DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 This just isn't happening, this isn't a movie.. For God's sake, your examples of the revolutionary war in 1776 and even WWII pale in comparison to the armed world we live in today. You can dream of a Tom Cruise style action movie where you defend your world against oppressors, but that's not reality. The US government if it wanted to would roll over everyone and be laughing while doing it. I literally never said that one time, and nothing pisses me off more than when people put words in my mouth. Stop being a bitch and actually attempt to listen. No one is attempting to take away your second amendment rights. However, when a strong pattern of violence rears its head it's time to reconsider how we operate as a society. We can be an armed society that protects its constitutional rights without offering weapons with near instant mass casualty potential at essentially a drop of a hat. Let me ask you it this way-What is it gonna take? How many times can this happen, how many innocent people must die before you realize it's time to make logical changes? Sometimes the greater good calls upon making unpopular changes, and I'm happy to be part of this to stem the tide of innocent people being slaughtered. settle down Nancy. Don't pee in your depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 No one is attempting to take away your second amendment rights Little Miss Prissy Pants JRB ******************************************************************* Is the 2nd Amendment outdated? Is it necessary? - Quora https://www.quora.com/Is-the-2nd-Amendment-outdated-Is-it-nec... Quora The 2nd Amendment (the right to bear arms) was meant to give civilians power to ... The truth is that most gun owners want there to be some update of the ... thegovernment is just strong enough to support the people and cause them to ..... The only way to allow a ban to happen is to repeal the 2nd Amendment, Get 3/4s of ... Why It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment | Rolling Stone www.rollingstone.com/.../why-its-time-to-repeal-the-secon... Rolling Stone 4 days ago - Why Second Amendment must be repealed, and it is the essence of American ... We need a mass movement of those who are fed up with the .... arms, that pre-exists the constitution, shall not be infringed by the government. Repeal the Second Amendment - Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Repeal-the-Second-Amendment-3712493095... Repeal the Second Amendment shared CNN's video. 5 hrs · ... But polling from February shows that many Americans think the law already requires background ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 No one is attempting to take away your second amendment rights Little Miss Prissy Pants JRB ****************************************** https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/25/hillary-clinton-doesnt-want-to-repeal-the-2nd-amendment-but-in-1991-george-will-did/ Professor Demands Second Amendment Repeal | The Daily Caller dailycaller.com/.../another-professor-demands-repeal-of-... The Daily Caller Dec 31, 2014 - Another Professor Demands Repeal Of Second Amendment ... The latest polling data from Gallup suggests that just 26 percent of Americans ... We should repeal or amend the 2nd Amendment. - Daily Kos www.dailykos.com/.../-Try-saying-it-out-loud-We-should-repe... Daily Kos Dec 19, 2012 - Repeal or Amend the Second Amendment (RASA) ... For weeks, thepoll below reflected that about 70% of DailyKos members support repeal ... Hillary Clinton: Nationwide Gun Ban, Repeal of Second Amendment ... www.infowars.com/hillary-clinton-nationwide-gun-ban-repeal... Alex Jones Oct 18, 2015 - Hillary Clinton: Nationwide Gun Ban, Repeal of Second Amendment“Worth Considering” ... The presidential candidate attacked the Second Amendmentduring an Oct. 16 town hall meeting in which she was .... Poll. POLLS ... Opinion: Time to repeal second amendment? - CNN.com www.cnn.com/2013/04/12/.../obeidallah-podcast-gun-control/ CNN Apr 12, 2013 - Editor's note: Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is a political comedian and frequent commentator on various TV networks including CNN. Repeal the Second Amendment - Salon.com www.salon.com/2007/04/18/second_amendment/ Salon Apr 18, 2007 - Repeal the Second Amendment. The best way to reduce the odds of another blood bath like the one at Virginia Tech is to amend the ... Kurt Eichenwald: Let's Repeal the Second Amendment | Vanity Fair www.vanityfair.com/.../kurt-eichenwald-lets-repeal-second-a... Vanity Fair Jan 3, 2013 - As news of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary played out around the country, the mantra from the gun-rights folks was fairly consistent: ... Repealing the Second Amendment Would Make Us 'Better Than This' www.huffingtonpost.com/.../repealing-the-second-a... The Huffington Post Dec 18, 2012 - Yet again we are shocked. We hear the staccato bursts of semi-automatic fire echoing off the walls of a supposed place of safety. We register ... “Yes, and repeal the 2nd amendment” - ISideWith.com https://www.isidewith.com/poll/3507538/stance/368789828 Equal Pay poll. Equal... Gun Control poll. Gun... Abortion poll. Abortion ... “Yes, andrepeal the 2nd amendment”. From a Socialist in Bradley Gardens, NJ Rewrite the Second Amendment - The New York Times www.nytimes.com/.../rewrite-the-second-amendme... The New York Times Apr 5, 2013 - But we are left with the awkward, irresolvable phrasing of the Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a ... Could we ban guns by repealing Second Amendment? - USA Today www.usatoday.com/story/...second-amendment/5652095/ USA Today Feb 20, 2014 - The Supreme Court has twice ruled that the Second Amendment gives most Americans a right to own guns, so it's not surprising that people ... It is time to repeal the Second Amendment | MinnPost https://www.minnpost.com/.../it-time-repeal-second-amendment MinnPost Jan 8, 2013 - While we try to believe the Constitution is sacrosanct, it is in fact a "work in process" — and repealing the Second Amendment would serve our ... Repeal the Second Amendment - Lawyers, Guns & Money : Lawyers ... www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com › General 5 days ago - ... gristmill · Politics Theory Photography · Jacob T. Levy. My Other Blogs. You are here: Home » General » Repeal the Second Amendment ... Blog: 'Repeal the Second Amendment,' says law professor