Now scumbucket not much of a human being Tlaib demands $20 minimum wage

[hoorta]

2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Also by paying servers a bunch of money you're probably adding ten bucks why to they cost of every meal. Depending on how many tables and the cost of the dinner.

Plus tell any good bartender he gets no more tips but you're raising his salary to 15 bucks an hour, or 20.

WSS

Pretty  much it Steve. You raise wages, the price of your  meal has to  go up proportionally.  To my mind that = less  customers. 

Yeah, I  tip  my favorite  bartender  pretty  heavy, more than  the others at The Club. Does it help that she's young, personable, and cute? Sure. But she also knows what wine I want as soon as I  sit down. I also know she's a  single mom with  two young kids. 

1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

Guarantee you waitresses would much rather have the low pay plus tips.  They can make much better money.  They also are 'supposed' to give a percentage to the bus boys and dishwashers.  The dishwashers probably work harder than anyone else.

Exactly. The better the  restaurant, in general the better the wait staff. And you can make a  decent  living off of tips. So if you're  working at Longhorn, aim higher. My sister did that. Moving up from Outback. You don't  see any $600 dollar tabs there. 

Waiters at St. Elmo's (best steakhouse in Indy, favorite of Peyton Manning and most of the Colts) ditto Bern's in Tampa, most have been  there 20 years  or longer. When there's  an opening at a place like  that the competition is  fierce. I know  for a fact at the  place I mentioned in my reply to Steve the  waitresses pull  in over $50,000 a year in tips.

[calfoxwc]

7 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

This is also glossing over the fact that Cal is so whipped by Trump that he called Omar "scumbucket not much of a human being"

Hilarious how easily him and others are led around 

She is all in on falsely stirring up racial and religious hell on our country, she loves the violence by the "palestinians", hates Israel, hates America, hates everything about us,

you keep smarting off, woodypeckerhead, but even now, you can't muster up one opinion about her and the other three's nasty controversial hate-mongering statements to the media.

You're just a coward. You squawk against anyone who is conservative, but you won't criticize anything on the left side of things, and you laugh about favoring pba because...well, I don't know why. You're a sick bird.

[htownbrown]

The restaurant business is very up and down.  Mondays might suck and Fridays may be packed, you never know.  It offers a bit of stability to the lower end of the restaurant business, but for the flip side it's a shot to the gut.  This will hurt them.

Just think if your an owner, say you have 5 waitresses at a small Italian restaurant.  At least one has to go and the remaining have to work harder to cover the slack left behind for probably less money in the end.

It's not like this country has a shortage of waiters.  If it's that hard to make it, get out of the industry.

[Vambo]

4 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

So then why isn't EVERY profession tipped?

Tips are incentives if you give good service the customer leaves you X amount as tip (incentive) if you work say in a factory your tip is replace by insurance, raises, bonuses,  promotions and vacation time.

[MLD Woody]

13 minutes ago, htownbrown said:

 

Just think if your an owner, say you have 5 waitresses at a small Italian restaurant.  At least one has to go and the remaining have to work harder to cover the slack left behind for probably less money in the end.

 

Why?

[htownbrown]

2 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Why?

Most waiters make around $2 an hour for a wage.  $20 an hour is 10x that amount.  It's not hard to figure out.

[Vambo]

6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Why?

Sanders said field organizers, who are the lowest-ranking members of a presidential campaign and are typically in their 20s, make $36,000 a year with 100% employer-paid health care, as well as paid vacation and sick leave.

For a staffer working 40 hours a week, that comes out to about $17 an hour. But 40-hour workweeks on presidential campaigns are rare. Sanders said the campaign will limit the number of hours staffers work to 42 or 43 each week to ensure they're making the equivalent of $15 an hour.

[MLD Woody]

3 hours ago, htownbrown said:

Most waiters make around $2 an hour for a wage.  $20 an hour is 10x that amount.  It's not hard to figure out.

But the customer is already paying that amount as a tip. The prices on good can be raised, with tips removed. Customers aren't paying more and employers aren't paying employees more. 

[htownbrown]

17 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

But the customer is already paying that amount as a tip. The prices on good can be raised, with tips removed. Customers aren't paying more and employers aren't paying employees more. 

Your making some assumptions that may not be true to justify this idea.

Are you saying my experience from place to place will be the same?  The same tip (%) is warranted everywhere?

What if I order nothing, but water with chips and salsa that cost maybe $5 (or maybe $7 if this nonsense passes).........suddenly the restaurant owner must pay this person $20 an hour for however long I sit there while they refill my water and chips?  The owner would be paying for me to eat.

The scenarios are limitless as I think through them actually......it's not as simple as you want it to be.

Low end restaurants can't afford this and high end employees will suffer, but whatever if it makes you feel better.

I look at this as the government trying to stabilize a tax base, as tipped jobs are hard to track wages, at least accurately.

[hoorta]

13 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

She is all in on falsely stirring up racial and religious hell on our country, she loves the violence by the "palestinians", hates Israel, hates America, hates everything about us,

you keep smarting off, woodypeckerhead, but even now, you can't muster up one opinion about her and the other three's nasty controversial hate-mongering statements to the media.

You're just a coward. You squawk against anyone who is conservative, but you won't criticize anything on the left side of things, and you laugh about favoring pba because...well, I don't know why. You're a sick bird.

I won't even go that far Cal. But if you even casually peruse her agenda, she's so far left, it's obvious it's one step away from socialism. 

[hoorta]

10 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

But the customer is already paying that amount as a tip. The prices on good can be raised, with tips removed. Customers aren't paying more and employers aren't paying employees more. 

That's a fantasy Woody. No we're not, as far as tips are concerned. Period. htown put it very well. The low end places (Longhorn, Texas Roadhouse) would not survive if they had to pay everyone $20 an hour. And at the very high end places, the waiters already effectively make more than $20 an hour. 

And if the service sucks really bad, you can still stiff the waiter. We almost did at a 4 Star restaurant on New Year's Eve for some incredibly lousy service. 

9 hours ago, htownbrown said:

Your making some assumptions that may not be true to justify this idea.

I look at this as the government trying to stabilize a tax base, as tipped jobs are hard to track wages, at least accurately.

True dat. One of my favorite waitresses at my favorite joint finally got drilled by the IRS for not reporting um, around $150,000 in tip income. (we know what those honest employees at the same place were reporting, honey- you've been busted)