jbluhm86 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/china-wants-visit-mars-by-2020-beat-nasa-set-first-manned-moon-base-1556304?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news China has announced that it intends to explore Mars and plans to get there by 2020, as well as being one of the first countries to explore the "dark side" of the moon. In a rare video interview with the BBC, Wu Weiren, a high-ranking official in the China National Space Administration (CNSA) who served as chief of China's moon and Mars missions, revealed that China is currently working on a definite Mars probe exploration mission. "We will orbit Mars, land and deploy a rover — all in one mission," said Wu. "We could have started our Mars mission earlier but finally the country has given its approval." Interestingly, China also has its sights set on effectively colonising the moon by establishing a manned base. "Our short-term goal is to orbit the moon, land on the moon and take samples back from the moon. Our long-term goal is to explore, land, and settle. We want a manned lunar landing to stay for longer periods and establish a research base," explained Wu. "It's quite challenging to land there, but according to research there might be water or ice because of the lack of sunlight, so we'd very much like to check that out." Contrary to what you might think, Wu stressed that China is very keen to collaborate with space agencies from other countries such as Nasa in the US – much like in the sci-fi film The Martian, where China's space agency offers its Taiyang Shen space rocket booster to send rescue supplies to Nasa astronaut Mark Watney, who is stuck on Mars with dwindling resources. This is an idea that has been impossible since the US Congress passed a spending bill in 2011 expressly forbidding Nasa from working in China, due to a high risk of espionage. "We would like to co-operate with the US, especially for space and moon exploration," he said. "We have urged the US many times to get rid of restrictions so scientists from both countries can work together on future exploration." Reuters reports that a senior Chinese space official Xu Dazhe, the chief of the China National Space Administration, said at a press conference on 22 April that The Martian film shows that the US would not be adverse to working with China. "When I saw the US film The Martian, which envisages China-US cooperation on a Mars rescue mission under emergency circumstances, it shows that our U.S. counterparts very much hope to co-operate with us," said Xu. "However, it's very regrettable that, for reasons everyone is aware of, there are currently some impediments to cooperation. I believe that on this matter, China is more and more open, and I hope our American friends can take note." US still worries about risk of espionage In 2015, researchers from the University of California prepared a special report for the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission entitled China Dream, Space Dream: China's Progress in Space Technologies and Implications for the United States. "Although China is probably truthful when it says that it is not in a space race, such statements mask the true intent of its space program: to become militarily, diplomatically, commercially, and economically as competitive as the US is in space," the authors wrote in the report. "As a result, China's progress in space technologies, whether in relative or absolute terms, has implications for the US and its neighbours. Nevertheless, although China's space program may pose challenges for the United States and its space power neighbours, it may also present opportunities for scientific collaboration on the Earth's environment and outer space. "In addition, it may make human space flight safer by providing additional capabilities to rescue stranded or imperiled astronauts through the use of common docking apparatus." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Hopefully they don't break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I would not want to be the Chinese astronaut getting to work out the bugs in some Chinese engineered equipment on Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Too bad so many Americans seem anti-science, or we could be racing them back. Hell, this is a reason to vote for trump. He won't lose to China in a dick measuring contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 http://downtrend.com/71superb/democrats-mad-because-republicans-want-nasa-to-focus-on-space-exploration-not-global-warming WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 The Chinese don't seem to spend as much time focusing on minorities and class and racial Warfare as we do here in America. I think they are more in tune with making their country a world leader again while we seemed almost ashamed of it. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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One Post Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Too bad so many Americans seem anti-science, or we could be racing them back. Hell, this is a reason to vote for trump. He won't lose to China in a dick measuring contest. From what's out there it shouldn't be that hard. Pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 From what's out there it shouldn't be that hard. Pun intended. I guarantee there's no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 http://downtrend.com/71superb/democrats-mad-because-republicans-want-nasa-to-focus-on-space-exploration-not-global-warming WSS Right. The Democrats want to use NASA to help research climate change, which makes perfect sense. (Of course the whole thing as become so politicized that any research of the climate is going to be attacked, and those attacks will be fueled by the oil companies that stand to benefit from the status quo. While the Republicans want to use it to further space explorations, which also makes perfect sense. (Though I get the feeling the Reps mostly just want to use it as an extension of our military, as a way to show how mighty we are to other countries. But then again that's basically how we made a big leap the first time, so go for it) Maybe we just need to fund NASA more in general? Is there some place we might be wasting a lot of money now? Hmmm... what to cut, what to cut.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 The Chinese don't seem to spend as much time focusing on minorities and class and racial Warfare as we do here in America. I think they are more in tune with making their country a world leader again while we seemed almost ashamed of it. WSS 1) How much do you follow Chinese news? Do you know what their issues of the day are? 2) Good point, I wonder why China isn't focusing on minorities and race. I wonder why... If only we could be as socially progressive as China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 The Chinese don't seem to spend as much time focusing on minorities and class and racial Warfare as we do here in America. I think they are more in tune with making their country a world leader again while we seemed almost ashamed of it. WSS Speaking about the same country that values women as second class citzens. If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 1) How much do you follow Chinese news? Do you know what their issues of the day are? ☆As much as or more than you I would assume. Does it seem different to you?