browns52 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Dawson is probably wishing he had never left. not really, at least he played in a superbowl...his career is just about done anyway and if he was still here, he never would have stepped foot on a superbowl turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Florio calling Thomas out on a secretive deal that never transpired? I call bullshit on Florio....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 His tweet doesn't make much sense. Sounds like Thomas found out about the trade after the fact. Still a whole bunch of nothing. @RapSheet: And when Joe Thomas learned he was nearly traded to #Broncos, his agents smartly asked for guaranteed $ in ’16 and ’17 to remain in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 agents also try to make the best deals possible, he may not have been even aware of what his agent was trying to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I suspect this had more to do with his agents negotiating for him with carte blanche powers, i.e. did not have to keep him fully informed, just look out for his best interest. That is not unusual at all. LOL-Just now saw your response above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Right....I see speculation on 2 separate issues here.... 1) Did he "ask" to be traded??....In the middle of the season?....I dont believe that for a minute...... 2) Did he demand guaranteed money?......how?.....he's under contract, if the Browns want to trade him, then they trade him(and his contract). He should have no say. And if he did have say, then demanded higher dollars and guarantees, isnt it possible he was just making things hard to accomplish.... I mean.....if he wanted out so bad.....then WHY make it hard for Denver to agree.....makes no sense at all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I'd believe anything really concerning this football team. With homeless guy drafting and textgate, are you really shocked? If he wants out so what. Lebron left and most got over it. This team stinks and he's tired of the bullshit and losing. I hope wins a super bowl before he retires because he's a hard worker and seems like a good human being. How would you like to be the best tackle in the league, on a team that can't fucking sniff the postseason? Please tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 It's bullshit. The national media knows next to zero about the Browns, and could care less about the Browns. It's now fashionable to prop up the favorites/front runners. There is no "underdog" mentality anymore. It's sickening. The national media likes to debate if guys like Peyton Manning, LeBron James, Phil Mickelson are "winners." They go as far as stating Tom Coughlin isn't a good coach, stuff like that. Don't buy into these national media "sources," they don't know nearly as much as the local folks who cover the team(s) on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I'd believe anything really concerning this football team. With homeless guy drafting and textgate, are you really shocked? If he wants out so what. Lebron left and most got over it. This team stinks and he's tired of the bullshit and losing. I hope wins a super bowl before he retires because he's a hard worker and seems like a good human being. How would you like to be the best tackle in the league, on a team that can't fucking sniff the postseason? Please tell me. If this is the case....then why didnt he agree to go?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 If this is the case....then why didnt he agree to go?..... Lol well if you believe it was the last two years of guaranteed money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I dont get it I guess..... He wants to leave?...and play for a winner?.....but when he gets his wish, he demands more?....making the deal null?.... OK..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I dont get it I guess..... He wants to leave?...and play for a winner?.....but when he gets his wish, he demands more?....making the deal null?.... OK..... You got a point. Who do we call bullshit on again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Well....if its me......Joe Thomas seems to have impeccable character and hes our guy..... So, Id stand by him before I stood with Florio or Rappaport..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 People thought Jim Thome had character to remember his i want stay in clecveland speeches then he bolted maybe thomas is just like thome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 OK.....so since Jim Thome decided to leave, that means Joe Thomas is a low character guy?...... Thats some brilliant logic right there...... maybe he's like anybody.....and everybody.....Joe Charboneau drank beer thru his nose, does that mean Thomas does too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Pitiful - some people will go to such goofy lengths to get attention as would be sportswriters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I guess I'm different. I believe it. Joe's a competitor and any competitor worth his weight wants to win, and if that trait isn't deeply rooted in Joe, then we have another problem to add to the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 @MaryKayCabot: Re:@RapSheet report Joe Thomas asked #Browns to explore trade, been told not true, he didn't want to leave and true he would've been