www.americanthinker.com/.../repeal_the_second_ame... American Thinker 2 days ago - 'Repeal the Second Amendment,' says law professor .... After correcting for bias, Clinton's national lead in CBS News poll evaporates · Does it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I can't believe there's people out there who want to get rid of the second amendment. If you think all our problems will just magically disappear and nobody will use guns, take a look at Europe, Mexico, Honduras, and all the other places where there is no 2nd amendment. The US does not have the highest mass shooting rate per capita - I believe that honor goes to Finland. Violent crime rates have gone down significantly and consistently since the 70s and beyond despite wage gaps and population numbers increasing. What's happened in terms of gun laws since the 70s? The NRA has lobbied for a ton of pro-gun legislation, so many states have concealed carry and reciprocity. The ones that have a ton of anti gun legislation aren't looking so hot, though. If you take a look at places like IL, MD, CA, What do they do? Just blame it on neighboring states for having pro gun laws like Indiana, Vermont. But wait you can't legally buy a gun from a state in which you are not a resident without sending it to a FFL in your state first. (Meaning you can buy a gun in Vermont if you are a NY resident - but they won't give it to you they'll have to ship it to your FFL) Or if you're undocumented you can't legally buy a gun, but they have a ton of them in CA and elsewhere. To me it looks like the strict gun laws don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 settle down Nancy. Don't pee in your depends.I thot it was a movie. GOSH DARNIT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 No one is attempting to take away your second amendment rights Little Miss Prissy Pants JRB ****************************************** Now, stfu with your dumb statements and smart ass replies. or, don't stfu, and tell us how you think that the AR-15 shoots more people than a semi-auto .22 rifle. You know how fast a new magazine can be locked in? You are emotionally knee jerking about an AR-15 that shoots semi-auto just like a .22 semi-auto. And, the same way a bb semi-auto rifle would shoot. Why not just support putting all people into straight jackets? Say, that way no nut job will ever be able to poison, gun down, bow and arrow, run over with car, fly plane into buildings, strangle, knife, machete, blow up with some kind of explosive, 2 x 4, numchuks, spear, whatever. There's a liberal idea for ya ! But then police would probably have to wear em...and doctors, every ...body. Why...eh...lol..because we just "have to DO something". (oh, I should probably delete this, jrb sissy pants might seriously consider supporting it in an emotional knee jerk episode...) But seriously, jrb, before you embarrass yourself that way, consider that nobody could eat, etc, and some nutjob would get loose some Houdini kind of way, and he would kill everybody in a "no-kill" zone. Man, it sucks stupidly to try to imitate the warped emoting of a liberal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 90% of what you do is emote cal. You just don't realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 "nobody wants to take yourall's guns away" FALSE. woody and jrb HATE that. I'm not emoting, just posting facts that show liberals that they are talking out of their rear ends on some issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 There are also people that want to round up and kill / export all Muslims in the US. We should probably take this seriously too. Those damn conservatives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 no proof, just emotional knee birdbrain knee jerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 There are also people that want to round up and kill / export all Muslims in the US. We should probably take this seriously too. Those damn conservatives! How many people want to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 . I think we as a society can realize that the right to bear arms is a fundamental right of all people, but that doesn't mean someone can go get a damn AR-15 without much more than a background check. I get it, this dude could have taken a lot of lives with just a handgun or otherwise lower capacity round firearm. But taking common sense measures like the one noted above is at least a start that, in my opinion, is a completely logical compromise to stem mass casualty events. jrb ***************************************** An AR-15 is the same action as a .22 semi-auto rifle. Pull the trigger once, fire once. Bigger bullet. I'm tired of you whiners talking like the AR-15 is an automatic weapon- as in, machine gun. STFU ? I thought your background checks were the answer,... eh? OF course not, but you libs wouldn't listen. So your next sissy step is to say that since what I said is true, you shouldn't be able to buy a .22 semi-auto rifle without much more than a background check. Perhaps you should read up on historical disarming of countries around the world. It is only "tin foil hat" because you are the creator of nonsense scenarios. It isn't joe redneck vs the entire army, air force, etc. It's a local oppression of rights- like a corrupt sheriff and deputies, like "Walking Tall" a good bit. Maybe a completely unwarranted martial law imposed. Even a martial law that is legit - corrupted by corrupt police/military troops, like in Kartina. A nice elderly lady got bullrushed, injured, because they were confiscating all weapons. If you don't think it can happen - you are wearing the tin foil hat, dummy. http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/08/secret-history-hurricane-katrina "Malik Rahim, a Vietnam veteran and longtime community activist, was one of the organizers of the Common Ground Collective, which quickly began dispensing basic aid and medical care in the first days after the hurricane. But far from aiding the relief workers, Rahim told me this week, the police and troops who began patrolling the streets treated them as criminals or "insurgents." African American men caught outside also ran the risk of crossing paths with roving vigilante patrols who shot at will, he says. In this dangerous environment, Common Ground began to rely on white volunteers to move through a city that had simply become too perilous for blacks." "Zeitoun was among thousands