Zombo Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/12/22/how-the-cleveland-browns-could-end-up-with-2-first-round-picks-in-2016-nfl-draft/#.VnoIptjlnXt.twitter CLEVELAND (92.3 The Fan) – The Tennessee Titans have the inside edge at landing the No. 1 pick in the 2016 NFL Draft over the Browns, but fear not Cleveland. By ending up with the No. 2 overall pick, the Browns could ultimately win by essentially holding a pair of first-round draft picks. The Browns’ 28-14 week 2 win over Tennessee does not factor into the tie-breaking scenario. The reason is simple: preventing teams from tanking games head-to-head to land a better pick. The No. 1 tie breaker is strength of schedule followed by conferenceand divisional tie breakers. Entering this week, the Titans’ collective strength of schedule is weaker than the Browns – .490 for Tennessee and .520 for Cleveland. With the Browns facing a pair of 9-5 teams in Kansas City and Pittsburgh while the Titans finish against the 7-7 Texans and 6-8 Colts, the S.O.S. math is not likely to change significantly in the Browns’ favor. New England has surrendered it’s 2016 first-round selection as part of the “deflategate” punishment handed down by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in addition to a 2017 fourth round pick and $1 million fine. Should the 2 teams tie and Tennessee end up with No. 1, NFL rules stipulate that the teams alternate top picks round to round meaning the Browns would pick first in round 2. With only 31 selections being made in round 1 next April, the Browns would own the 32nd overall selection giving them 2 of the first 32 picks for the third straight year and the fourth time in 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 We'll still fuck them up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Well... we got that going for us... And note to the twitterer... the SOS "math" is locked in at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I have no faith that Ray Farmer has any clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 SUPERBOWL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 This means if ray farmer is drafting he will take a Qb out of a division 3 school and rd two will draft dwayne bowes 5ft 8 cousin to play wr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Our next great WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 LOL 69. As a send off gift to Farmer, Jimmy could have Farmer Text Titians sidelines to get out of our way to Bosa or is that Treadwell we see their^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I was thinking about this the other day, and I agree...we just about have two first rounders, and that gives me hope for plugging some of the holes in our roster. Our team is basically a talent desert, and you can pick virtually any position group and make a valid argument as to why we need to upgrade it. The one thing I DON'T want is a first round QB. I want Johnny. I don't want to trade him after we did all the development. Yes, it's a gamble, and no...the development hasn't been "other worldly", but he's made progress. We need a lot of things to go right, and it's about damn time we make it happen. Stick with Manziel and Gordon. Add other pieces, lose O'Neil, keep Pettine, and tell Farmer to piss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 If he's there when we draft, it'd be hard to pass on Bosa. If the Titans take him (because they don't need a QB) then there's nobody. Hopefully we could trade back, but I don't see who with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I know, it would be very hard. And I think once the combine madness starts, the fervor surrounding Bosa will approach epic levels. I don't know him that well, but he appears to be a guy that will have off the charts measurables. So let's say we get Bosa, as unrealistic as it might be considering who is drafting in front of us. Who do we get for our second pick? I haven't looked at that "second tier" level of WR's. You guys checked them out? I think that's what I want. I'm sick of passing on players like Funchess, Dorial Green Beckam, Allen Robinson, and a host of others. So who looks good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 If he's there when we draft, it'd be hard to pass on Bosa. If the Titans take him (because they don't need a QB) then there's nobody. Hopefully we could trade back, but I don't see who with."then there's nobody" ?There's ALWAYS somebody. The good teams figure out who they are then drafts them. The bad teams look at 300 college players and say....."there's nobody". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yeah, there's several guys that would make a big impact if Bosa is gone. Jalen Ramsey, Laquon Treadwell (a bit of a stretch at our pick, but we need him), that linebacker from Notre Dame named Jaylen something. I'm REALLY starting to like that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 "then there's nobody" ? There's ALWAYS somebody. The good teams figure out who they are then drafts them. The bad teams look at 300 college players and say....."there's nobody". OK, nobody that represents a good meeting of value and ability and need. Sure, we could take laremy tunsil, but we have a HOF calibre left tackle and a pro-bowl calibre right tackle. We could take Jaylen Smith, but there's a lot of very good line backing prospects coming out this year, there's no rush to grab one just because we're on the clock. Jalon Ramsay if we don't resign Gipson is probably the top candidate, but do we draft a safety at #2 overall? Treadwell is a reach there and depending on Gordon is a hell of a luxury pick, considering Gordon is pro-bowl talent, and Benjamin's just been voted to almost pro-bowl. BPA is one of the tackles. But that would be stupid (although with the potential side benefit of Ghoolie getting so upset he abandons football and this board forever). So Bosa, or...