Mr. T Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Monday, April 06, 2009 Cleveland Browns 2009 Draft Preview By Tony Moss, NFL Editor (Sports Network) - The Browns are a mess. Their best defensive player, tackle Shaun Rogers, has been at odds with new head coach Eric Mangini. One of their top offensive weapons, wideout Braylon Edwards, has reportedly been on the trading block, with his contract about to run out after 2009. But Cleveland probably can't afford to address either position via the Draft, since the team only has five picks and has a host of other needs. The Browns didn't rush the passer well in 2008 and the cornerback slot was a complete revolving door due to injuries. Another backfield option is needed with starter Jamal Lewis in decline, and a pass-catching tight end following the trade of Kellen Winslow would make some sense as well. With all of those needs, you can pretty much forget Cleveland selecting a quarterback anywhere in this Draft, even though the team's new braintrust of coach Eric Mangini and GM George Kokinis are apparently not enamored of Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. 2008 Record: 4-12 First Pick: No. 5 Number of Selections: 5 (1, 2, 2, 4, 6) RECENT FIRST ROUND HISTORY: 2008 - none; 2007 - Joe Thomas (T, Wisconsin), Brady Quinn (QB, Notre Dame); 2006 - Kamerion Wimbley (OLB, Florida State); 2005 - Braylon Edwards (WR, Michigan); 2004 - Kellen Winslow (TE, Miami- Florida); 2003 - Jeff Faine (C, Notre Dame); 2002 - William Green (RB, Boston College); 2001 - Gerard Warren (DT, Florida); 2000 - Courtney Brown (DE, Penn State); 1999 - Tim Couch (QB, Kentucky); 1995 - Craig Powell (LB, Ohio State); 1994 - Antonio Langham (CB, Alabama), Derrick Alexander (WR, Michigan); 1993 - Steve Everitt (C, Michigan); 1992 - Tommy Vardell (FB, Stanford); 1991 - Eric Turner (S, UCLA); 1990 - none. _________________________________________ And just when I was feeling good about our chances, some dipshit has to rub our noses in the dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Number of Selections: 5 (1, 2, 2, 4, 6) RECENT FIRST ROUND HISTORY: 2008 - none; 2007 - Joe Thomas (T, Wisconsin), - So far so good Brady Quinn (QB, Notre Dame); - TIME WILL TELL 2006 - Kamerion Wimbley (OLB, Florida State); TIME WILL TELL 2005 - Braylon Edwards (WR, Michigan); TIME WILL TELL 2004 - Kellen Winslow (TE, Miami- Florida); GONE 2003 - Jeff Faine (C, Notre Dame); BUST 2002 - William Green (RB, Boston College); BUST 2001 - Gerard Warren (DT, Florida); BUST 2000 - Courtney Brown (DE, Penn State); BUST 1999 - Tim Couch (QB, Kentucky); BUST _________________________________________ And just when I was feeling good about our chances, some dipshit has to rub our noses in the dirt. What a mess of picks... That's embarrassing. Hardly anything to show for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 What a mess of picks... That's embarrassing. Hardly anything to show for it.. Do you remember Touchdown Tommy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Faine is not a bust. He is solid. Not worth a first rounder, but not a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Mankok needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Do you remember Touchdown Tommy? Tommy Vardell - Didn't he manage about 3 or 4 touchdowns while with the browns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timugen Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Mankok needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat. As long as that rabbit can play some football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Faine is not a bust. He is solid. Not worth a first rounder, but not a bust. I understand your point, but when you draft a guy first round and he is no longer with you after 3 years, that's not good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Tommy Vardell - Didn't he manage about 3 or 4 touchdowns while with the browns... I think so, one of those was a 2 point conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaygroundLegend Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I think by the time trades are done with, were gonna have 2 (maybe 3 if we trade edwards and trade down) 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 3 third round picks and give or take a few low round choices Im pretty sure we will off Derek for a 2nd, then trade down or trade edwards, or as I said, do both I think we can snag all the people on my board here.... Michael Crabtree WR Rey Maualuga ILB William Moore SS Rashad Jennings RB Connor Barwin OLB Frantz Joseph ILB Jarett Dillard WR Rylan Reed OT (UDFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (Sports Network) - The Browns are a mess. Their best defensive player, tackle Shaun Rogers, has been at odds with new head coach Eric Mangini. One of their top offensive weapons, wideout Braylon Edwards, has reportedly been on the trading block, with his contract about to run out after 2009. But Cleveland probably can't afford to address either position via the Draft, since the team only has five picks and has a host of other needs. The Browns didn't rush the passer well in 2008 and the cornerback slot was a complete revolving door due to injuries. Another backfield option is needed with starter Jamal Lewis in decline, and a pass-catching tight end following the trade of Kellen Winslow would make some sense as well. With all of those needs, you can pretty much forget Cleveland selecting a quarterback anywhere in this Draft, even though the team's new braintrust of coach Eric Mangini and GM George Kokinis are apparently not enamored of Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. This is probably the shittiest draft "preview" I have ever read in my entire life. Kudos, Tony Moss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Lol i remember no touchdown tommy..anyone remember a real super bust named mike junkin? I recall this guy being a walking injury and nothing else...hehehehe Yup mangini needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat and that rabbit is named Curry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaygroundLegend Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 This is probably the shittiest draft "preview" I have ever read in my entire life. Kudos, Tony Moss! Agreed, it doesnt really preview anything... its just an insult to our current state of affairs, not to mention alot of that is false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Actually, I thought Vardell was a pretty good player. He played behind some atrocious lines back then if you'll recall. He could catch out of the backfield and block, plus he ran freaking hard. You put that guy in a Dallas or San Fran situation back then and he has a real nice career. I met him and Frank Stams out one night after the Browns announced their move and they were both cool about it. Vardell looked huge in pads (especially the Mack like shoulder pads) but he was surprisingly not that big in person but still pretty ripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I understand your point, but when you draft a guy first round and he is no longer with you after 3 years, that's not good for us. At the time, we thought we were getting an upgrade with Bentley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Qwimbley Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Horrible article. Not only does it not actually preview our draft, we don't need to draft a pass-catching TE instead of a WR, and we aren't missing out not taking a DL, we arent in need of one. And our revolving door of CBs due to injuries? Im pretty sure our 2 starters started every game but one, where Daniels started over McDonald for like one series. And it doesnt even mention our number 2/3 need, a starting SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Horrible article. Not only does it not actually preview our draft, we don't need to draft a pass-catching TE instead of a WR, and we aren't missing out not taking a DL, we arent in need of one. And our revolving door of CBs due to injuries? Im pretty sure our 2 starters started every game but one, where Daniels started over McDonald for like one series. And it doesnt even mention our number 2/3 need, a starting SS. No offense to anybody posting these, but national guy's perspective on what the Browns need (or anybody else) is usually about as brilliant as one of Lums' retorts. Hell, if I was one of these supposed gurus, I'd visit message boards around the league for each team and could put together something way more cognizant about each team's needs than this toolshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgPound4Life Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 I think by the time trades are done with, were gonna have 2 (maybe 3 if we trade edwards and trade down) 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, 3 third round picks and give or take a few low round choices Im pretty sure we will off Derek for a 2nd, then trade down or trade edwards, or as I said, do both I think we can snag all the people on my board here.... Michael Crabtree WR Rey Maualuga ILB William Moore SS Rashad Jennings RB Connor Barwin OLB Frantz Joseph ILB Jarett Dillard WR Rylan Reed OT (UDFA) we could only hope for a draft similar to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I think they get the Giants first and third for Edwards and they take: Crabtree and (insert USC linebacker here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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