SkippinTurtles Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Teams mortgage their drafts for QB's. It used to be RB's. Elliott and a seasoned RG3 would be better than Griffin and Alfred Morris were. IF they take a stud WR in the second round. No one in this draft will make the defense better than Elliott would make the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 yeah and when are the browns supposed to pick him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 yeah and when are the browns supposed to pick him? The Cowboys offensive line is loaded. They could take him at 4 and run all over the NFC East for the next 10 years. Take him at 2 and the running game is set for ten years. Or draft a pussy QB who will fold and then the offense continues to suck ass. The North isn't worried about Wentz or Goff. Elliott and RG3 will make them game-plan. Maybe RG3 doesn't last, but Elliott is the bridge to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Teams mortgage their drafts for QB's. It used to be RB's. Elliott and a seasoned RG3 would be better than Griffin and Alfred Morris were. IF they take a stud WR in the second round. No one in this draft will make the defense better than Elliott would make the offense. The operative words are "used to be". Tom Brady has more Championships by himself than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson- combined. Sure, I'd love to have a potentially great RB like Zeke- but if you can name the starting running backs in Super Bowl 50- go to the head of the class. The only way we take Elliot is in a trade down scenario. NOT @ #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him. You don't take rb's that high anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Our QB needs protection, so we should pass on the elite tackle prospect in favour of a running back. Makes sense. I love the tenacity - even though every single one of Skippin' Turtles' threads are idiotic, they keep popping up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Elliot would be great, but as others have said not at #2 and he won't be there at #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2? We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Our QB needs protection, so we should pass on the elite tackle prospect in favour of a running back. Makes sense. I love the tenacity - even though every single one of Skippin' Turtles' threads are idiotic, they keep popping up! I didn't get the logic either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEK216 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 yeah and when are the browns supposed to pick him? At 8 when the Eagles trade their draft to us to get Carson Wentz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him. More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP. There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP. There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for... What are we getting back with our move down to #8 in your scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I still like doing the trade for Dallas to go to #4, they also giving us their 2e and 3rd round picks. We still get one of the best players out there....and we get those other high picks to fill holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 If the FO is convinced RGIII and a development QB in a later round is the path I'm all in on Zeke. A trade down to 8 would be optimal. While there aren't a lot of RB's drafted that high there aren't many like Zeke either IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2? We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street. Zombo Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah. Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that, Rumors have it that that is so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah. Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb? If you had a crystal ball....or a time machine in a DeLorean, you could see the future and tell which players will be beasts and which will be busts....and of course you take the beasts. People thought Jamarcus Russell would be a beast. Turns out the only kind of beast he was was the kind the Whos in Whoville ate for Christmas dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then. it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah. Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb? Jesus it's baffling that was 17 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP. There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for... Hopefully he has a child to beat so he can be suspended for a season or so thereby lengthening his productivity in the NFL ala AP. (sorry was that in bad taste?) WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm a Michigan fan Zeke is a beast Picking a HB that high is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then. it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks. Totally agree here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 (sorry was that in bad taste?) For you? Coin flip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm a Michigan fan Zeke is a beast Picking a HB that high is stupid Mel Kiper still says that he would not draft a RB until the 2d round at earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Mel Kiper still says that he would not draft a RB until the 2d round at earliest. fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 fixed it for you. Except I wasn't be sarcastic at all......that is what he says. And Kiper is no worse or better than any other the other draft prognosticators out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 While I'd be personally against trading up, there are rumors that Dallas is interested. I think Philly ultimately will be the trading partner if there is one, but my question for you guys is if you don't take a QB and stay at #2, then who's the pick? Tunsil, Ramsey, Zeke, Bosa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 While I'd be personally against trading up, there are rumors that Dallas is interested. I think Philly ultimately will be the trading partner if there is one, but my question for you guys is if you don't take a QB and stay at #2, then who's the pick? Tunsil, Ramsey, Zeke, Bosa? Opinions vary with Tunsil getting the least support and Bosa probably the most of the four you list, but there are more... Jack and Buckner also get mentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Opinions vary with Tunsil getting the least support and Bosa probably the most of the four you list, but there are more... Jack and Buckner also get mentions. lol at this point, it does not matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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