Dutch Oven Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 THIS is the reason I thought Kyler Murray made a mistake walking away from baseball. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, jbluhm86 said: I mean, some Browns fans booed Derek Anderson while he was being carted off the field, so... Thought that was Tim Couch? Most Browns fans thought Brady Quinn was going to be a NFL Super Star and thought D.A. was standing in his way, Anderson was only a tad bit better than Quinn, We won 10 games thanks to Anderson then he fell flat on his face the very next year. Not lets never bring up his name again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Canton Mike said: The saddest part of this whole thing is that his own (alleged) fans boo'd him. That's a HUGE black eye for the Colts. Mike Definitely shitty and a terrible look for the fans... ... though I'm not so sure we wouldn't have some posters on here doing the same thing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 We have booed our own players, we have booed our entire team at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Good for the Dolts. This isn’t about Luck but the way they got him. They intentionally tanked a season to get him. Then they took care of him by giving him a lousy team and expecting him to carry them solo. Fuck em! They got what they deserve. Go Karma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 This sucks. It doesn't matter if you are a Colts fan or not, having elite players retiring way earlier than expected doesn't do any good to the NFL. Luck was a quaterback who made up for the shitty rosters the Colts had for many years. Not only that, he also was the nicest guy and a Independence War veteran. Plus he has an Architecture degree Thee Colts and the league will surely miss him. I wish him the best in his future endeavours. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, Nero said: This sucks. It doesn't matter if you are a Colts fan or not, having elite players retiring way earlier than expected doesn't do any good to the NFL. Luck was a quaterback who made up for the shitty rosters the Colts had for many years. Not only that, he also was the nicest guy and a Independence War veteran. Plus he has an Architecture degree Thee Colts and the league will surely miss him. I wish him the best in his future endeavours. You could also say that Luck was a victim of those same shitty rosters. They took care of him like I take care of worn out sneakers. I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, hoorta said: Hey, we threw snowballs at Santa Claus. I was all in on that until I found out from my kids I was Santa Claus.🎅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Players leaving well before they have to isn’t some unprecedented thing, but I have no doubt this type of thing will happen more and more. hell, JT albeit a bit older could have easily come back for several more years but chose against it. It won’t shock me at all to see guys play through their 2nd contract and call it quits around 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 hours ago, jbluhm86 said: I mean, some Browns fans booed Derek Anderson while he was being carted off the field, so... If it makes you feel any better some fans booed him when he was running onto the field too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 So do they win a game this season? Sit the vets, lose every game and pick number one. Sounds like the irsay way. Sneak and cheat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: Players leaving well before they have to isn’t some unprecedented thing, but I have no doubt this type of thing will happen more and more. hell, JT albeit a bit older could have easily come back for several more years but chose against it. It won’t shock me at all to see guys play through their 2nd contract and call it quits around 30. According to the NFLPA, the average career is 3.3 years. Looks like he’ll be a full time caveman for geico now... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I loved the way he played the game, a real throwback. Don't let Colts fans off the hook because Browns fan booed struggling players and threw shit at refs that just screwed them, this would be like Browns fans booing Bernie Kosar or Joe Thomas when they couldnt play anymore ... it shocks me that they booed. However, the BIG news is we just lost one of the main contenders to win the AFC, odds just got a little better for all of the contenders... including the young upstarts. Zombo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, flyingfooldoug said: So do they win a game this season? Sit the vets, lose every game and pick number one. Sounds like the irsay way. Sneak and cheat And yet ironically we had Hue who was able to lasso two number 1's in a row by only being completely incompetent. 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, flyingfooldoug said: So do they win a game this season? Sit the vets, lose every game and pick number one. Sounds like the irsay way. Sneak and cheat You do realize that is exactly what the Browns did, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Nero said: This sucks. It doesn't matter if you are a Colts fan or not, having elite players retiring way earlier than expected doesn't do any good to the NFL. Luck was a quaterback who made up for the shitty rosters the Colts had for many years. Not only that, he also was the nicest guy and a Independence War veteran. Plus he has an Architecture degree Thee Colts and the league will surely miss him. I wish him the best in his future endeavours. Exactly! The FO there almost deserves this for the number of years they refused to protect the guy upfront. That all took a cumulative toll on his body. And you know what? He never complained about it or lost composure in the pocket or while eluding pressure on the improvise out of the pocket. In fact, sometimes you could hear him on audio/video telling someone that just clobbered him "GREAT HIT." As much as we're Cleveland Browns fans, a lot of us are fans of the game that really appreciate a guy like this. JJ Watt had a very respectful and understanding perspective on it today on ESPN when they aired comments from players and coaches around the league. And then they showed fans in the crowd as he walked off the field the last time PROUD to show him they're taking off their #12 jersey in disgust. Not for nothing, but social media really sucks sometimes especially when they leak something like this when he had a presser planned for a more appropriate time to air it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Definitely shitty and a terrible look for the fans... ... though I'm not so sure we wouldn't have some posters on here doing the same thing... I was thinking the same exact thing when I just saw it on ESPN... In fact, I have a feeling we'd have the same short list of posters on here who would pull the same stunt, Woody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: You do realize that is exactly