DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2S5bP5Ctdo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 AR10s (ARs chambered in 7.62x51/.308) have a pretty bad track record for reliability. If anyone could make them run right, it would be Daniel Defense. I am pretty fond of 7.62 NATO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 AR10s (ARs chambered in 7.62x51/.308) have a pretty bad track record for reliability. If anyone could make them run right, it would be Daniel Defense. I am pretty fond of 7.62 NATO. Yep. They have been testing it for quite awhile. Won't be cheap, but I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't mind asking a dumb question.... why 7.62 over 5.56?I swear I saw a comparison, and the 5.56 bullet was a lot bigger than the 7.62... which left me confused as hell. I'm going to get an AR sometime.........now that I found out that my supplemental insurance to medicare that starts in Dec, will pay 100% for a new artificial knee. When I can slow down long enough ...I don't know. (and we'll pay about 600 bucks less a month !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 The round on the right is 7.62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Here is something I'm very interested in: American made ak-47s http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/30/news/companies/kalashnikov-usa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 .556 does the job just fine but I am just more fond of the bigger round. I use my shooting course guns for hunting as well. Until recently, you couldn't legally hunt deer with .556 (.223) in WV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Here is something I'm very interested in: American made ak-47s http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/30/news/companies/kalashnikov-usa/ Here is the problem, Kalashnikov is not a licensed trademark. So the actual company that produced Russian AKS for years is called Kalashnikov Concern and is out of Russia. Kalashnikov USA is some random guy making U.S. made AKs. As a general rule, U.S. made AKs are pretty low quality because they try to keep the price down. You don't get chrome lined bores and military quality barrels. You get barrels made by Green Mountain Barrels who use subpar metals and just nitride the bore. They could end up being a quality product but I wouldn't hold my breath. If I was buying an American made AK, I would look into Definitive Arms or DDI. They tend to use the foreign barrels and the rest are American made parts (receivers, trunnions, trigger parts, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't mind asking a dumb question.... why 7.62 over 5.56?I swear I saw a comparison, and the 5.56 bullet was a lot bigger than the 7.62... which left me confused as hell. I'm going to get an AR sometime.........now that I found out that my supplemental insurance to medicare that starts in Dec, will pay 100% for a new artificial knee. When I can slow down long enough ...I don't know. (and we'll pay about 600 bucks less a month !) 7.62 much bigger. It is the same round fired by M-60 Machine gun, the old M14, etc. The milspec 5.56 tumbled and did severe damage to whom ever it hit however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Here is the problem, Kalashnikov is not a licensed trademark. So the actual company that produced Russian AKS for years is called Kalashnikov Concern and is out of Russia. Kalashnikov USA is some random guy making U.S. made AKs. As a general rule, U.S. made AKs are pretty low quality because they try to keep the price down. You don't get chrome lined bores and military quality barrels. You get barrels made by Green Mountain Barrels who use subpar metals and just nitride the bore. They could end up being a quality product but I wouldn't hold my breath. If I was buying an American made AK, I would look into Definitive Arms or DDI. They tend to use the foreign barrels and the rest are American made parts (receivers, trunnions, trigger parts, etc.). To be fair Russian and Chinese made ak-47's aren't exactly known for their top notch materials are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 To be fair Russian and Chinese made ak-47's aren't exactly known for their top notch materials are they? They build the best AKs in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I wouldn't buy a car from them but AKs yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Okay, what I saw was a picture with a misprint - list out of order. I was like "what the...hell?" Glad I didn't ask that at a local gun shop. If I ever was to go hunt elk in Montana etc... I'd go for the 7.62. Hopefully, the 5.56 doesn't rattle peoples' windows. we have 28 acres... and there's no elk in Ohio. Although.... the big wild boar....maybe the 7.62 would be a better choice. Right now, I'm good with hunting the stupid groundhogs all over the place. and the neighbors built their stupid home back there and cut off one of my safe angles. I go out there, and I'm living Caddyshack, where he has the gopher laughing at him.... dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm not sure but I don't think 5.56 or 7.62 is legal for hunting in ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm not sure but I don't think 5.56 or 7.62 is legal for hunting in ohio. Yeah I thought you guys were stuck with rifled slugs due to everything being flat in the northern part of the state. I could be completely off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Okay, what I saw was a picture with a misprint - list out of order. I was like "what the...hell?" Glad I didn't ask that at a local gun shop. If I ever was to go hunt elk in Montana etc... I'd go for the 7.62. Hopefully, the 5.56 doesn't rattle peoples' windows. we have 28 acres... and there's no elk in Ohio. Although.... the big wild boar....maybe the 7.62 would be a better choice. Right now, I'm good with hunting the stupid groundhogs all over the place. and the neighbors built their stupid home back there and cut off one of my safe angles. I go out there, and I'm living Caddyshack, where he has the gopher laughing at him.... dammit. 