OldBrownsFan Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-DefectorI respect Trump's fans. That's why I can no longer support the man himself. Stephanie Cegielski Mar 28, 2016 http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Is Donald Trump Looking For An Exit Strategy To His Long Con Of America?http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/04/16/donald-trump-looking-exit-strategy-long-troll-gop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Grow some balls and support Trump OBF. This is NOT a defector from the Trump campaign She was the founder of the "make america great again super PAC", never had any communication with the Trump campaign let alone Trump himself, and Trump disavowed the super PAC and requested the FEC shut it down because he's self funding his campaign http://www.snopes.com/stephanie-cegielski-letter-trump/ Basically some super PAC formed for Trump, Trump demanded they get shut down and said other candidates should do the same (they haven't), now this bitch has sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Also FYI, new Emerson college poll shows Cruz has the highest unfavorable among both Republicans and Democrats. Trump also officially branded Hillary. - low energy Jeb - Little Marco - Lyin' Ted - Crooked Hillary He's ready to win the GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Grow some balls and support Trump OBF. This is NOT a defector from the Trump campaign She was the founder of the "make america great again super PAC", never had any communication with the Trump campaign let alone Trump himself, and Trump disavowed the super PAC and requested the FEC shut it down because he's self funding his campaign http://www.snopes.com/stephanie-cegielski-letter-trump/ Basically some super PAC formed for Trump, Trump demanded they get shut down and said other candidates should do the same (they haven't), now this bitch has sour grapes. The headline was the only thing Snopes said was false. She is responsible for her story and not the headline someone else lists with her story. She was founder of the pro Trump Super Pac. Are Super Pac's allowed to coordinate with campaigns. No, although Trump constantly accuses Cruz of working with Super Pacs (maybe Trump knows a little about this personally?). What we know is she states she does have inside information here "Almost a year ago, recruited for my public relations and public policy expertise, I sat in Trump Tower being told that the goal was to get The Donald to poll in double digits and come in second in delegate count," Trump's goal? "His candidacy was a protest candidacy." As for the sour grapes part she claims to have supported closing the Super Pac: "And as part of that support, in October, I supported the internal decision to close the Super PAC in order to position him as the quintessential non-politician. I still supported him with great passion after that. The decision to close the Super PAC was part of that devotion to his message of outsider change." Is Trump really self funding?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 She never worked for the Trump campaign or ever talked to Trump. Saying "I was a top Trump advisor" is a bit different than "I was a spokeswoman for a Trump super PAC that he disavowed and told the FEC to shut down" Your truth judgement has been altered by Ted Cruz, I think. And yes he is self funding. He accepts small personal donations but doesn't ask for them - he has had some $20M in ad buys out of his pocket, the videos where people questioned it were when his campaign only had spent like $3M Regardless, this woman here has no credibility. She straight lied and then said "yea I wanted to shut down the super PAC too!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bbedward Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 You really can't criticize Trump's funding strategy if you support anybody else. Giving his campaign loans from himself - accepting small individual donations, what's the problem? "Self-funded" still seems valid to me as he's losing money out of his own pocket. I'd rather see Donald Trump give Donald Trump's campaign a loan than see Ted Cruz collect millions from Exxon and Goldman Sachs Someone on Cruz's campaign illegally solicitated donations for a super PAC, but not that it matters he's an honest Texan (who happens to be named Rafael with a Canadian birth certificate, worth millions of dollars, part of the Princeton and Harvard elite, worked with George W to create another disaster in the middle East) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 She sounds like some typical vindictive cunt. Like an ex girlfriend or wife who wants to fuck with you forever because of some perceived injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Also FYI, new Emerson college poll shows Cruz has the highest unfavorable among both Republicans and Democrats. Trump also officially branded Hillary. - low energy Jeb - Little Marco - Lyin' Ted - Crooked Hillary He's ready to win the GE You still don't get how badly he's going to lose do you? And frankly it's his own doing. He ensured that the only people that will vote for him are a demographic that can't get him the GE. If he was serious about being president this whole time, I have no explanations for why he torpedoed his general electability. The Trojan horse theory really does make more and more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 You still don't get how badly he's going to lose do you? And frankly it's his own doing. He ensured that the only people that will vote for him are a demographic that can't get him the GE. If he was serious about being president this whole time, I have no explanations for why he torpedoed his general electability. The Trojan horse theory really does make more and more sense What's the bet? AoL.com poll said 50% of Bernie supporters would consider Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldBrownsFan Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Not buying it Ed and I think you fall too much for everything this salesman (and he is a good salesman) says hook,line,sinker,fisherman and boots. Trump is only crying about the rules now??? Think about it. These rules were in place last year and the simpleton never read them. He doesn't cry about the rules when it