Erie Dawg Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 From USA Today White House: Obama gun actions coming 'soon' http://usat.ly/1OD50R1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Of course, it's getting harder to keep the sheep herded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I have no problem keeping the sheep herded. I live on a cul da sac, and EVERYONE is packing For the stoolers fans a "cul da sac" is a street with only 1 inlet/outlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 For someone that probably hates scary guns I guess this is funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 It's funny to me, at least, as is your overblown reaction to the story; hence, the humorous chicken little picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Obama must own stock in gun companies. The only thing his gun talk does is sell more guns and prevent zero crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 It's funny to me, at least, as is your overblown reaction to the story; hence, the humorous chicken little picture. Weird, I didn't know I had a reaction? Did you read the article? NO you didn't did you... We will know more about the his outlined measures next week after the SOTU address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 If Obama manages to do anything that significantly reduces gun violence it would be the single biggest legacy from his term in office, above and beyond anything like Obamacare or the economy or the Iran deal or whatever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 If Obama manages to do anything that significantly reduces gun violence it would be the single biggest legacy from his term in office, above and beyond anything like Obamacare or the economy or the Iran deal or whatever else. In that it would cement the idea that the president can override the Bill of Rights with the stroke of a pen you are certainly correct. I don't think anyone actually believes that this action will slow down gun violence by even a fraction of 1%. Not even you and Woodrow. Symbolism, campaign stunt for Hillary, thin end of the wedge or just a shot across the bow of the right. But never meant to help anything. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 In that it would cement the idea that the president can override the Bill of Rights with the stroke of a pen you are certainly correct. I don't think anyone actually believes that this action will slow down gun violence by even a fraction of 1%. Not even you and Woodrow. Symbolism, campaign stunt for Hillary, thin end of the wedge or just a shot across the bow of the right. But never meant to help anything. WSS What I meant was if he could find a way to do it with all parties agreeing. No executive orders, get the NRA on board, no pointless 'gun free zones' or anything like that, but a tangible reduction in gun violence/deaths that all parties can agree on and celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 What I meant was if he could find a way to do it with all parties agreeing. No executive orders, get the NRA on board, no pointless 'gun free zones' or anything like that, but a tangible reduction in gun violence/deaths that all parties can agree on and celebrate. Yes I suppose it would. I personally couldn't even imagine a blueprint for that plan. We would also celebrate if Sashi takes the Cleveland Browns to the Superbowl next year, which is much more likely. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yes I suppose it would. I personally couldn't even imagine a blueprint for that plan. We would also celebrate if Sashi takes the Cleveland Browns to the Superbowl next year, which is much more likely. WSS That was my point, basically. The article says it would be 'the defining moment of his last year' or something; if he manages it, it would be the defining moment of his presidency, and probably of the century in social policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Why have a House and Senate when we can have a president who makes himself a king? The executive branch of government was not meant to be the law making part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 That was my point, basically. The article says it would be 'the defining moment of his last year' or something; if he manages it, it would be the defining moment of his presidency, and probably of the century in social policy.Frankly I wouldn't think that a reduction in gun violence is the number one priority toward making the United States of America a utopia.WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 That being said it would be a significant achievement if it were possible. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Frankly I wouldn't think that a reduction in gun violence is the number one priority toward making the United States of America a utopia. WSS Many things are wrong with the country. To be clear, many things are right, but in a lot of aspects it's lagging behind 21st century civilisations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 If Obama manages to do anything that significantly reduces gun violence it would be the single biggest legacy from his term in office, above and beyond anything like Obamacare or the economy or the Iran deal or whatever else. Wait,Who even said those things were above and beyond. Obama care, oh god yeah can't live without it. Economy? Yeah that's doing awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 That being said it would be a significant achievement if it were possible. WSS It's not impossible by no means, they are thinking ahead and getting the ball rolling for hitlery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 If guns kill people why isn't Obummoa dead? He spends every day constantly surrounded by guns. Why hasn't a gun shot him yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 The people around him with guns have had thorough background evaluations, character evaluations, and psychiatric evaluations. Not saying we should go that far for the everyday gun owner like myself, but just answering your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 The people around him with guns have had thorough background evaluations, character evaluations, and psychiatric evaluations. Not saying we should go that far for the everyday gun owner like myself, but just answering your question. Oh.... So guns just don't go off randomly and shoot people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 The people around him with guns have had thorough background evaluations, character evaluations, and psychiatric evaluations. Not saying we should go that far for the everyday gun owner like myself, but just answering your question. You wouldn't advocate that? Why not? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 You wouldn't advocate that? Why not? WSS Time, money and effort are probably the only obstacles to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 You wouldn't advocate that? Why not? WSS I don't think that we should screen ordinary people on the same level that we screen the secret service. I'm just saying people with anarchist or psychopathic tendencies aren't carrying guns around the president - but they can go buy a gun as long as they have no felonies and shoot up a shopping mall. Or take over a federal building in Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Time, money and effort are probably the only obstacles to that. Too much bother? I guess the problem isn't as urgent as advertised. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I don't think that we should screen ordinary people on the same level that we screen the secret service. I'm just saying people with anarchist or psychopathic tendencies aren't carrying guns around the president - but they can go buy a gun as long as they have no felonies and shoot up a shopping mall. Or take over a federal building in Oregon. You might have a point. I guess all those murders in the slums of Chicago are committed by anti-government redneck militia members. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Too much bother? I guess the problem isn't as urgent as advertised. WSS I would not have a problem with it, but background checking everyone who buys a gun to that degree would take a seriously long time, per applicant. Waiting times for guns would sky rocket, and left right and centre would be going crazy about guns being taken away. Never mind that on top of that you would presumably need to have a recurring check up for psych evaluations - not everyone who is crazy was always crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Not to mention the left screaming about invasion of privacy. I suppose everyone should be required to have all that information readily available for all to see. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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