3 we pretty well stuffed their run. You can't stick with what stops working... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Series 1: 3 carries net 19 yards Series 2: 2 / 9 Series 3: 1 / 3 Series 4: 5 / 14 Series 5: 1 / 2 Series 6: 0 / 0 but was near end of half... Not saying it's all Dansby (appears he made many more tackles on pass plays), but looks to me like starting with series 3 we pretty well stuffed their run. You can't stick with what stops working... Yep. He had 2 good runs on the first series. Thats all. Then we completely shut him down for the rest of the game. In the next 3-1/2 quarters he was 9 for 28, which is barely 3 ypc. Sorry, but the run defense showed up yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.