DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 English, really? http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12/09/petition-seeks-to-ban-donald-trump-from-uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I posted this on one of the other threads the other day. Yes, really. He won't be banned, of course, but it's a legitimate question. Other speakers have been banned for similar things. Amusingly, I expect this to be (briefly) debated in the house, as is customary when a petition gets over 100k signatures. I don't see this one slowing down any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm guessing you can find a common thread among that list of signatures. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm guessing you can find a common thread among that list of signatures. WSS A brain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 He got stripped of an honorary doctorate from a scottish university also. In response, he says the UK should be thanking him for building a golf course in scotland (which destroyed a valuable environmental habitat) - because presumably scotland was nothing in the gold world before he came along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 A brain? Yes, but covered by a turban or burka. But if you think it's a mark of intelligence to sign a petition to keep someone like Donald Trump out of your country... I'm guessing a British version of the blaze is not far away. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 And it's ironic, since you seem to blame the United States, that you take out your anger on Donald Trump and not the administration over the last 6 years or 14 or 22... Perhaps the Nobel people could strip President Obama of his Peace Prize? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 What do I blame the US for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 What do I blame the US for? War in the Middle East? The refugee problem? Isis? Have I misunderstood you? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 War in the Middle East? The refugee problem? Isis? Have I misunderstood you? WSS OK, with you now. Yes I blame the US, but not exclusively. We have had as much involvement as the US and are as much to blame. I'm not taking anger out at Trump - I don't tend to get angry outside of sports - it's more sheer bewilderment that he thinks there are good things to say, and that people are actually agreeing with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 War in the Middle East? The refugee problem? Isis? Have I misunderstood you? WSS I'm curious, do you believe the US bears no responsibility for any of these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Stuart The Brits are appeasing idiots from the govt on down. As another idiot signs that petition another muslims laughs. Meanwhile the police cant even wear uniforms in their own police cars. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3352406/Scotland-Yard-mocks-Trump-s-claims-London-police-terrified-Muslim-areas-officers-claim-tycoon-RIGHT.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Wait, I thought it was only muslims signing that petition? Now they're laughing at people signing the petition? Come on guys, at least be consistent in this. I'd be intrigued to hear which areas of london specifically are no go zones. In fact, if you come up with any, I might (if it's not hours away) go there and take a picture of it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Well, some Brits get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 FWIW, Luton isn't London, however much it claims to be. Luton is what you'd politely call a 'multicultural' town, with lots of people from all over the world. It's a bit of a shit hole generally, but I have never felt unsafe there. I grew up about 20 miles from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm curious, do you believe the US bears no responsibility for any of these things? I don't believe that at all. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Wait, I thought it was only muslims signing that petition? Now they're laughing at people signing the petition? Come on guys, at least be consistent in this. I'd be intrigued to hear which areas of london specifically are no go zones. In fact, if you come up with any, I might (if it's not hours away) go there and take a picture of it for you. Only? Come on woody. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 oth, Carter banned immigration of Iranians back in the day. I think liberals agreed with that. But let a non-liberal knee jerk about banning the immigration of Muslims, well, that's "offensive". We can't let the whole world come here to live - there isn't room. Control it, and freaking VET every single one. I still say, all this wailing over what Trump said, that was dumb, and that German Christian family was refused to be allowed to stay in the U.S., and the obamao regime fought and fought to make them go back to Germany. I mean, seriously? http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 By the way, I heard a couple of Muslim leaders of groups... talk about how they agreed with Trump on that. They said we can't let the threat of violence just come here along with all those who truly wish to live here.. my paraphrasing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 What would anyone guess is the percentage of tainted and dangerous food by the time that a complete recall is ordered? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Saying something offensive can get you banned from a westernized country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 War in the Middle East? The refugee problem? Isis? Have I misunderstood you? WSS you did read the article posted by logic I believe, that detailed how Isis was on the U.S payroll when the called themselves the Sons of Iraq....you did read that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 you did read the article posted by logic I believe, that detailed how Isis was on the U.S payroll when the called themselves the Sons of Iraq....you did read that right? Actually I was answering a question from Chris. It has nothing to do with any article. