Axe Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 The detailed breakdown I saw last night of the remaining states showed that no one has a realistic chance of getting to 1237 so honestly? I have no idea who the nominee will be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 That Ted Cruz is being portrayed as the lesser of two evils says as much as anything about the state of the republican party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Oh, I prefer Cruz over Trump now. Bank on it, Trump's entertaining bluster has hit several speed bumps. Hillary Clinton's Goldman Sachs Problem | Mother Jones www.motherjones.com/.../06/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs... Hillary Clinton's Goldman Sachs Problem. She talks populism, ... "She's not giving any more speeches to Goldman Sachs." Clinton's relationship with Goldman Sachs is ... Hillary Clinton's Goldman Sachs Problem |... billmoyers.com/2014/06/05/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs... Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Sachs Problem. ... “She’s not giving any more speeches to Goldman Sachs.” Clinton’s relationship with Goldman Sachs is not unique. Elizabeth Warren Highlights Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Problem ... blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/10/13/elizabeth-warren... Elizabeth Warren Highlights Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Problem. By. Peter Nicholas. ... Goldman Sachs Group Inc. has been the couple’s top Wall Street ... Goldman Paid Bill Clinton $200,000 For Speech Before Bank ... www.ibtimes.com/goldman-paid-bill-clinton-200000-speech... Goldman Sachs paid Bill Clinton $200,000 for a speech months before it began lobbying the State Department. ... Two years ago, Hillary Clinton, ... EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton Said to Hire Former Wall Street ... www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-16/exclusive... EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton Said to Hire Former Wall Street Cop as Campaign CFO ... Though a former partner at Goldman Sachs Group Inc., ... Hillary Clinton and the ‘giant vampire squid’: How dangerous ... www.rawstory.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-and-the-giant... That Hillary Clinton accepted $675,000 from Goldman Sachs for three speeches in 2013 probably did more damage to her battle for the Democratic nomination than any ... Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Sachs Problem | Global... www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs... Hillary Clinton’s Goldman Sachs Problem She talks ... “She’s not giving any more speeches toGoldman Sachs.” Clinton’s relationship with Goldman Sachs is ... Hillary Clinton Has a Big Honking Goldman Sachs Problem gawker.com/hillary-clinton-has-a-big-honking-goldman... When Hillary Clinton spoke to Goldman Sachs executives and technology titans at a summit in Arizona in October of 2013, she spoke glowingly of the work the bank was ... Hillary Clinton's Lucrative Goldman Sachs Speaking Gigs www.nationalreview.com/corner/362637/hillary-clintons... Hillary Clinton spoke at two separate Goldman Sachs events on the evenings of Thursday, October 24 and Tuesday, October 29. As both Politico and the New York Times ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 The republican party is going all out on a smear campaign against hillary, relying on 'but he's a socialist' to be the automatic game winner against bernie. I mean, this popped on my feed (yes I subscribe to both dems and reps, you get both sides then): https://gop.com/bernies-radical-anti-energy-agenda-is-now-hillarys/ Basic premise is, look at all of these positions where hillary has flip-flopped to take Bernie's side, while bernie has stayed the same throughout! Except, the reps are inadvertently painting bernie as someone who is reliable and principled. I tell you, if bernie wins, this could all backfire on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 You need to start watching Fox news or something. There is NO SMEAR of the higgardly slut. All anybody has to do is just tell the truth about "her". I think she's actually an alien escaped from Area 51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Call it smear or not, the reps are going all out to attack hillary, baseless or not, and either assuming bernie won't get the nom, or will be a pushover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Cruz in the White House scares the hell out of me. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Trump scares me if he ever even gets close to having the nuclear codes. Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't) Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trumps-terrifying-nuke-answer-at-the-debate-should-end-his-campaign-but-it-wont-20151216 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Call it smear or not, the reps are going all out to attack hillary, baseless or not, and either assuming bernie won't get the nom, or will be a pushover. I haven't seen or heard any baseless smears against Hitlery. The using the Private Server to send and receive highly classified material is true. The accepting money from wall street is true, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Cysko Kid Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Trump scares me if he ever even gets close to having the nuclear codes. Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't) Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trumps-terrifying-nuke-answer-at-the-debate-should-end-his-campaign-but-it-wont-20151216 What's his terrifying answer? That he'd leave all cards on the table? Literally anyone else says that and it's not even a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Is this all we're doing now? Spamming cartoons that give you a 5 second jolly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Another republican article bashing hillary https://gop.com/heres-why-democrats-should-be-worried-after-hillarys-wisconsin-loss/ They're really putting everything in to assuming she wins the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I see. CAN'T STOP THIS FREIGHT TRAIN BUILD WALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 What's his terrifying answer? That he'd leave all cards on the table? Literally anyone else says that and it's not even a thing Did you read the link I posted? Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't) Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering Donald Trump and I have something in common: When right-wing radio host Hugh Hewitt asked the GOP frontrunner about America's nuclear triad at Tuesday night's debate, neither of us had heard that phrase before. But Donald Trump is running for president, and I'm not. There's another difference between us: I could glean from the context of Hewitt's question that he was asking Trump what he would do to maintain our nuclear arsenal. (The triad refers to our land-, sea- and air-based systems for delivering nukes.) Trump had absolutely no idea what Hewitt was asking, and his answer was genuinely terrifying. Trump has said a lot of scary (and racist) things on the campaign trail, from calling undocumented immigrants rapists to saying he'd ban Muslims from the country to urging supporters at his rallies to attack protesters. But his answer Tuesday night was especially terrifying; it revealed what it means to put an ignorant blowhard with a head full of jagged rocks in charge of enough munitions to blow up the entire world several times over. Let's go through his answer. If you didn't see it in real time, know that you should experience the stomach-churning terror you feel when you climb that first hill on an especially tall roller coaster. First, Hewitt's question: "Mr. Trump, Dr. Carson just referenced the single most important job of the president, the command, the control and the care of our nuclear forces. And he mentioned the triad. The B-52s are older than I am. The missiles are old. The submarines are aging out. It's an executive order. It's a commander-in-chief decision. "What's your priority among our nuclear triad?" No matter how little you know about the makeup of our nuclear forces, it's clear Hewitt is suggesting the technologies we use to deliver a nuclear attack are too old, and asking Trump what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining them. Right? You'd have to be completely ignorant, an utter buffoon with the intelligence of an earthworm the other earthworms make fun of for being dumb not to get the gist of what Hewitt is asking here. And yet. This was Trump's response: "Well, first of all, I think we need somebody absolutely that we can trust, who is totally responsible, who really knows what he or she is doing. That is so powerful and so important." On the face of it, Trump's first comments may seem reasonable. We do need someone we can trust, who is totally responsible, who knows what he or she is doing when it comes to taking charge of our nuclear arsenal. But this wasn't an introduction to a fuller answer explaining why he knows what he's doing (or what his plans are). To Trump, that was the substantive answer. Listen to Trump for 30 seconds at any of his rallies and you realize that's the entirety of his thought process. "Make America Great Again" is a perfectly fine slogan if you have a plan to make America great again, but with Trump, the slogan is the entire agenda. There is no plan. How do we know Trump is responsible enough to handle our nuclear arsenal? He went on: "And one of the things that I'm frankly most proud of is that in 2003, 2004, I was totally against going into Iraq because you're going to destabilize the Middle East. I called it. I called it very strongly. And it was very important." First of all, Trump is simply lying; he did not, in fact, strongly object to the Iraq War before it began. But even if he was against the Iraq War, that doesn't qualify him to control and maintain the world's largest collection of nuclear bombs. I opposed the war, marching with signs and everything. And please believe me when I tell you I have no business anywhere near a bomb with the power to evaporate a city. Trump wasn't done yet. "But we have to be extremely vigilant and extremely careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ballgame. Frankly, I would have said get out of Syria; get out – if we didn't have the power of weaponry today. The power is so massive that we can't just leave areas that 50 years ago or 75 years ago we wouldn't