of people who were doing "Katrina time" after the storm. There was a complete suspension of all legal processes and there were no hearings, no courts for months and months and not enough folks in the judicial system really seemed all that concerned about it. Some human-rights activists and some attorneys, but otherwise it seemed to be the cost of doing business. It really could have only happened at that time; 2005 was just the exact meeting place of the Bush-era philosophy towards law enforcement and incarceration, their philosophy toward habeas corpus and their neglect and indifference to the plight of New Orleanians." *********************************** So, was this around the same time that Chris Kyle was perched on the Superdome, supposedly sniping looters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 There are also people that want to round up and kill / export all Muslims in the US. We should probably take this seriously too. Those damn conservatives! There's quite a severity gap between killing and "exporting". Well for most people anyway. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 How many people want to do that? Read this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 woodpecker translation "PECK PECK PECK...(nobody) PECK PECK PECK "burp" PECK PECK PECK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Read this board So Walter White is your example? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 So Walter White is your example? WSS Is that any worse than some random twitter or Facebook post? And those examples go further than just Walter on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Is that any worse than some random twitter or Facebook post? And those examples go further than just Walter on here I don't think Twitter or Facebook or the Browns board make a whole lot of difference one way or the other. And I would bet that most of the people that post the shit would never really back any of it up. On the other hand your buddy in Orlando seems to have made some noises on social media. Of course it would be inconceivable to track down and investigate everybody that says something ass holeish on the web. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Exactly. And yet we see them posted on here all of the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Exactly. And yet we see them posted on here all of the time... You are right but there is a small difference between the number of people Isis has murdered and Walter White or the Westminster Baptist Church. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 You are right but there is a small difference between the number of people Isis has murdered and Walter White or the Westminster Baptist Church. WSS Ok? I never attempted to compare the two. Is your new "debate" strategy just comparing two things I've never even brought up just to sound right? This is the second thread we've gone down that path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Woody - The subject is gun control efforts because of the excuse of terrorism. And, "nobody want to take all guns"... of course they do. There are many libs who want it, and they are making a mockery of efforts to stop terrorist violence by blaming guns owners/NRA. It was stated that the attempts by those in our gov to take steps to undermine our 2nd Amendment should be taken seriously. And you jumped in with a reference to WW and his off the wall comments about killing whoever.... Terrorism is REAL, and we've had several radical islamist attacks under obamao, and using those tragedies to further their agenda is critical and really lowly dishonest by anti-gun progressives in our gov. Bringing up walter like you did, does, in effect, say they are comparable, which is so foolish you just denied. I hope this explains the situation you put yourself in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 If they clean it up and use due process, then I think everybody - including the NRA, will have absolutely no problem prohibiting gun sales to people on the list. Is this your position on the no-fly list as well? That it needs to be subject to due process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 the orlando terrorist was taken off the watch list quickly. That is how obamao's fbi director and staff operate. islamists get precedence and special treatment. Obamao has made many statements regarding his favoritism and determination to protect islamists.... from the LA Times, of all places.... Ken J. Mascara, the sheriff of St. Lucie County in Florida, said Thursday that the man who carried out the massacre at an Orlando nightclub was removed from his job as a security guard at the county's courthouse in 2013 after he made inflammatory comments about women, Jews and the mass shooting at Ft. Hood. Here is Mascara's statement: "Omar Mateen was one of multiple contracted security guards that rotated through the St. Lucie County Courthouse as part of a contract with G4S Secure Solutions USA Inc. "In early 2013, our staff was made aware of inflammatory comments made by Mateen. Our courthouse supervisor first requested that G4S management transfer him out of the courthouse rotation permanently. That was immediately granted. Our agency then made the appropriate notifications to inform our federal partners. It was at this time that the FBI began an investigation into Mateen that was later deemed inconclusive." —Molly Hennessy-Fiske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Is this your position on the no-fly list as well? That it needs to be subject to due process? If you want to use it to restrict a constitutional right, then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 If someone is such a risk that you don't want them to fly or buy a gun, go do something about it. Dont just put them on a list and forget about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Last one. You got to go uptown bbedward, thats where all the hookers and whiskey is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Ok? I never attempted to compare the two. Is your new "debate" strategy just comparing two things I've never even brought up just to sound right? This is the second thread we've gone down that path. It seems to me you complain fairly often if someone makes a comparison that you don't think is on equal footing. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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