☆ 2) Good point, I wonder why China isn't focusing on minorities and race. I wonder why... ☆ because they're not really a republic or a democracy and they don't need to suck everybody's dick for votes. That would be my assumption.☆ If only we could be as socially progressive as China. If only. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Right. The Democrats want to use NASA to help research climate change, which makes perfect sense. (Of course the whole thing as become so politicized that any research of the climate is going to be attacked, and those attacks will be fueled by the oil companies that stand to benefit from the status quo. While the Republicans want to use it to further space explorations, which also makes perfect sense. (Though I get the feeling the Reps mostly just want to use it as an extension of our military, as a way to show how mighty we are to other countries. But then again that's basically how we made a big leap the first time, so go for it) Maybe we just need to fund NASA more in general? Is there some place we might be wasting a lot of money now? Hmmm... what to cut, what to cut.... Stuart We are the worlds policeman. Our presence in foreign countries is because those governments want us there. Most other nations military budget goes into defending themselves only. Are you that stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Stuart We are the worlds policeman. Our presence in foreign countries is because those governments want us there. Most other nations military budget goes into defending themselves only. Are you that stupid? They should put major league soccer in charge of global warming and let NASA worry about going to Mars. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I guarantee there's no problemI bet you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I bet you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The Chinese don't seem to spend as much time focusing on minorities and class and racial Warfare as we do here in America. I think they are more in tune with making their country a world leader again while we seemed almost ashamed of it. WSS The minorities in China are a very minute part of the country. Around 8.5%. So they don't have to pander to them very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hey you know what you do in China when you accidentally hit someone with ur car? Anybody? U back over them to make sure they're dead cause then u only owe a one time payout vs potentially multiple payments throughout someone's life. No I absolutely think we ought to model ourselves after the Chinese in every possible way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hey you know what you do in China when you accidentally hit someone with ur car? Anybody? U back over them to make sure they're dead cause then u only owe a one time payout vs potentially multiple payments throughout someone's life. No I absolutely think we ought to model ourselves after the Chinese in every possible way Yep for sure, some of that communism would go down a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I love how the Chinese are looked at with contempt one day for being commies, and then the next they're held up as some gold standard for their military or space exploration spending. Anybody remember what happened to the soviets in the 80's that forgot socialism was about the working class and went off trying to beat the west in spending on stupid shit that never worked right? When u print the worlds reserve you can at least for a time get away with hair brained Star Wars bullshit that was 2-3 decades away from the right technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Yep for sure, some of that communism would go down a treat. And this is coming from Bernie Sanders supporters. Got it. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 1) How much do you follow Chinese news? Do you know what their issues of the day are? 2) Good point, I wonder why China isn't focusing on minorities and race. I wonder why... If only we could be as socially progressive as China. You mean the Commie China isn't some social utopia? But I thought communism was an excellent form of government? Having everything controlled by government doesn't lead to Nirvana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 You mean the Commie China isn't some social utopia? But I thought communism was an excellent form of government? Having everything controlled by government doesn't lead to Nirvana? Who has ever advocated for communism on here? I'll wait. You take your time. I know you aren't the brightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Woodpecker ! Communism in the California Woodpecker (with one... sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/condor/v027n01/... Jan., 1925 COMMUNISM IN THE CALIFORNIA WOODPECKER 13 view. From the number of blows given, and from the time taken to remove the small Soviet Mind Control Weapon "The Woodpecker" www.usa-anti-communist.com/...Mind_Control...Woodpecker.php Soviet Mind Control Weapon "The Woodpecker" Posted on November 14, 2010. There are 2 videos here. The last video is about Soviet MKULTRA and advanced energy weapons ... Screening: The Russian Woodpecker -... victimsofcommunism.org/events/screening-the... Join us for a private screening of the documentary The Russian Woodpecker. This thrilling investigation by a Ukrainian artist to http://klamathbucketbrigade.org/Jud_WoodpeckerSmellsLikeARat071905.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Look fellas, we hate communism because communist countries were our enemies. Not because they are communists. We don't give a fuck if they are communists we give a fuck that they are dictatorships; militaristic and weaponized empires that would be happy to go to war with us. The reason we don't want it here, well at least the reason I don't want communism or socialism to spread any more than it is, is that I believe it's by and large a shitty system of government and human nature will fuck it up. And yes I know Human Nature has fucked up democracy and Republic too but... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 with democracy and a republic, you have the freedom to fix it. With communism and socialism... no chance of ever fixing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 with democracy and a republic, you have the freedom to fix it. With communism and socialism... no chance of ever fixing it. That's being a bit generous with those terms, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I ain't stingy one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 with democracy and a republic, you have the freedom to fix it. With communism and socialism... no chance of ever fixing it. I think that's a naive point of view. I think it would be great if that were true and Americans were all stalwart proud and brave and loved freedom , but the sad truth is the we are all subject to the pandering of the ruling class and have no more say in what goes on then the student council in a high school. Yes it pisses us off but most likely when the freedom is gone, it's gone and kids born into a less free Society take it as reality. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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