Westside Steve Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Trump's Jerusalem decision promises upheaval https://search.app.goo.gl/btJX Shared from my Google feed He made the correct decision and here is the inevitable hit piece from the fake news media. I can't imagine that our resident anti-semites chirping. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 This is good and right. It is the historical capital of Israel. Merry Christmas to all my Christian and Jewish friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 There is a huge difference between defense and endorsement. IMO this was an unnecessary move. Yesterday Israel was our ally and they would have been tomorrow without this declaration. This didn't help our position in the Middle East but it could quite possibly hurt it. But then again we are going to get a great deal for Israel and a great deal for Palestine, smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 42 minutes ago, BaconHound said: There is a huge difference between defense and endorsement. IMO this was an unnecessary move. Yesterday Israel was our ally and they would have been tomorrow without this declaration. This didn't help our position in the Middle East but it could quite possibly hurt it. But then again we are going to get a great deal for Israel and a great deal for Palestine, smh. So we need to behave in an anti-israel way to appease their enemies? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: So we need to behave in an anti-israel way to appease their enemies? WSS Were we anti-Israel yesterday and I missed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, BaconHound said: Were we anti-Israel yesterday and I missed it? I might be misinformed but it seems like the last three presidents has spoken about moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Yet none of them have followed through. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: I might be misinformed but it seems like the last three presidents has spoken about moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Yet none of them have followed through. WSS https://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-again-waives-moving-us-embassy-to-jerusalem/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, BaconHound said: https://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-again-waives-moving-us-embassy-to-jerusalem/ Not surprising even though I didn't know that. Anyway Obama has never been a big fan of Israel. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Is any Muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 FLASHBACK: Obama makes a 2008 campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. He later broke that promise, used the U.N. as a political weapon against our ally Israel, & then gave the Palestinians $221 million. https://mobile.twitter.com/rightlynews/status/938506092379889664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 What President Trump needs to do, is to sign an executive order condemning Satan to eternal damnation in hell just so we can watch the main stream media and the Democrats come out in defense of Satan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: FLASHBACK: Obama makes a 2008 campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. He later broke that promise, used the U.N. as a political weapon against our ally Israel, & then gave the Palestinians $221 million. https://mobile.twitter.com/rightlynews/status/938506092379889664 And he was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 38 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Not surprising even though I didn't know that. Anyway Obama has never been a big fan of Israel. WSS He backpedaled on the issue and was wrong to do it. I'm not sure if anyone President has been a big fan of Israel even though some may say it publicly. Israel is a strategic partner that has caused us more grief than they solved. For my money we can't say we support democracy and turn our back on Israel. I do feel that as the Superpower we should be the one who's getting their butt kissed on a global level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Wrong in what way? That he should have recognized Jerusalem? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 30 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Wrong in what way? That he should have recognized Jerusalem? WSS I don't think he should have commented that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Wrong in what way? That he should have recognized Jerusalem? WSS Technically, West Jerusalem is the recognized capital of Israel, while East Jerusalem is the recognized capital of Palestine, according to the original 1947 UN General Assembly 181 - Partition Plan for Palestine. However, after the Israeli-Arab wars of the 60s and 70s, the entirety of Jerusalem has been self claimed by Israel. Of the UN member nations that recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, only the Czech Republic and, now, the US recognize Israel's claims to the entirety of Jerusalem. Every other UN nation still considers Jerusalem along the lines of the 1947 partition plan, and keep their embassies in Tel Aviv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Good for the Czechs. Don t attack a country if you aren't prepared to lose territory. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, jbluhm86 said: Technically, West Jerusalem is the recognized capital of Israel, while East Jerusalem is the recognized capital of Palestine, according to the original 1947 UN General Assembly 181 - Partition Plan for Palestine. However, after the Israeli-Arab wars of the 60s and 70s, the entirety of Jerusalem has been self claimed by Israel. Of the UN member nations that recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, only the Czech Republic and, now, the US recognize Israel's claims to the entirety of Jerusalem. Every other UN nation still considers Jerusalem along the lines of the 1947 partition plan, and keep their embassies in Tel Aviv. Except the "palestinians" refused to accept their own country - it was next to Israel. They forfeited having their own country. very stupid and self-defeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 From a diplomacy standpoint, it wasn't a wise move. Israel would have still been a strong ally without this move. There will be no meaningful blowback unless the Saudis make a stink. Historically, we tend to bark like a dog when they tell us to because of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: From a diplomacy standpoint, it wasn't a wise move. Israel would have still been a strong ally without this move. There will be no meaningful blowback unless the Saudis make a stink. Historically, we tend to bark like a dog when they tell us to because of oil. Actually I think the United States, the oil interests and the royal family have a symbiotic relationship beyond what anybody tells the Press. They can't just come out and say these are our friends because the insane portion of the population of the Middle East just loves to create havoc. And are always looking for an excuse. Kissing the butts of these Psychopaths hasn't seemed to be a Panacea. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Actually I think the United States, the oil interests and the royal family have a symbiotic relationship beyond what anybody tells the Press. They can't just come out and say these are our friends because the insane portion of the population of the Middle East just loves to create havoc. And are always looking for an excuse. Kissing the butts of these Psychopaths hasn't seemed to be a Panacea. WSS I just get really annoyed with seeing our presidents holding hands, bowing to, and face kissing to ingratiate themselves to some Middle East version of the Beverly Hillbillies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said: I just get really annoyed with seeing our presidents holding hands, bowing to, and face kissing to ingratiate themselves to some Middle East version of the Beverly Hillbillies. I get it but dealing with the Saudis seems a little bit different to me that dealing with the Iranians or Iraq. The royal family has to walk a pretty fine line to keep the mullahs out of the seats of power. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 previous wars and violence has always been because opposing forces want to destroy Israel - drive them into the sea. Simply put - their demand to own half of Palestine is nonsense - they will simply use that as a springboard to get the other half. Israel gave back the Sinai - same thing - it became a springboard for more war and more missiles, and tunnels over the borders, palestinian violence... arabic peoples have made their unwarranted and unjustified HATE legendary in their culture. They could have had peace in 1948 - but that isn't what they wanted - they don't want Jews to exist. It goes back to nazi-arabic terrorist connections. which is where the nazis got their hate of the Jews in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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