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Every time you see a sign like this don't be nonchalant toward or poo poo it as silly rhetoric. They mean it. Of the few Islamic leaders that express outrage, it is most likely disingenuous. It is fake outrage, and you simpletons are buying it. Lying is permitted in Islam, and Muslims are staunch believers in their faith. Put those two together. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 By the way, I heard a couple of Muslim leaders of groups... talk about how they agreed with Trump on that. They said we can't let the threat of violence just come here along with all those who truly wish to live here.. my paraphrasing.... Stuart I sincerely want this to believe this. But words aren't enough. The Muslim opposition to terrorism should be as fierce as the proponents of terrorism itself...kinda like Newtons third law of physics: For every force there is a reaction force that is equal in size and opposite in direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Saying something offensive can get you banned from a westernized country? Not offensive. Plenty of people say offensive things. It's about specifically inciting hatred based on an 'protected attribute' such as race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. The same things you can't be fired for, basically. Pamela Geller got barred from entering the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 It will never happen, what would they do if by some chance Trump won the presidency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I am assuming pamela Geller is Jewish? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Not offensive. Plenty of people say offensive things. It's about specifically inciting hatred based on an 'protected attribute' such as race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. The same things you can't be fired for, basically. Pamela Geller got barred from entering the UK. So for being offensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 There a 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Choosing just 2% from the data below of Muslims believing that terrorism could be justified often, we come up with 320,000,000 million camel fuckers that believe terrorism is justified often....the population of the U.S. Did that help you liberal simpletons put things into perspective? (36 vs 64) 64% of Muslims in France believed it could never be justified, 19% believed it could be justified rarely, 10% sometimes, and 6% thought it could be justified often. (30 vs 70) 70% of Muslims in Britain believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 12% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often. (17 vs 83) 83% of Muslims in Germany believed it could never be justified, 6% believed it could be justified rarely, 6% sometimes, and 1% thought it could be justified often. (31 vs 69) 69% of Muslims in Spain believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 10% sometimes, and 6% thought it could be justified often. In mainly Muslim countries: (55 vs 45) 45% of Muslims in Egypt believed it could never be justified, 25% believed it could be justified rarely, 20% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often. (39 vs 61) 61% of Muslims in Turkey believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 14% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often. (57 vs 43) 43% of Muslims in Jordan believed it could never be justified, 28% believed it could be justified rarely, 24% sometimes, and 5% thought it could be justified often. (72 vs 28) 28% of Muslims in Nigeria believed it could never be justified, 23% believed it could be justified rarely, 38% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often. (31 vs 69) 69% of Muslims in Pakistan believed it could never be justified, 8% believed it could be justified rarely, 7% sometimes, and 7% thought it could be justified often. (29 vs 71) 71% of Muslims in Indonesia believed it could never be justified, 18% believed it could be justified rarely, 8% sometimes, and 2% thought it could be justified often. John Esposito, using poll data from Gallup, wrote in 2008 that Muslims and Americans were equally likely to reject violence against civilians. He also found that those Muslims who support violence against civilians are no more religious than Muslims who do not.[28] A 2010 Zogby poll reported that 69% of American Muslims supported stronger laws to fight terrorism.[29] A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified. 26% of Muslims in Bangladesh believe attacks are either somewhat justified or often justified, 18% in Malaysia, 7% in Iraq, 15% in Jordan, 29% in Egypt, 39% in Afghanistan and 40% in the Palestinian territories.[30][31][32] The survey did not include some Muslim nations, such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Yemen, Syria, and Libya, but did include densely populated Muslim countries such as Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria and Indonesia.[33] According to a 2007 poll conducted by the PolicyExchange think tank in Britain, nearly 60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16- to 24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those over 55. Also, 36%[34] of 16- to 24-year-olds British Muslims believed that those converting to another religion should be executed. Less than a fifth of those over 55 think so.[35] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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