what the Browns did, right? I didn’t. Honestly. I thought the coaching was terrible enough and the players weren’t developed enough to actually win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Comeonman said: I didn’t. Honestly. I thought the coaching was terrible enough and the players weren’t developed enough to actually win games. Belichick wasn't winning more than 5 or 6 games total in 2016 and 2017 with those rosters. Practically every veteran on the roster was jettisoned. This was a tank job, pure and simple. Hue simply was a horrible pick to be a head coach of a young team that needed developed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Belichick wasn't winning more than 5 or 6 games total in 2016 and 2017 with those rosters. Practically every veteran on the roster was jettisoned. This was a tank job, pure and simple. Hue simply was a horrible pick to be a head coach of a young team that needed developed. In fact, when Belichick actually had a team like you speak of here in 91 - he went 6-10. He didn't get us to a winning record and the playoffs until his 4th year here. It doesn't matter how good he is at gridiron chess - he didn't beat people when he could only attack them exclusively with pawns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 The Colts fan base is full of weird folks..With a owner that should not run a Wendy's.. Thanks to most Colts fans, And I will be just fine... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, jrb12711 said: Players leaving well before they have to isn’t some unprecedented thing, but I have no doubt this type of thing will happen more and more. hell, JT albeit a bit older could have easily come back for several more years but chose against it. It won’t shock me at all to see guys play through their 2nd contract and call it quits around 30. You don't need to be a super star to be set for life anymore- if you're careful with your money. Just being a hanger on nets you a pension after a few years. And the top minimum after 9 years is $900k. Know my niece's cousin was able to do that playing special teams and retired a few years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjh2130 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Comeonman said: I didn’t. Honestly. I thought the coaching was terrible enough and the players weren’t developed enough to actually win games. That was a strip down to the studs to acquire draft capital and rebuild. They were intentionally trying to not win games. The players weren't the front office was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Flugel said: Exactly! The FO there almost deserves this for the number of years they refused to protect the guy upfront. That all took a cumulative toll on his body. And you know what? He never complained about it or lost composure in the pocket or while eluding pressure on the improvise out of the pocket. In fact, sometimes you could hear him on audio/video telling someone that just clobbered him "GREAT HIT." As much as we're Cleveland Browns fans, a lot of us are fans of the game that really appreciate a guy like this. JJ Watt had a very respectful and understanding perspective on it today on ESPN when they aired comments from players and coaches around the league. And then they showed fans in the crowd as he walked off the field the last time PROUD to show him they're taking off their #12 jersey in disgust. Not for nothing, but social media really sucks sometimes especially when they leak something like this when he had a presser planned for a more appropriate time to air it. Given that I believe that our OL is now our #1 weakness on the Browns....let's hope our QB doesn't suffer a similar fated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, gumby73 said: The Colts fan base is full of weird folks..With a owner that should not run a Wendy's.. Thanks to most Colts fans, And I will be just fine... Indy never should have had a team. The Colts should still be in Baltimore.....that was all on the Irsay family. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said: According to the NFLPA, the average career is 3.3 years. Looks like he’ll be a full time caveman for geico now... lol BINGO, we have a winner! The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game. Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Lamar Miller...torn Acl ...out for year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzz2 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Good for Luck, sure it was a easy decision given his injuries and the NFL's pressure to just Play. Any person who can truly understand the toll the NFL takes on your body, mentally and physically. And has the guts to decide that getting out now is probably the best for him and his health in the long term deserves respect.Sucks to see him go but like I said, your health and sanity out weighs your misery down the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, hoorta said: You don't need to be a super star to be set for life anymore- if you're careful with your money. Just being a hanger on nets you a pension after a few years. And the top minimum after 9 years is $900k. Know my niece's cousin was able to do that playing special teams and retired a few years ago. True. If you have a brain cell left in your head and are wise with your money it's like hitting the lottery if you can make a team at any position. And signing bonuses vary but can make some players an instant millionaire. From one of my favorite sources spotrac: Each year the NFL minimum salaries increase by $15,000, up to $495,000 for a rookie in 2019. A player’s minimum salary is determined by his years of experience (YOE), ranging from 0 to 10 or more. The chart below shows the minimum (P5) salaries a team can contract a player to based on Years of Experience (credited seasons). Yrs. 2017 2018 2019 2020 0 $465,000 $480,000 $495,000 $510,000 1 $540,000 $555,000 $570,000 $585,000 2 $615,000 $630,000 $645,000 $660,000 3 $690,000 $705,000 $720,000 $735,000 4-6 $775,000 $790,000 $805,000 $820,000 7-9 $900,000 $915,000 $930,000 $945,000 10+ $1,000,000 $1,015,000 $1,030,000 $1,045,000 VETERAN MINIMUM BENEFITS When qualified, a player with four (4) or more years of NFL experience can earn his total minimum salary, but have a cap figure that reflects two years of experience – or in 2019, $645,000. The contract must be for only one year, and must not contain combined bonus money (signing, roster, workout) that exceeds $90,000. FRANCHISE & TRANSITION TAGS Franchise Tags Quarterback $24.865M Running back $11.214M Wide receiver $16.787M Tight end $10.387M Offensive linemen $14.067M Defensive end $17.128M Defensive tackle $15.209M Linebacker $15.443M Cornerback $16.022M Safety $11.15M Kicker/Punter $4.971M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I don't think that the Colts will be tanking. I think they will turn to Brissette and see if he can be the QB of the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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