calfoxwc Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Well, it's true. This man wrote a book about his Christian beliefs. What happens? He has been suspended for it, because "people" complained. If you aren't the left, you are the left's enemy. Sounds a lot like isil, in that way.... http://www.redstate.com/2014/11/25/atlantas-fire-chief-suspended-for-publicly-professing-christian-beliefs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 How dare he stand up for traditional moral values! What a bunch of bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 So... It's borderline hate speech protected by religious rights? Alright... Why exactly to some "Christians" cling to this anti gay stuff but not other parts of the bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 woody strayed from the subject again, I suppose. whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hate speech? Yeah Woody. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 How is it hate speech? Even borderline hate speech? I don't agree with your assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 He is a public employee and I could see why his employer would get pissed. By having a guy professing his views that homosexual lifestyles are "vile" and "vulgar" as their chief, the dept is setting themselves up for anyone with an axe to grind to sue them under the pretense they were discriminated against in the hiring process or while employed with the dept. I personally don't give a shit but you have to look at it knowing we live in a world full of people dying to get a dime for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Upside for him is that I am sure this controversy isn't hurting book sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I love the idea that there's a 'gay mafia' - driving round in pink limousines, running a wedding planning racket and leaving unicorns' heads in people's beds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Rap music is vile and vulgar but that's not hate speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I love the idea that Chris thinks that the subject is pink limosines so he can feign indignance and righteousness while having nothing legit to say about the actual subject of the article. Trouble, Logic, is that you could be a Christian, and get suspended because they object. Or a hunter, and other groups could object, that they could be possibly discriminated against because they are members of peta. So, a policeman must be pro perversion, pro anything, or else he may be a bigot in doing his job? So, no gays should ever be policemen, because they might very well be sued by straight people, who claim that they are Christian, and claim they are being discriminated against? Nah. There isn't a crime that says you failed to be like the person you arrest. The crime is acting discriminatory because someone is different than you. Yeah, the left has gotten to "if you disagree with us, you are guilty of hate speech" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Times are changing http://news.yahoo.com/evangelicals-gay-children-challenging-church-203000318.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Times are changing http://news.yahoo.com/evangelicals-gay-children-challenging-church-203000318.html So gays are immoral sinners... ... until it is your kid. Then the church needs to reform. How about realizing that without it taking a direct family member to be gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Rap music is vile and vulgar but that's not hate speech If the Fire Chief wrote a song about killing all the white people, then I'd say the same thing, an he'd deserve the same punishment. You don't choose to be gay. Its genetic. They already face persecution. His book is just continuing that. I mean, he should still be able to write the book. I don't think it is calling for attacking the gays. But, just like every other case like this, he's not immune from the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upper lip Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think woody is gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 If the Fire Chief wrote a song about killing all the white people, then I'd say the same thing, an he'd deserve the same punishment. You don't choose to be gay. Its genetic. They already face persecution. His book is just continuing that. I mean, he should still be able to write the book. I don't think it is calling for attacking the gays. But, just like every other case like this, he's not immune from the consequences. The point is "vile" and "Vulgar" don't count as hate speech. "Disgusting faggot that should be dead" is hate speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 So gays are immoral sinners... ... until it is your kid. Then the church needs to reform. How about realizing that without it taking a direct family member to be gay? Some people can't or won't think that way EVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 The point is "vile" and "Vulgar" don't count as hate speech. "Disgusting faggot that should be dead" is hate speech. I said borderline. He's writing about how a group of people are vile, vulgar, sinners,etc because of something they have no control over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Serial killers have no control over what they do either. Or serial rapists. Should we pity them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Serial killers have no control over what they do either. Or serial rapists. Should we pity them? They have no control over what they do? What? When was I talking about having "control" over what someone does? If you are trying to equate serial rapists to gays then you've already lost any argument you were trying to have by making that type of comparison. Serial rapists, serial killers, pedofiles, etc, yes, they all have some genetic abnormality to influence what they do. But in the end they hurt other people, gay people do not. You can feel pitty for those killers if you want to, but that doesnt mean we have to treat them the same or something. Do you not see the difference between the two cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I said borderline. He's writing about how a group of people are vile, vulgar, sinners,etc because of something they have no control over. Its not even close to borderline. If you're not religious what do you care if someone calls you a sinner? And vulgar and vile are nothing. At what point is the political correctness going to get so rampant that simply saying something like "I disagree" is going to be attacked as hate speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 It's not "I disagree". It's painting these people as awful, terrible, and second class because of how they were born. You don't have to accept it. You just have to tolerate it and not condemn these people. And that's all without questioning the fact that all of this hate comes from a certain interpretation of an ancient story book that's been translate and edited dozens of times... But why address that issue when these Christians are having their religious beliefs attrcked by the gay mafia... Lol Whatever though. We're becoming less ignorant as a country everyday (about some things). It has to suck for gays though. Also, I see nothing wrong with his punishment. Ignorance shouldn't be allowed to hide behind religion (yes, any religion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I say, most folks hate their perverted behavior. "Born" outside the concrete norm, then going arrogant and demanding to intimidate complete acceptance is the problem. Most folks didn't get upset about the civil unions. That gave the gay community those "rights" they wanted. No, they didn't really want rights, they wanted to use their battles as a cause with no end. Want redefine normal sexuality and marriage. It's an in-your-face we're screwing with the rest of America because our president is like us, and we can get gay power. Something like that. I'll say it again, in my work years, there were a few gay people. I treated them in meetings exactly like anybody else. Everything was always fine. Now? They'll try to get you fired for not coming to their parties, for being a Christian online, for being or doing anything that isn't like them, not being their loving friend at work.... There's no defense for it. It's stupid. Enough with the perverted garbage.Most folks leave them alone. Now, the gays won't leave anybody alone, and won't tolerate anybody who is different than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 "Most people"? Maybe look at a public opinion poll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I suppose my using "most folks" in opposite to the claim about most accepting and supporting gay stuff.... that I'll back it up. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/09/half-of-americans-believe-gay-sex-is-a-sin/380567/ and in my life, it's most folks being about 90 percent. In America, it's, per this poll, 50%. But that is vague. They might support gay civil rights, but the behavior,... nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 The premise that you are born with or unable to change certain feelings, attitudes or desires does not necessarily make them right, normal nor acceptable to society. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think what is really sick, is the in your face thing. I mean, we watch Survivor on tv a lot. First they had some stupid, intolerable gay guy who walked around naked. Then they had a gay guy who was posturing about being gay all the time, whining and complaining. Idiot. He brings it on himself in his life. Now, they had couples. Yep. and they make a show of it far more than real married folks or real couples do. It's turned into the perversion survivor. All for show, in your face, and if you don't like it, we'll sue you, get you suspended/fired, ... a friends' son had a gay female cousin get mad at him - he didn't want to go to her party. She went online and really dissed him for being dangerous and hateful and etc etc etc etc etc...and harrassed his girlfriend. Yeah, they "just want to be accepted" for being human beings, too. They are a major part of the arrogant, belligerent, corrupt left. Just like the rioters in Ferguson. I can't wait for Chris to argue with me about it, so I can bring out my very excellent magnet analogy. It's freakin SCIENCE, MAN ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 why do watch Survivor if they have gay people on it that make you mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Not mad. Just a bit pukey unless I just change the channel to Animal Planet, ..they never show that garbage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Magnets.... Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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