benefits him like receiving 37 percent of the popular vote yet getting 45 percent of the delegates. He never whined when he won Hawaii who has a similar type caucus of those he is whining about now. This doofus never read the rules and thought he could fly in and have big speeches at the airports and not bother with the hard work of a ground game. If he would have read the rules last year and didn't like the process he should have ran as a third party. This clown is destroying the republican party and ruined any chance for the republicans to win this year and has given the election to Hillary Clinton. Of course that may have been what he wanted to do all along as it was his pal Bill Clinton who called Trump a few weeks before he decided to run and encouraged him to "get more involved in republican politics" and may have encouraged Trump to run for president as a republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I can't stomach cruz under any circumstance and the only way I could be convinced to vote for hillary or bread lines bernie is if the republicans nominate cruz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I can't stomach cruz under any circumstance and the only way I could be convinced to vote for hillary or bread lines bernie is if the republicans nominate cruz. This election cycle does seem to be as divisive as ever. People will vote based on who they don't want rather than who they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 That's almost always the case. I can't remember the last time I actually wanted a candidate. Certainly not president obama who I knew for a fact I did not want leading the country. I didn't love mccain or mittens but I thought that ultimately they'd both do less damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 The only people in love with candidates are fools. Fools were in love with Obama and fools are in love with sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Outwardly over-the-top religious politicians irritate me with all of the pandering. Couple that with his creepy family interactions and no way I am voting for Cruz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I'm much more ambivalent in my support for trump. I think he's basically an asshole but that asshole being president all but guarantees the utter collapse of the rule of political elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Winning by manipulating the rules? Isn't that a little bit like winning best dressed student in the yearbook because you figured out how to pick the lock of the back door of the men's shop? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Cruz won't be the nominee so there's nothing to worry about - he's collapsing nationally and has collapsed in California where Trump is up by nearly 20 points in the latest poll. Fallout from doing backdoor deals with delegates? Trump is anti-TPP, anti-NAFTA, non-interventionist, and the establishment absolutely hates him - good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I can't stomach cruz under any circumstance and the only way I could be convinced to vote for hillary or bread lines bernie is if the republicans nominate cruz. there's no shame in just not voting. Don't add your consent to people you clearly don't feel should be anywhere near the white house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 there's no shame in just not voting. Don't add your consent to people you clearly don't feel should be anywhere near the white house. There is - you should go spoil your ballot or vote to abstain at least. Not voting gets you nowhere, while if everyone who doesn't want either votes and 'neither' gets like 25% of the vote it does send a pretty clear message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Cruz (probably) won't be the nominee so there's nothing to worry about - he's collapsing nationally and has collapsed in California where Trump is up by nearly 20 points in the latest poll. Fallout from doing backdoor deals with delegates? Trump is anti-TPP, anti-NAFTA, non-interventionist, and the establishment absolutely hates him - good enough for me. Trump is in the best position to win. I only give Cruz an outside chance to win. I think the odds are right now Trump may come up a little short on delegates but it will be small enough that he can get some uncommitted delegates to put him over and win on the first ballot. If it goes to a second ballot I think the odds start shifting to Cruz but that is only if there is a second ballot. If it goes multiple ballots a long shot like Kasich looks better and better IMO. Here are the options for the GOP and all are bad: Trump wins the nomination = lose to Clinton Cruz wins and Trump supporters will not support Cruz in November = lose to Clinton Kasich wins as the GOP looks at him as the one most likely to beat Clinton in Nov and both Trump and Cruz supporters won't support Kasich ( even though I would) = lose to Clinton The GOP is not only concerned about losing in a landslide with Trump in Nov but also he may cost the republicans the Senate and possibly the house. They may very well look at Kasich who might lose in Nov but not drag down a bunch of other republican candidates. I see why Kasich is staying in the race. No matter what happens Clinton is such an awful candidate at least the republicans would have that going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 OBF OBF would bet if Trump comes up about 50 delegates shy of the 1237 needed Saintly Trump will have 50 delegates flying around on the Trump plane, eating the best Trump steaks at Mar a Lago and having a great time at the casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Things can get pretty intense at convenience stores http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics/donald-trump-9-11-7-11-mix-buffalo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 http://anonhq.com/hillary-camp/ For those of you happily carrying Hillary's water. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I don't think there are too many vehement Hillary supporters here tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I don't think there are too many vehement Hillary supporters here tbh. De Facto. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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