hoorta Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Defense wins championships. You watching Sashi? yup- but it helps if you have a Manning, Brady, Newton. or Palmer. probably only take the Browns another three seasons to get a defense as good as the Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 two best defense's in the NFL playing each other for the SB. Somehow I think though that the Carolina O line will hold off the Broncos D more than the Broncos O line holds the Panthers D. Newtons a way different QB than Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Defense wins championships. huge believer in that myself, but considering we went D-heavy the last 2-3 drafts and basically either stayed the same or regressed, if we don't pick a QB and WR this year early, i'm gonna flip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 huge believer in that myself, but considering we went D-heavy the last 2-3 drafts and basically either stayed the same or regressed, if we don't pick a QB and WR this year early, i'm gonna flip! I'm as pissed off as anybody that we've invested so much in the D already and look what we got for it. That being said our offense isn't nearly the problem that the defense is. Only position on offense i'd like to see with our first pick is "maybe" an O lineman. If that D isn't fixed anything we do on offense is a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 huge believer in that myself, but considering we went D-heavy the last 2-3 drafts and basically either stayed the same or regressed, if we don't pick a QB and WR this year early, i'm gonna flip! Problem is we have so many overrated, overpaid D players, that we need to clean a bunch out and start over. D still gets you to the playoffs. With Mary Jane coming back at WR, we will bet the bank on no relapse I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I think the days of a Blt with the best defense but the worst offense winning a SB, are over. You have to have a D and O that's at least in the discussion for being among the best in the NFL. It starts in the trenches. Always has always will. Unless football goes flag, that will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 almost game time... weather looks pretty good in Denver. Most surprised by the AFC game - especially with Denver's struggles against a beat up Pittspuke team. All things considered, it will be a nice sendoff for Manning - win or lose. I thought the NFC game could go either way but, once again, surprised by the score. Don't see how anybody can denigrate Cam Newton (on field). Sure he can run but he, also, has a cannon arm. I always lean toward the AFC teams in the SB, but not always. I need to let this one simmer for a couple of weeks before deciding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The panthers have had many injuries to their defensive backfield but their dl and line backers are so good they have cb's off the street performing at a high level. The Browns need to address their dl and linebackers. Justin Gilbert was a stupid pick to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Saw this on reddit. Lol. "Bad times" aka losing an AFC championship after winning the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Saw this on reddit. Lol. "Bad times" aka losing an AFC championship after winning the super bowl. I live in NE, and I don't hate the patriots but even some of my friends who are Pats fans acknowledge they're a spoiled bunch. Watching that Denver defense was brutal on both New England and every Browns fan who now sees how far we have to go on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I live in NE, and I don't hate the patriots but even some of my friends who are Pats fans acknowledge they're a spoiled bunch. Watching that Denver defense was brutal on both New England and every Browns fan who now sees how far we have to go on defense. Where do you live. I am from Chicopee, MA but now live in South Windsor, CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Watching that Denver defense was brutal on both New England and every Browns fan who now sees how far we have to go on defense. Amen to that--even with the 2 starting safeties out late in the game they were still lights out in the crunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Where do you live. I am from Chicopee, MA but now live in South Windsor, CT. Framingham now. Grew up in CT(Glastonbury and Farmington). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Framingham now. Grew up in CT(Glastonbury and Farmington). OK Know all those areas pretty well. Actually had relatives grow up on Shipman Drive in Glastonbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 OK Know all those areas pretty well. Actually had relatives grow up on Shipman Drive in Glastonbury. I grew up on Courtney Circle if you know where that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gipper Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 El Viva El Vyva El Viva Vyva Vo, Foom Go get a rat trap, bigger than a cat trap Go get another one bigger than the one Sis Boom Sis Boom Sis Boom Bah (Carolina) Panthers Rah Rah Rah. Old cheer from when I was in HS....always remembered it. (Insert the name of my High School....who were the Panthers...for the original) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Amen to that--even with the 2 starting safeties out late in the game they were still lights out in the crunch. Safety play means little when you have Ware, Miller, Wolfe, Jackson & co pressuring Brady nearly every drop back. Seriously, I haven't seen a pass rush do that to Brady since XLII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Looking into the future, how long will it be before we'll see another NE vs Denver AFC Championship Game? Both Manning and Brady are getting long of tooth, and are in the twilight of their career's. If both QB's retire, what are the odds that these 2 teams will make it back to the post season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Brady will probably outlast some of the 2015 draft class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Looking into the future, how long will it be before we'll see another NE vs Denver AFC Championship Game? Both Manning and Brady are getting long of tooth, and are in the twilight of their career's. If both QB's retire, what are the odds that these 2 teams will make it back to the post season? Without knowing contract situations, if Denver's defense keeps most of those guys all they need is above average QB play to have a real shot again next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Without knowing contract situations, if Denver's defense keeps most of those guys all they need is above average QB play to have a real shot again next season. My money is on them acquiring the best FA, probably Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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