care. It was hand-to-hand combat." Yes, in 1940 soldiers only fought in hand-to-hand combat. The boxing-related deaths of World War II were truly devastating. Again, Trump is right, in a childlike way. We do have to be careful with nuclear; it does change the whole ballgame. But these are generalities borne out of ignorance. In 145 words Trump has yet to approach anything remotely like an answer to Hewitt's question. He hasn't said what his priority would be when it comes to maintaining or upgrading our nukes. He hasn't even said what his principles would be. But surely that's coming soon, right? You know what? Let's just finish the exchange. Trump: "The biggest problem this world has today is not President Obama with global warming, which is inconceivable, this is what he's saying. The biggest problem we have is nuclear – nuclear proliferation and having some maniac, having some madman go out and get a nuclear weapon. That's in my opinion, that is the single biggest problem that our country faces right now." Hewitt: "Of the three legs of the triad, though, do you have a priority? I want to go to Sen. Rubio after that and ask him." Trump: "I think – I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me." The devastation is very important to him. That flailing nonsense is the best Trump can manage. A reasonably well-informed fifth grader could come up with something better. The problem isn't simply that Trump doesn't have detailed plans to make sure our nuclear weapons are safely maintained. The problem is that he doesn't understand even the most basic premise of a relatively simple question. He couldn't muster a "I'll make sure we have the most modern, best nuclear arsenal the world has ever seen," because he didn't know what he was being asked. Imagine handing over the nuclear codes to a man with the comprehension skills of Donald J. Trump. Do you honestly believe he would understand the consequences of using them? Trump is obsessed with tough-guy machismo. How much provocation does he need to press that button? Trump hasn't walked back any of the racist, ignorant, stupid things he's said over the course of the campaign, and he certainly won't admit to making a mistake last night. But his inability to muster ten remotely sensible words about what he would do as president with the most destructive collection of weapons in the history of mankind should be an automatic disqualifier for the presidency. This moment should be the beginning of the end for his campaign. Just like all the other moments should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 So I have a few thoughts on your post/text dump, OBF: - donald trump is not an idiot. he knows exactly what he's doing. we need to do away with this notion...wait that's familiar. Anyway, he's not stupid, he does understand what he's being asked. - regardless of the content, I love that you're posting something from rolling stone to back you up, a story that not just is from rolling stone, but links to buzzfeed as a reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 So I have a few thoughts on your post/text dump, OBF: - donald trump is not an idiot. he knows exactly what he's doing. we need to do away with this notion...wait that's familiar. Anyway, he's not stupid, he does understand what he's being asked. - regardless of the content, I love that you're posting something from rolling stone to back you up, a story that not just is from rolling stone, but links to buzzfeed as a reliable source. How many more links do you want Chris? http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/263863-paul-trump-has-no-clue-what-the-nuclear-triad-is http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-nuclear-triad-question/2015/12/16/id/705968/ http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/12/17/what-is-nuclear-triad-debate-sot.cnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I'm not saying I disagree, it's just that you're so staunchly conservative, citing a rolling stone article is hilarious. I think everyone knows my views on the trumpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I'm not saying I disagree, it's just that you're so staunchly conservative, citing a rolling stone article is hilarious. I think everyone knows my views on the trumpet. I could have linked many sources but I thought you lefties would like the Rolling Stone one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I don't see anything really wrong with what he said. He was vocally against the Iraq war like a month after it started, well before it was cool to be against it. But I also concur with the idea that Trump is not an idiot, in fact he's very smart. I read somewhere he's going to start giving a series of policy speeches similar to the AIPAC one - gearing up for the general election. He's going to win many more over from those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Oh trump is smart. Really smart. He's the smartest. You know, he's so smart, so smart. He's made so much money, he's smart, he's a winner. He definitely knows what he's going to do to make america great again. And that's what he's going to do, you know. Make america great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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