GuNNerGatSKi Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 That tis the question. Playing off the biggest QB busts thread started a couple days ago, I would like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions on what makes great QBs so successful at the professional level. For me, it all comes down to possessing the requisite intangibles necessary to thrive in the NFL, such abstract qualities as having a clutch bone, not having a choke bone, having the insatiable drive to be the best, strong work ethic, unfaltering confidence, able to quickly forget and overcome mistakes and other characteristics great QBs possess. Compounding the problem of identifying these traits is the fact that one really does not know if they are present until thrown into live, NFL level action for a period of time. I think its possible to get a sense whether a prospect may possess such traits, but it is impossible to truely determine without a large sample of professional play. This is unlike weighing a prospects physical and mental characteristics such as having a strong arm, mobility, speed, being intelligent in general and when it comes to football knowledge. These things can be measured, tested, and quizzed. Intangibles cannot. And intangibles make a QB good to great to possibly among the best of all time. Look at Brady: a miniscule pip squeak of a man coming out of college with questionable physical attributes. Yet, he is loaded with intangible assets, so much so that he was able to overcome his physical deficit and become one of the best to ever play the game. So what do you guys think? What makes a good QB tick? What allows them to excel at the professional level where others who from the outside would appear to have a greater chance at success fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 "clutch" is something that for me doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 one that has the nads to audible against the "scripted" plays of the staff - (IE Kosar - Belichek) that would be old school and quite fun to watch if he were successful. I always thought the good QBs have some game time feel for the defensive scheme while the coordinators seem to be busy staging the next play - taking away a decent competitive edge of a capable QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ability to read defenses, spends a lot of time in game preparation, good leadership qualities, doesn't make bad throws into coverage, good clock management skills, confidence, takes charge in the huddle, I would sum it all up with Joe Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Karma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 A great QB is one that wins in the playoffs. When the pressure is the highest and the competition is the best. If a QB can't do that then he is not great IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 A great qb is the one that can excel at HIS job, while he has an oline that can block well, and wr's that can get OPEN, if need be, quickly.... and running backs that know how to be good running backs. Archie Manning was a GREAT qb that never had the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Composure. Intelligence. Talent. Confidence. A QB with all four of those things will do/have all of the things everyone has mentioned this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Take a guess-- Mystery Deflated balls, can get a flag if touched in pocket, tuck rule and can get any of his receiver's a flag?? Am I missing anything but he played for Michigan?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I'll have to say decisiveness. The ability to make the right decisions with the football quickly and consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Based upon history, Id say it's mostly great teams that make great QB's. You could be an amazing player......but until your team is great(or you make it great)....you aint great(by most standards).... And many of the great ones are considered such because of wins, not QB play alone.(which I think kinda sucks). And lots of great ones dont get their due because they landed on shit teams and had zero help.(which I also dont like)... So....winning makes you great,,,,,nothing else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Based upon history, Id say it's mostly great teams that make great QB's. You could be an amazing player......but until your team is great(or you make it great)....you aint great(by most standards).... And many of the great ones are considered such because of wins, not QB play alone.(which I think kinda sucks). And lots of great ones dont get their due because they landed on shit teams and had zero help.(which I also dont like)... So....winning makes you great,,,,,nothing else.... Uhmm no.. Teams go as they're QB goes.. take away Manning,Brady,Rodgers and even Roethlisberger.. none of those teams would ever sniff the playoffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Uhmm no.. Teams go as they're QB goes.. take away Manning,Brady,Rodgers and even Roethlisberger.. none of those teams would ever sniff the playoffs... The same could be said in the opposite. Put those guys on the Browns for the last 16 years and we would still suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Close your eyes. Think about Bernie Kosar. Ok, whatever the opposite of that is, THAT is a great QB. Bullshit and you know it,Ghoulie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuNNerGatSKi Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 All good replies, besides Ghoolies usual Kosar hate haha. I think this is a very important and interesting topic to discuss. Ultimately, we all have varying opinions and ideas of what makes a successful QB, though I think we can all agree on at least a handful of basic qualities: confidence, intelligence, adequate arm strength, poise, great decision making etc. And I think we can all agree, as Browns fans, that finding a QB who is good to great is far from easy and very much a crapshoot rather than an exact science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 1st-start with a great line-if you build it he will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Whatever it is that makes a great quarterback great just go the opposite of that for our choices since 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 You could be an amazing player......but until your team is great(or you make it great)....you aint great(by most standards).... So....winning makes you great,,,,,nothing else.... Uhmm no.. Teams go as they're QB goes.. take away Manning,Brady,Rodgers and even Roethlisberger.. none of those teams would ever sniff the playoffs... I pretty clearly said "or you make it great".....bottom line, all the great QB's you listed won something....which is my point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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