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 If he's there when we draft, it'd be hard to pass on Bosa. If the Titans take him (because they don't need a QB) then there's nobody. Hopefully we could trade back, but I don't see who with. A team desperate to get a QB? I don't know if Paxton Lynch would garner that type of buzz but if a team is in dire enough need of a QB of the future then they will pony up the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 A team desperate to get a QB? I don't know if Paxton Lynch would garner that type of buzz but if a team is in dire enough need of a QB of the future then they will pony up the picks. I'm unsure if they would for Lynch. SF and the Rams *might* get in to a bidding war, but it's unlikely I think. Same story with all the QBs. So many projects, no day one starters, it's not worth jumping up to grab a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 OK, nobody that represents a good meeting of value and ability and need. Sure, we could take laremy tunsil, but we have a HOF calibre left tackle and a pro-bowl calibre right tackle. We could take Jaylen Smith, but there's a lot of very good line backing prospects coming out this year, there's no rush to grab one just because we're on the clock. Jalon Ramsay if we don't resign Gipson is probably the top candidate, but do we draft a safety at #2 overall? Treadwell is a reach there and depending on Gordon is a hell of a luxury pick, considering Gordon is pro-bowl talent, and Benjamin's just been voted to almost pro-bowl. BPA is one of the tackles. But that would be stupid (although with the potential side benefit of Ghoolie getting so upset he abandons football and this board forever). So Bosa, or...? Dude ! Take the MOST TALENTED PLAYER AVAILABLE regardless of position and quit "down sizing" season after season after season. This team needs an influx of elite players. Not multiple 3rd 4th and 5ths next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Dude ! Take the MOST TALENTED PLAYER AVAILABLE regardless of position and quit "down sizing" season after season after season. This team needs an influx of elite players. Not multiple 3rd 4th and 5ths next year. Totally agree, also forget even thinking what's a need. Everything is a need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 If he's there when we draft, it'd be hard to pass on Bosa. If the Titans take him (because they don't need a QB) then there's nobody. Hopefully we could trade back, but I don't see who with.There's the rub. Since the Tits don't need a QB, I'm inclined to think that another team(s) would be willing to trade up for the #1 overall pick. That is of course, whoever is running the show for the Titans is open for a trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 There's the rub. Since the Tits don't need a QB, I'm inclined to think that another team(s) would be willing to trade up for the #1 overall pick. That is of course, whoever is running the show for the Titans is open for a trade down. Without doubt they would be. Pick up an extra 2 and a first rounder next year, to move down maybe 5 places, and still get an impact guy because you already have your franchise QB? No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Per CBS Sports, the following are the #2 and #32 best prospects in the draft: #2 Laremy Tunsil OT Ole Miss #32 Michael Thomas WR Ohio St. Per Draft Tek it is: #2 Vernon Hargreaves CB Florida #32 Adolphus Washington DT Ohio St. Per Sports Illustrated : #2 Jalen Ramsey CB Florida St. #32 Tony Conner S Ole Miss Per Bleacher Report: #2 Joey Bosa DE Ohio St. #32 Josh Doctson WR TCU Sports Insider: #2 Bosa #32 Kendall Fuller CB Va. Tech Ourlads: #2 Ronnie Stanley OT Notre Dame #32 Jarren Reed DT Alabama Draft Geek: #2 Bosa #32 Corey Coleman WR Baylor So, which would be your preference? Mine highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Bosa, and no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Hopefully we could trade back, but I don't see who with. No no no no and please no. That philosophy has totally killed us in recent history, and I don't want a repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 No no no no and please no. That philosophy has totally killed us in recent history, and I don't want a repeat. No, the picks have killed us, not the trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 No, the picks have killed us, not the trades. +1 on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Our next great WR. Did you see that lil' dude jump in Episode II? Since the Tits don't need a QB, I'm inclined to think that another team(s) would be willing to trade up for the #1 overall pick. As long as "another team" does not include us... The only thing worse than our player judgement in Round One is our ability to judge other teams' draft intents... Let's just see who falls to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Did you see that lil' dude jump in Episode II? As long as "another team" does not include us... The only thing worse than our player judgement in Round One is our ability to judge other teams' draft intents... Let's just see who falls to us. Why would not the Tits just put Bosa on their radar? He is nearly the consensus pick by the pundits......and god knows they need the defense. I mean you talk about "generational QBs".....but he could be considered a possible generational defender. Fair to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Anyone else find it a little telling that the two top players last draft were QB's who are currently 3-11 and 6-8 and only one of those had two stellar 6'5" receivers to start the season with? And the year prior's top QB is 5-9 this season so far. And those were consistent "can't miss" NFL QB's unlike the ones available this year. See anything telling in this in regards to the Browns going on another fishing expedition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Whoa, Ag... Are you saying there were no doubts about Winston or Mariotta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 They met the "eye" test and most had them picked 1-2 all last year. They are good enough to meet your definition of a take as you described in the other thread. And they were way ahead of anyone coming out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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