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1 minute ago, Canton Dawg said:

Don’t let facts get in the way of your opinions.

Hahahahaha. Yeah sure thing buddy. That's me, always defending religion. Definitely didn't just say Muslims commit more terror acts. Etc. 

I'm definitely the one on here putting opinions over facts haha

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53 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

Don’t let facts get in the way of your opinions.

He's been doing that since.... I don't know, since he started on the board?

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19 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

But sort of back to the subject I don't know how many of you guys are on Facebook but I saw a thread that even Disturbed me. Some guy posted I don't know about you but I shed no tears for those people, talking about the folks in the mosque.

I can't stand Muslim extremists Isis or Al-Qaeda or any of that shit but for the love of God these are just people. Just human beings that are probably going home with their kids to make dinner or to a movie or whatever the hell it is they do. It breaks my fucking heart. And it astonishes me that anybody would be happy about it. Anybody.

WSS

It is pretty prevalent actually. There are shitheels who think these poor people deserved it because Muslims somewhere else did something wrong. It is fucked.

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3 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

6000 Christians killed in Nigeria since January...I wonder why the MSM won’t mention it?

https://www.christianpost.com/news/pure-genocide-over-6000-nigerian-christians-slaughtered-mostly-women-children.html

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/nigeria

Guns in Nigeria are regulated by the President36

In Nigeria, civilians are not allowed to possess machine-guns, military rifles and handguns4041
 
Regulation of Automatic Weapons
In Nigeria, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited404113
 
Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Nigeria, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited4243
 
Regulation of Handguns
In Nigeria, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is prohibited404113

Law Regulates Long Guns

In Nigeria, civilian possession of rifles and shotguns is regulated by law13
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on and on it goes. Regulating/licensing/collecting fees/etc etc etc...

criminals do none of those things. It just makes decent citizens sitting ducks.

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1 hour ago, calfoxwc said:

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/nigeria

Guns in Nigeria are regulated by the President36

In Nigeria, civilians are not allowed to possess machine-guns, military rifles and handguns4041
 
Regulation of Automatic Weapons
In Nigeria, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited404113
 
Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Nigeria, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited4243
 
Regulation of Handguns
In Nigeria, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is prohibited404113

Law Regulates Long Guns

In Nigeria, civilian possession of rifles and shotguns is regulated by law13

Somalia has laws on paper too. 

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1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said:

6000 Christians killed in Nigeria since January...I wonder why the MSM won’t mention it?

https://www.christianpost.com/news/pure-genocide-over-6000-nigerian-christians-slaughtered-mostly-women-children.html

Boko Haram dusting people in Nigeria isn’t covered because no one gives a fuck what goes on in Africa. It is the hub of all things misery.

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1 hour ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

Boko Haram dusting people in Nigeria isn’t covered because no one gives a fuck what goes on in Africa. It is the hub of all things misery.

In other words, it’s a shithole.

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2 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

The bad actions of one minority (or at least a minority to us) get held over all of that minority.

When it's a white guy it's just a one off crazy person. 

Read this, and you decide. ..

COMPARE: Media Reaction To Fusion Nightclub Terror Attack Vs Christchurch Terror Attack

Watching the media and establishment reaction to the Christchurch New Zealand has been a sight to behold.

When a Muslim called 911 to publicly pledge allegiance to ISIS moments before slaughtering 49 gay people in the Pulse Nightclub massacre, the media reaction was one of caution. We mustn’t jump to any conclusions about the motives. We mustn’t blame a whole community for the actions of an individual. We mustn’t draw any conclusions about the object of the shooters religious obsessions.

In the case of Omar Mateen, his motive wasn’t radical Islam even though he pledged allegiance to ISIS. No, his motive was big bad evil America killing too many civilians. Just ask Huffington Post:

The gunman who slaughtered 49 people in an Orlando, Florida, nightclub told a police negotiator the attack was a protest against U.S. bombings of Islamic State targets in Iraq and Syria.

”You have to tell the U.S. government to stop bombing. They are killing too many children. They are killing too many women, okay,” gunman Omar Mateen told a police negotiator by phone during the June attack, hours before the killer died in a shootout with police.

In his conversations with the police negotiator, Mateen repeatedly complained about civilians killed by U.S. airstrikes in Syria and Iraq. “What am I to do when my people are getting killed over there,” he said.