5.56 would be more than enough for wild boar. I have bagged quite a few on private property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yeah I thought you guys were stuck with rifled slugs due to everything being flat in the northern part of the state. I could be completely off. They just started allowing .45 this past year. That's big enough to take down anything in ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Logic, did you eat the wild boar? I've always wondered about that. ham....bacon......pork roast, pork ribs....bbq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm not sure but I don't think 5.56 or 7.62 is legal for hunting in ohio. They are not legal in Ohio. These are allowed for deer hunting Straight-walled cartridge rifles in the following calibers: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .450 Marlin, .454 Casull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson.Shotguns and straight-walled cartridge rifles can be loaded with no more than three shells in the chamber and magazine combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Anybody notice that the targets looked like KKK insignias? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Logic, did you eat the wild boar? I've always wondered about that. ham....bacon......pork roast, pork ribs....bbq You have to marinate it or else it is extremely gamey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Despite it being gimmicky as hell, I'm really interested in the CMMG mutant. 7.62x39 (ak round) in an AR platform. Haven't shot one yet but it would be an awesome hog gun (wild boar). Appears to have the reliability of an AK with the modularity of our beloved AR's. Agreed with Logic that the AR-10's are plagued with reliability issues, and if I'm firing long range shots with the .308/7.62x51 then I'm rolling the bolt first or pulling out the 300 win mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm thinking of buying a rock island mk 47 .22 just to plink shit with. Anyone ever play with one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm thinking of buying a rock island mk 47 .22 just to plink shit with. Anyone ever play with one? I haven't shot the mk47 but I trust Rock Island products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 149 at rural king. Looks sharp patterned after an ak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 logic - why do you say Green Mountain barrels are cheap? I've shot them in muzzleloaders and in that application they are top notch. Also, I have shot WASRs, semi Auto AKs brought in in the 1980s and pre clinton ban 90s, and now a friends DDI "AK" and as far as accuracy the DDI outshoots everything else, accuracy wise. Of course, in the same caliber I have found that the Romanian versions of SKSs were much more accurate than the com-block aks, and a lot less expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 another dumb question... I figure I'd want the 7.62 for hunting long distance game, but for wild boar, or bear, under 200 yrds whatever, if I ever did hunt those, would a 5.56 do the job? I really have to get myself one. I need a coyote blaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 You can't hunt with those in ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 well, for the most part, we don't have wild boar anyways. I figure you'd have to go to Arkansas, etc. There are black bear in Ohio, but I don't think bear would taste good. I want to try alligator. And rattlesnake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 logic - why do you say Green Mountain barrels are cheap? I've shot them in muzzleloaders and in that application they are top notch. Also, I have shot WASRs, semi Auto AKs brought in in the 1980s and pre clinton ban 90s, and now a friends DDI "AK" and as far as accuracy the DDI outshoots everything else, accuracy wise. Of course, in the same caliber I have found that the Romanian versions of SKSs were much more accurate than the com-block aks, and a lot less expensive. The Green Mountain barrels are fine for muzzleloaders but are no good when you put a lot of rounds down them with AKs. I have yet to shoot a DDI so they may be fine. American AKs just have an earned bad reputation. I fire a large volume of rounds a year and so having a nice chromelined bore is my preference. Also, when shooting AKs, I don't expect anything better than 3-4 inch groups. They are not marksman rifles. They give you good enough accuracy and fantastic reliability. WASRs are a mixed bag. You can have a decent one or a real turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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