standish Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/27/...ds-with-browns/ Someone's gotta be leaving right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 just a camp arm and a super weak one at that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 wtf kind of signing is this? 4 qbs sounds really great, im wondering if we are going to move DA for pick next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Camps need arms. This is one of them. I don't think this signals the end of DA or Quinn here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooleeze Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Camps need arms. This is one of them. I don't think this signals the end of DA or Quinn here at all. If it's true, that means we have 5 QBs (Quinn, Anderson, Ratliff, Bartell, and how Harrell). That's a lot of QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 If it's true, that means we have 5 QBs (Quinn, Anderson, Ratliff, Bartell, and how Harrell). That's a lot of QBs. We must be expecting a rough camp this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 wtf kind of signing is this? 4 qbs sounds really great, im wondering if we are going to move DA for pick next year. It doesn't say anything. With 4 mini camps and training camp, there is a whole lot of throwing going on. You need 4 qbs to do all you want without burning up players arms in training camp. I saw we signed a kicker too...that doesn't mean we are replacing Dawson...it simply means we know he can't kick off 40 times a day if we expect him to still be kicking in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl4tinum Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 It's not about keeping them all, Mangini just wants to have THREE QB's beat out DA for the backup job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 We already have 4 qbs for mini camps. The only fa picks that are going to stick will be Norwood, and the OL from bama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 why did harell's stock drop so far? at the beginning of the season he was seen as one of the best qbs in college football. now he is undrafted and wasn't even talked about in the combine. what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 WR from Penn State Jordan Norwood, little guy with great hands, will be a great slot WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 We already have 4 qbs for mini camps. The only fa picks that are going to stick will be Norwood, and the OL from bama. Whatever the number, we need plenty of arms in all these camps. Balls are being thrown all over the place, and it is better to come for a real qb than some old coach tossing the thing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 If it's true, that means we have 5 QBs (Quinn, Anderson, Ratliff, Bartell, and how Harrell). That's a lot of QBs. I'm guessing Bartell isn't long for this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Whatever the number, we need plenty of arms in all these camps. Balls are being thrown all over the place, and it is better to come for a real qb than some old coach tossing the thing around. mini camp isnt a gay porno, "balls thrown all over the place" , it is mini camp, we need to know what we have with the other qbs ,4 is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 mini camp isnt a gay porno, "balls thrown all over the place" , it is mini camp, we need to know what we have with the other qbs ,4 is plenty. I agree....4 is a good number.....having one more doesn't hurt anything. A couple are there for drill work.....not necessarily running the first implementations of the new O. Quinn and Anderson for sure don't need to be out there throwing 150 balls a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Are all mini camps mandatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Are all mini camps mandatory? Only if you want to make the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Only if you want to make the team So if BE is a no show, should we assume he is going to push for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Are all mini camps mandatory? NFL rules allow for x amount of manditory and x amount that are voluntary. We'll know when they are manditory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Are all mini camps mandatory? I don't know....I think they are, but since we get 4(new coach) v the normal 2, possibly 2 are exempt from that status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 why did harell's stock drop so far? at the beginning of the season he was seen as one of the best qbs in college football. now he is undrafted and wasn't even talked about in the combine. what happened? He's a system QB. After the likes of Andre Ware, David Klingler, Kliff Kingsbury, etc.....no one really wants to take a shot. The one thing I do like about the kid is that he makes quick decisions. I think his arm is average and his athleticism is minimal otherwise. That said, Colt Brennan stuck with the Redskins last year and he was a similar QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedawgs Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 its more obvious now than ever,,quinn at 1 ,,ratliff at 2 ,,and harrell at 3[no worse than dorsey] ,,da will only be a distraction to the team and quinns development and mangini knows this ,,now that they have ratliff ,who mangini is comfortable with there won't be a vacuum at the qb position if quinn were to get injured ,,the writing is on the wall ,,they'll move da for what ever they can get being nobody bit on him during the draft,,imho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz1987 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 its more obvious now than ever,,quinn at 1 ,,ratliff at 2 ,,and harrell at 3[no worse than dorsey] ,,da will only be a distraction to the team and quinns development and mangini knows this ,,now that they have ratliff ,who mangini is comfortable with there won't be a vacuum at the qb position if quinn were to get injured ,,the writing is on the wall ,,they'll move da for what ever they can get being nobody bit on him during the draft,,imho... We can't have 3 QB's that have a total experience of 3 NFL games between them. Just isn't healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 He's a system QB. Seems to me all QBs are system QBs....Montana was a system QB. Put Peyton in a roll out system, he would flop, so yes....he is a system QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 If it's true, that means we have 5 QBs (Quinn, Anderson, Ratliff, Bartell, and how Harrell). That's a lot of QBs. We have 4 mini camps and 2 two are voluntary. UDFA players need someone to throw the ball to them. Never know when you can find a diamond in the rough. Last year RAC killed these guys in camp because he only had 3 guys. Quinn and Anderwon both had sore arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 We already have 4 qbs for mini camps. The only fa picks that are going to stick will be Norwood, and the OL from bama. So, maybe someone should tell the other guys to not bother to show up. There are all kind of UDFAs lining up on Sundays that guys like you never thought had a chance. One will be our starting safety and one is Cribbs. Oh and there's this guy in Pissburgh named Harrison. So, you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Seems to me all QBs are system QBs....Montana was a system QB. Put Peyton in a roll out system, he would flop, so yes....he is a system QB. That's a fair point. Perhaps, it is more accurate to say that some systems don't translate well into the NFL such as the spread/run and shoot. Colt Brennan managed to stick with the Redskins last year running a completely different offense than what he ran at Hawaii. Texas Tech QBs don't typically find even that kind of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 That's a fair point. Perhaps, it is more accurate to say that some systems don't translate well into the NFL such as the spread/run and shoot. Colt Brennan managed to stick with the Redskins last year running a completely different offense than what he ran at Hawaii. Texas Tech QBs don't typically find even that kind of success. And that would be a fair point as well. I might disagree some wouldn't translate well to the NFL, but they don't run them, so it does mean a certain skill set is more desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcrow1945 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 why did harell's stock drop so far? at the beginning of the season he was seen as one of the best qbs in college football. now he is undrafted and wasn't even talked about in the combine. what happened? Much like the kid from Hawaii last year, he's purely a system QB. I think Tebow will be the same, just as Alex Smith was under Meyer in Utah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I like Harrell. He has more NFL quarterback potential than most of the spread guys, including Daniel. He has nice height and decent arm strength, great accuracy downfield. He could be somebody's third quarterback. Like say, ours? After Quinn and Ratliff? Guess you missed the senior bowl...it was derrick anderson in the probowl...esk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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