When the negotiator asked him to identify himself, Mateen answered, “My name is Islamic soldier,” and, “Call me Mujahideen. Call me the solider of God.” He said he’d pledged allegiance to the Islamic State and expressed admiration for one of the brothers who carried out the deadly Boston Marathon bombing in 2013.

Investigators concluded later that there was no direct link between ISIS and the assault on Pulse, a gay nightclub.”

The jihadi literally spells it out for them:

The attack occurred during the holy month of Ramadan. Mateen told the negotiator that he was adhering to religious tradition.

So…despite the fact that he openly declared his motives and allegiance, that’s not what it was at all. There was no connection to ISIS. Nothing to see here. Move along.

But when a white man walks into a mosque in Christchurch New Zealand and slaughters 50 muslims, his motives are immediately known, interpreted, and extrapolated onto a larger community.

Huffpo has thrown all caution out the window for the Christchurch, NZ terror attack.

 

The New Zealand Shooter’s Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress

That’s pretty rich considering the intolerance coming from Congress has all been radical Muslims attacking Jews. But apparently it’s Republican rhetoric that’s in need of examination according to HuffPo.

Mass Shooters Have Exploited The Internet For Years. New Zealand Took It To A New Level.

Omar Mateen didn’t take Jihad’s hate-filled, angry ideology and make it viral?

This is just Huffington Post. You can do this comparison and receive similar results at almost any news organization in the country.

And when a Muslim slaughters innocent people, the community is immediately warned not to incite a backlash.

Orlando Muslims Grapple With Backlash Tied To Pulse Nightclub Gunman

US Muslim groups condemn Orlando nightclub shooting amid fears of backlash

In the case of the Christchurch terror attack, there are no warnings of caution against a backlash. On the contrary, the media and institutional left seem hell bent on fostering one.

Also, after a muslim commits an act of terror on American soil, like the one on 9/11, Americans are immediately warned that to sacrifice any freedom for security is a betrayal of the American dream.

Here’s the ACLU on not sacrificing freedom when a Muslim slaughters innocent people:

America faces a crucial test.  That test is whether we – the political descendents of Jefferson and Madison, and citizens of the world’s oldest democracy – have the confidence, ingenuity and commitment to secure our safety without sacrificing our liberty.

Today, the left is demanding the shuttering of any chat board the Christchurch terrorist might’ve hung out. They don’t even want to debate freedom vs security. They just want to punish everyone who might identify with a community this terrorist identified with.

If anyone demanded the closing of a mosque frequented by the Boston Marathon bombers, or Omar Mateen, there’d be hell to pay from the ACLU.

Why are atrocities committed by a Muslim given the narrowest, velvet glove treatment while terrorism committed by a white guy is instantly interpreted against a wider community?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/compare-media-reaction-to-fusion-nightclub-terror-attack-vs-christchurch-terror-attack/

 

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27 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Only if someone radicalizes those pitbulls 

But how they got that way doesn't make any difference. You're not using the old 'look-what-you-made-me-do' defense are you? 

Because if you are blaming Trump for the Australian shooter is pretty lame shit. Not that I expect better A lot of the time but...

WSS

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2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

But how they got that way doesn't make any difference. You're not using the old 'look-what-you-made-me-do' defense are you? 

Because if you are blaming Trump for the Australian shooter is pretty lame shit. Not that I expect better A lot of the time but...

WSS

If you think I'm blaming Trump for a mass shooting in new Zealand then I think I can end this right here 

 

Only your crazy buddies on this board would make a claim along those lines

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7 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

If you think I'm blaming Trump for a mass shooting in new Zealand then I think I can end this right here 

Not Trump directly but you were going on and on about 4chan or 8 Chan whatever.

And as usual it seems you are attempting to draw a moral equivalent between white supremacists or Christians and Muslim extremists. I think the terrorism rate has to be at least 1000 to 1. If that's not the exact number it's a huge disparity.

And back to the point I don't know any of the people in me mosque so I have no idea how many we're okay with 911. Probably some groups are softer on different things than others. Maybe even some of the Muslims that I call friends were lesss outraged than many of us, but that doesn't make me any less angry about them being murdered.

And just for the record the reason people indoctrinate pitbulls it's because they are naturally aggressive. That's why no one is afraid of sheep.

WSS

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On 3/17/2019 at 4:49 PM, Canton Dawg said:

Read this, and you decide. ..

COMPARE: Media Reaction To Fusion Nightclub Terror Attack Vs Christchurch Terror Attack

Watching the media and establishment reaction to the Christchurch New Zealand has been a sight to behold.

