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2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Edelman is always a safe bet.

He's Tom's emotional support "pet"...

Don't be surprised if Simon Cowell has a new show this week called "Which NE Receiver has the clean urine?" 

Door #1 - Longtime Cannibis Connoisseur - Potsy Gordon

Door #2 - PEDs B4 Disney Sunset Rides - Julian Edleman

Door #3 - My Eyes Adored Me and my gluten-free mushrooms - Antonio Brown-Untilfurthernotice

Spoiler alert: Guest judge Sharon Osborne sees a lot of similarities between AB and her husband Ozzie.  Stay tuned?  Why not?!

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3 hours ago, htownbrown said:

It might, but you can't blame the owners for it.

If there's a strike, it's because the economic "pie" of the NFL has been tilted very much in favor of the owners since the last CBA.

Nothing on this thread touches on the serious items.

"Guaranteed" money has been a mirage for decades, and there's nothing in the CBA preventing guaranteed deals.  FYI, there's nothing in the MLB or NBA CBA that requires them.  At present the only player in the NFL on a fully guaranteed contract is Kirk Cousins.. if more players structured their deal that way, guaranteed deals would be more common.

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9 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

How did the Raiders void his guarantees?

On Friday they fined him $215,073.53 for conduct detrimental to the team.

When a player is fined for conduct detrimental to the team, all guaranteed monies from their current contract are removed.. thus from that moment forward they are playing on a week-to-week contract.

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53 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said:

If there's a strike, it's because the economic "pie" of the NFL has been tilted very much in favor of the owners since the last CBA.

Nothing on this thread touches on the serious items.

"Guaranteed" money has been a mirage for decades, and there's nothing in the CBA preventing guaranteed deals.  FYI, there's nothing in the MLB or NBA CBA that requires them.  At present the only player in the NFL on a fully guaranteed contract is Kirk Cousins.. if more players structured their deal that way, guaranteed deals would be more common.

Never, under any circumstances, do you fully guarantee a contract with a contractor.  That's just for starters.

Between double dipping on contracts and destroying team caps, the only way to protect yourself is very short term contracts if you're an owner.

So players can't be guaranteed and have long term contracts.  It's impossible. It would be like franchise tagging an entire league every year.

If the players win on one end, they'll lose on the other.  They have to decide what they want because they can't have both.

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Where the F--- did Antonio go?     He just knocked over the Gatorade Tom; and now he's on Twitter.

Antonio you just missed a very important meeting about this week's game plan.   I wouldn't say "I MISSED IT" Tom.  Why?  Who we playing?

AB we come to practice here in Camelot!    Who's we?

Did you hear my audible AB?  Yeah Tom, didn't you see how much I disagreed with it?  No, AB I was a little busy wearing Myles Garrett and Larry Ogunjobi while you were taking selfies.

Why did you stop in the middle of your route AB?     My helmet was annoying me.  Can I borrow your helmet Tom and Giselle while we're at it here?

Perhaps you've heard Bill Belichick doesn't allow "I before team."    That might be in your contract Tom; but he did sign "me before team."  If you'll excuse me, Josh Gordon and I have a picnic to attend while you guys are practicing.  Let me get this straight you 2 knuckleheads are blowing off practice?  Tom, didn't you hear Bill say he didn't want any distractions? We're honoring that. You seem to forget the only guy that can cover me is Adam Schefter.  We'll be ite...

Antonio, why are you taking off your pads?  It's overtime.  If I charged the Patriots overtime Tom - we'd be way over the cap Tom. Now you got me using the word we and putting team first.  You really are F---ing magic!

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The Raiders should have traded him. 

I didn't realize that AB is 31 years old. He an old mofo. 

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Oh God we have to erase that image how about a former cheerleader and POTM from Cincinnati Ohio Stephanie Heinrich (even not in the cheerleader thread ;))

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1 hour ago, PoeticG said:

The Raiders should have traded him. 

I didn't realize that AB is 31 years old. He an old mofo. 

That's why I hope he stayed in pizzburgh he's peaked and starting  to show some injuries besides his behavior issues.

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Brady is carving up the steelrz tonight 27-3 in the 3rd quarter.

