JAFBF Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2019/03/25/stunning-reversal-key-greenland-glacier-growing-again/xjrUMkTNp75Po9WeDPXBlM/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clevfan4life Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, JAFBF said: https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2019/03/25/stunning-reversal-key-greenland-glacier-growing-again/xjrUMkTNp75Po9WeDPXBlM/story.html just research....it isnt hard... water has kept coming, according to data from NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) mission and other sources. In a new paper, Khazendar and his team have identified the cause - and, yes, it is only temporary. The team traced the current using observations and a NASA-developed ocean modelling system to fill in the gaps in the data. The cooling began in the North Atlantic Ocean, 966 kilometres (600 miles) south of the glacier, triggered by a climate pattern called the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO): every five to 20 years, atmospheric pressure at sea level fluctuates, ultimately resulting in either warming or cooling, which is then carried northward by the ocean currents up the southwestern coast of Greenland. In 2016, the water in this current was cooler by 1.5 degrees Celsius, cooling the Atlantic around Greenland by about 1 degree Celsius; this made its way to the mouth of Jakobshavn, allowing the ice to thicken. Seems like such a tiny increment for such a big effect, doesn't it? Even the researchers were surprised. "We didn't think the ocean could be that important," OMG principal investigator Josh Willis of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory told National Geographic. But, inevitably, the pendulum will swing back, and the glacier will shrink again. Meanwhile, the rest of Greenland's ice sheet is still receding; and, even if this slight growth were to continue, it couldn't possibly make up for the intense losses experienced so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 wait - texsag actually referenced a link to the subject he's making. hot freakin willy nillies ! but he's still wrong on his basic premise, as always...? Key Greenland glacier growing again after shrinking for years, NASA ... https://www.nbcnews.com/.../key-greenland-glacier-growing-again-after-shrinking-ye... Mar 25, 2019 - A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and ... temperature is a bigger player in glacier retreats and advances than ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 yep. woody and texsag - wrong on "mmgw" Climate shock: 90 percent of the world's glaciers are GROWING | PSI Intl https://principia-scientific.org/climate-shock-90-percent-worlds-glaciers-growing/ Nov 26, 2016 - “That is what is SUPPOSED to happen when there is global warming,” says @Smaulgld. “Glaciers get bigger unless they melt -that's global ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 pick a source. Here's another one: Big U-turn: Key melting Greenland glacier is growing again - Phys.org https://phys.org › Earth › Earth Sciences Mar 25, 2019 - A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and snow masses on Earth is growing again, a new NASA study finds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Truth in advertising. The glaciers there are are down by 39% on average in overall size in the past 50 years. https://www.usgs.gov/centers/norock/science/retreat-glaciers-glacier-national-park?qt-science_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects I post a vid explaining that if we stopped all CO2 emissions nothing would change for 2000yrs. You respond by suggesting I should go visit some glaciers. I asked you what good that would do. and you reply with this. Are you out of your mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: just research....it isnt hard... water has kept coming, according to data from NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) mission and other sources. In a new paper, Khazendar and his team have identified the cause - and, yes, it is only temporary. The team traced the current using observations and a NASA-developed ocean modelling system to fill in the gaps in the data. The cooling began in the North Atlantic Ocean, 966 kilometres (600 miles) south of the glacier, triggered by a climate pattern called the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO): every five to 20 years, atmospheric pressure at sea level fluctuates, ultimately resulting in either warming or cooling, which is then carried northward by the ocean currents up the southwestern coast of Greenland. In 2016, the water in this current was cooler by 1.5 degrees Celsius, cooling the Atlantic around Greenland by about 1 degree Celsius; this made its way to the mouth of Jakobshavn, allowing the ice to thicken. Seems like such a tiny increment for such a big effect, doesn't it? Even the researchers were surprised. "We didn't think the ocean could be that important," OMG principal investigator Josh Willis of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory told National Geographic. But, inevitably, the pendulum will swing back, and the glacier will shrink again. Meanwhile, the rest of Greenland's ice sheet is still receding; and, even if this slight growth were to continue, it couldn't possibly make up for the intense losses experienced so far. ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gorka said: I post a vid explaining that if we stopped all CO2 emissions nothing would change for 2000yrs. You respond by suggesting I should go visit some glaciers. I asked you what good that would do. and you reply with this. Are you out of your mind? Texsag never quits his nonsense. Weird, outlandish claims right out of somewhere crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: just research....it isnt hard... water has kept coming, according to data from NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) mission and other sources. The cooling began in the North Atlantic Ocean, 966 kilometres (600 miles) south of the glacier, triggered by a climate pattern called the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO): every five to 20 years, atmospheric pressure at sea level fluctuates, ultimately resulting in either warming or cooling, which is then carried northward by the ocean currents up the southwestern coast of Greenland. "We didn't think the ocean could be that important," OMG principal investigator Josh Willis of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory told National Geographic. But, inevitably, the pendulum will swing back, and the glacier will shrink again.Meanwhile, the rest of Greenland's ice sheet is still receding; and, even if this slight growth were to continue, it couldn't possibly make up for the intense losses experienced so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemist Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Well maybe the retreating ice will expose even more ancient Viking ruins from when they lived and farmed on Greenland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Gorka said: I post a vid explaining that if we stopped all CO2 emissions nothing would change for 2000yrs. You respond by suggesting I should go visit some glaciers. I asked you what good that would do. and you reply with this. Are you out of your mind? No your initial response was "screw that" which is different from the closing statement in the video which was "stop digging". So if "screw that" is your position, then go visit the receding glaciers now before they're gone. Or work on the CO2 gobbling technology that he suggested might speed up a reversal if done soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 7 hours ago, JAFBF said: So you don't think a Cornell educated mechanical engineer had to take a few science classes along the way as part of the curriculum and is also smart enough to be self taught as well? Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: So you don't think a Cornell educated mechanical engineer had to take a few science classes along the way as part of the curriculum and is also smart enough to be self taught as well? Very interesting. Just think...neither of them are a climatologist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 5 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: No your initial response was "screw that" which is different from the closing statement in the video which was "stop digging". So if "screw that" is your position, then go visit the receding glaciers now before they're gone. Or work on the CO2 gobbling technology that he suggested might speed up a reversal if done soon enough. OK..got it. Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Just think...neither of them are a climatologist. no but nye understands the scientific process and knows when its being properly followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemist Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: no but nye understands the scientific process and knows when its being properly followed. Then he should understand that bias (climategate) should not be inserted into the scientific process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Chemist said: Then he should understand that bias (climategate) should not be inserted into the scientific process. yeah....and he does. ☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: no but nye understands the scientific process and knows when its being properly followed. Yes, because he’s had a TV show he knows everything...got it genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 And yet Nye is still more qualified than the majority of the experts listed on that fabled petition of "thousands of scientists" that disagree with man-made climate change. That list Cysko or I could be on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Yes, because he’s had a TV show he knows everything...got it genius. no...because he has a science degree and its what ur taught year one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said: no...because he has a science degree and its what ur taught year one. Mechanical engineering actually... WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Mechanical engineering actually... WSS He either has a B.S. (bachelors of science) or a B.S.E. (bachelors of science in engineering). It isn't a degree on climatology or anything but through all of the foundational courses you'll get a better understanding of science than the vast majority of Americans. Then the whole degree really is problem solving, thinking analytically, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gorka Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: He either has a B.S. (bachelors of science) or a B.S.E. (bachelors of science in engineering). It isn't a degree on climatology or anything but through all of the foundational courses you'll get a better understanding of science than the vast majority of Americans. Then the whole degree really is problem solving, thinking analytically, etc. Which doesn't qualify him as a scientist. He is a "science communicator". Nothing more. William Sanford Nye (born November 27, 1955), popularly known as Bill Nye the Science Guy, is an American science communicator, television presenter, and mechanical engineer. What the guy does is regurgitates what has already been researched or discovered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Mechanical engineering actually... WSS and thats a science degree. Ur getting physics, math and chemistry shoved way up ur ass year 1. And yes, engineers follow the scientific process.....smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: and thats a science degree. Ur getting physics, math and chemistry shoved way up ur ass year 1. And yes, engineers follow the scientific process.....smh Lies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Lies! i know...u guys just wing it..admit it. Its sheer luck first energy hasnt imploded yet during a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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