crushed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 A skill player we released is making a name for himself in New England right now. Ghoolie, what's your point here? Joe Thomas has been on the team for eight years, dude. At this point how is he relevant to the universally horrible drafts we've had through at least three front offices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 No one denies skill position players arent important. Everyone knows the QB position is what controls a teams fate. The fact remains, LT is just as important as DT, DE, LB, CB, WR, RB, TE. In 2006 our QBs were destroyed. LT was a huge position of need for us. A surefire LT was there for ys in the draft. We took him and hes been one of the best in the league since. Out of all the botched picks and players who are out of the league since, why do you choose to ride JT? Hes been our best player since we drafted him. Pick someone else to pin your frustrations on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I just wasted 2 minutes of life that I will never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Seriously. There is nothing we have to complain about. I heard it here over and over and over............. "YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A SOLID LEFT TACKLE............... YOU'VE GOT TO. Shit man, I am tickled out of my own pussy watching Joe Thomas go to the fucking hall of fame. Who needs skill players? Who needs a QB? Just let Joe Thomas block us to the Superbowl. Fuck, I think Pettine is holding him back. We need to let him run the ball, and pass, and kick and go out for passes. :YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A SOLID LEFT TAKCLE.............. YO'VE GOT TO. And know, 8 years after it being too late they want to consider trading his useless ass, when he has no value. Isn't it interesting that the skill players we release never make it on other teams. BUT BUT BUT............ the offensive linemen we release always seem to do just fine elsewhere. I am telling you, You've got to have that Left Tackle position solidified, that is the building block for the team. We just need 8 more years of using high draft picks to get more offensive linemen, while continuing to avoid the most desirable QBs, WR and RBS. Hey, it's worked so far. (Y) Great insight. Since 2007 we've had ten first round picks, about two of which have lived up to expectations (including Mack, another OL), and yet you complain about Joe Thomas? Where's the complaining about Weeden, Mingo, Taylor, Trent fucking Richardson? Brady Quinn anyone? It isn't that the franchise has just completely ignored skill positions, it just hasn't been successful, where it has on OL picks. I know you have some problem with having a good tackle, I'm just not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I agree with the OP, 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I agree with the OP, 100% A ringing endorsement. Might as well be PoG proclaiming our next draft pick will be 'as good as trent richardson' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 And know, 8 years after it being too late they want to consider trading his useless ass, when he has no value. (Y) This sentence is so full of grammatical errors that it makes it impossible to take your post seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 This sentence is so full of grammatical errors that it makes it impossible to take your post seriously. )?( really? what was incorrect? but who cares what anyone says now that the 'crying games' have started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 )?( really? what was incorrect? [/b] And know, 8 years after it being too late they want to consider trading his useless ass, when he has no value. (Y) Shouldn't start a sentence with "and", but ignoring that he used "know" when anyone with half a brain would know it should be "and now" plus he put commas in poor places. It should say..... "And now, 8 years after it being too late, they want to consider trading his useless ass when he has no value." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I always will. The Browns use to have a poor oline. Not anymore. They used to have major weaknesses in personnel on the defense.... not anymore. They still have a lack of dangerous weapons at WR, outside of Barnidge at TE... and little Travis. A couple of AJ Green type wr's... and the Browns offense will be unstoppable. Okay, so it's a defensive scheme that is too complicated to work often... and they run on first down nearly all the time, because they don't have the wr's to fit. So very close, yet so far away still. The Browns wll win anyways. 3 rivers scum suckers are going to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I always will. The Browns use to have a poor oline. Not anymore. They used to have major weaknesses in personnel on the defense.... not anymore. They still have a lack of dangerous weapons at WR, outside of Barnidge at TE... and little Travis. A couple of AJ Green type wr's... and the Browns offense will be unstoppable. Okay, so it's a defensive scheme that is too complicated to work often... and they run on first down nearly all the time, because they don't have the wr's to fit. So very close, yet so far away still. The Browns wll win anyways. 3 rivers scum suckers are going to lose. :lol: Riiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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