A perfect passer rating vs the blitz.

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I'm enjoying this NE 30-3 but going on 6 minutes left and Brady is still in and passing? Why?

........oh 33-3.

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2 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

Well at least the Steelers are getting their taints handed to them. 

Yeah you almost feel bad for them........ almost.   :lol:

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16 hours ago, PoeticG said:

The Raiders should have traded him. 

I didn't realize that AB is 31 years old. He an old mofo. 

They couldn't without eating a big helping of dead  money- I think.  Doubt anyone  would have  wanted  his contract  either. OTOH, cutting him "for conduct detrimental to the team" voided  his guaranteed contract. It did  make him instantly a FA, but he had pissed off everyone in the Raiders organization so badly they just wanted him  gone. 

I'm not the only one who thinks AB pulled this  stunt  on purpose. Amazingly  shady  that  he was  signed by the  Patriots  within hours of  being  released. 

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1 hour ago, hoorta said:

They couldn't without eating a big helping of dead  money- I think.  Doubt anyone  would have  wanted  his contract  either. OTOH, cutting him "for conduct detrimental to the team" voided  his guaranteed contract. It did  make him instantly a FA, but he had pissed off everyone in the Raiders organization so badly they just wanted him  gone. 

I'm not the only one who thinks AB pulled this  stunt  on purpose. Amazingly  shady  that  he was  signed by the  Patriots  within hours of  being  released. 

Did you see the video of him getting the word he was released? There’s no doubt it was planned. You could say fixed or rigged too. The whole thing sure does stink and should not be allowed. Good example for the kids. If you don’t get what you want, cry and quit until you do. The whole league is going jello

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28 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Tampering or desire?

Either way I ain't buyin' it....

 

I'll buy that AB is a first class jerk. Pouted his way out of Pittsburgh. I wouldn't call it a stretch he did the same in Oakland...  And Shady Bill didn't have his number on speed dial when this stuff started going down, hey give me a ring, we're here?   That's tampering Tour, and we already know too well the Patriots will skirt the rules if they can....  

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18 hours ago, hoorta said:

That's tampering Tour,

That's unsubstantiated, h...

Remember... Bill and the Pats offered PTG a 1st for AB when they were looking to trade him. So the interest was already known.

Could this have prompted AB to misbehave in OAK? Sure... but there was no need to "collude" by the Pats.

AB was a UFA as of 16:01 EDT on the day he was released. I've no doubt that Drew's phone rang exactly at that time... but that's legal.

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If you like conspiracy theories you'll like this......    https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/9/9/20857152/antonio-brown-conspiracy-corner-patriots-raiders-steelers

Conspiracy Corner: Was Antonio Brown’s Patriots Signing Part of an NFL Long Con for the Ages?

The All-Pro wide receiver’s move to New England sent shock waves across the league. It’s also prompting us to view his Raiders antics in an entirely different light.

By Rodger Sherman  Sep 9, 2019, 12:41pm EDT
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Quit feeding the hoota...

 

On another note... I'm sure yall heard about AB's new, 2nd-year option (mutual I assume) for $20mm. So now the pot is potentially right (actually bigger $/yr) and the incentive is in place to do things "the Patriot way".

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2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Quit feeding the hoota...

 

On another note... I'm sure yall heard about AB's new, 2nd-year option (mutual I assume) for $20mm. So now the pot is potentially right (actually bigger $/yr) and the incentive is in place to do things "the Patriot way".

What's  done  is done Tour. I'll  let it go. I still  think the possibility  remains that Brown  orchestrated his release, and the Patriots  were more than interested  and waiting  to accommodate him.  Remains to be seen  if AB can behave.  If he does, it will be a  first.

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2 hours ago, hoorta said:

What's  done  is done Tour. I'll  let it go. I still  think the possibility  remains that Brown  orchestrated his release, and the Patriots  were more than interested  and waiting  to accommodate him.  Remains to be seen  if AB can behave.  If he does, it will be a  first.

Meanwhile back at the home on the range................there is this little matter of the OBJ watch and the orange Rolls.  Can we please dispense with the drama and just win a fucking game Monday night??!!

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27577756/nfl-speaks-obj-wearing-watch

 

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