When a Muslim called 911 to publicly pledge allegiance to ISIS moments before slaughtering 49 gay people in the Pulse Nightclub massacre, the media reaction was one of caution. We mustn’t jump to any conclusions about the motives. We mustn’t blame a whole community for the actions of an individual. We mustn’t draw any conclusions about the object of the shooters religious obsessions.

In the case of Omar Mateen, his motive wasn’t radical Islam even though he pledged allegiance to ISIS. No, his motive was big bad evil America killing too many civilians. Just ask Huffington Post:

The gunman who slaughtered 49 people in an Orlando, Florida, nightclub told a police negotiator the attack was a protest against U.S. bombings of Islamic State targets in Iraq and Syria.

”You have to tell the U.S. government to stop bombing. They are killing too many children. They are killing too many women, okay,” gunman Omar Mateen told a police negotiator by phone during the June attack, hours before the killer died in a shootout with police.

In his conversations with the police negotiator, Mateen repeatedly complained about civilians killed by U.S. airstrikes in Syria and Iraq. “What am I to do when my people are getting killed over there,” he said.

When the negotiator asked him to identify himself, Mateen answered, “My name is Islamic soldier,” and, “Call me Mujahideen. Call me the solider of God.” He said he’d pledged allegiance to the Islamic State and expressed admiration for one of the brothers who carried out the deadly Boston Marathon bombing in 2013.

Investigators concluded later that there was no direct link between ISIS and the assault on Pulse, a gay nightclub.”

The jihadi literally spells it out for them:

The attack occurred during the holy month of Ramadan. Mateen told the negotiator that he was adhering to religious tradition.

So…despite the fact that he openly declared his motives and allegiance, that’s not what it was at all. There was no connection to ISIS. Nothing to see here. Move along.

But when a white man walks into a mosque in Christchurch New Zealand and slaughters 50 muslims, his motives are immediately known, interpreted, and extrapolated onto a larger community.

Huffpo has thrown all caution out the window for the Christchurch, NZ terror attack.

 

The New Zealand Shooter’s Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress

That’s pretty rich considering the intolerance coming from Congress has all been radical Muslims attacking Jews. But apparently it’s Republican rhetoric that’s in need of examination according to HuffPo.

Mass Shooters Have Exploited The Internet For Years. New Zealand Took It To A New Level.

Omar Mateen didn’t take Jihad’s hate-filled, angry ideology and make it viral?

This is just Huffington Post. You can do this comparison and receive similar results at almost any news organization in the country.

And when a Muslim slaughters innocent people, the community is immediately warned not to incite a backlash.

Orlando Muslims Grapple With Backlash Tied To Pulse Nightclub Gunman

US Muslim groups condemn Orlando nightclub shooting amid fears of backlash

In the case of the Christchurch terror attack, there are no warnings of caution against a backlash. On the contrary, the media and institutional left seem hell bent on fostering one.

Also, after a muslim commits an act of terror on American soil, like the one on 9/11, Americans are immediately warned that to sacrifice any freedom for security is a betrayal of the American dream.

Here’s the ACLU on not sacrificing freedom when a Muslim slaughters innocent people:

America faces a crucial test.  That test is whether we – the political descendents of Jefferson and Madison, and citizens of the world’s oldest democracy – have the confidence, ingenuity and commitment to secure our safety without sacrificing our liberty.

Today, the left is demanding the shuttering of any chat board the Christchurch terrorist might’ve hung out. They don’t even want to debate freedom vs security. They just want to punish everyone who might identify with a community this terrorist identified with.

If anyone demanded the closing of a mosque frequented by the Boston Marathon bombers, or Omar Mateen, there’d be hell to pay from the ACLU.

Why are atrocities committed by a Muslim given the narrowest, velvet glove treatment while terrorism committed by a white guy is instantly interpreted against a wider community?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/03/compare-media-reaction-to-fusion-nightclub-terror-attack-vs-christchurch-terror-attack/

 

I'll agree here. I obviously have sympathy for the immediate victims and their families....but I have no sympathy for the larger Muslim community as I would also not have any sympathy for Christian's as a whole if it had been a church.

I won't be compelled to offer sympathies to people I "know" where like "meh" after 50 LGBT people got shot up in Orlando. After Orlando they were like that's just one crazy mofo don't link him with us. But when they get attacked......

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