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this is my final word on the matter:

China Concealed COVID-19, Just Like It Did SARS - Frank ...

https://finance.townhall.com/columnists/frankvernu...

9 days ago · “China’s Ministry of Health was aware for months of a dangerous new type of pneumonia in Guangdong province before sharing that information with other nations or issuing a nationwide bulletin ...

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On ‎4‎/‎4‎/‎2020 at 3:03 PM, hoorta said:

 

2)  Donald Trump and his "Wuhan flu". Oh, he finally came around about a month late to the party. 

Cal has got his head in the sand Woody.  Wouldn't have mattered if Trumpie had immediately shut down travel from China to the USA- which he didn't. But for the MAGAs here, he can do no wrong, and he's been 100% on top of the situation from the get-go. Horseshit. Never mind he ignored warnings of top epidemiologists here for weeks. It would have come over from Europe a week or two later regardless- so too bad it's all China's fault.

It appears you missed the post about the top 10 media lies against Trump.

And it is the Wuhan Flu. Who the fuck cares, he can call it the Kung FLU if he likes.

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14 minutes ago, Gorka said:

It appears you missed the post about the top 10 media lies against Trump.

And it is the Wuhan Flu. Who the fuck cares, he can call it the Kung FLU if he likes.

Yeah, he could be completely unpresidential if he likes. Nothing new. The bar has been set so low these last four years I think everyone has forgotten what to expect. 

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5 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Yeah, he could be completely unpresidential if he likes. Nothing new. The bar has been set so low these last four years I think everyone has forgotten what to expect. 

Ah yes, lest we forget that other well grounded reason to hate Trump..."he doesn't act presidential".  Acting presidential has become just that, a fuckin "act". Obama, Bush to a lesser degree were both frauds who acted presidential while accomplishing nothing that mattered.

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1 hour ago, Gorka said:

It appears you missed the post about the top 10 media lies against Trump.

And it is the Wuhan Flu. Who the fuck cares, he can call it the Kung FLU if he likes.

All depends who you want to believe I guess. To set the record straight- Trump was merely parroting the general opinion of the populace at the time- this Chinese Bird flu isn't any big deal. 

That the USA is where we are can't be laid at Trump's feet. But I sure as hell can say the conspiracy theorists who have it in their heads this is all China's fault- are full of crap. I'll even go one step further Gorka- because you happen to be more reasonable than Cal. Even if this was a Wuhan Virology lab accident (and it wasn't, the molecular biologists have made a damn convincing argument this was pangolin or bat virus pool that mutated) when it initially got out into the human population- there was no f**king idea how easy human to human transmission was, or what the potential leathality of the virus was going to be.  :)  Early incomplete data certainly can produce erroneous conclusions. Somebody here equates that with deliberate lies. 

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someone here has evidence to back it up.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/china-coronavirus-cases-lies

China lied about the scope of its COVID-19 outbreak, US intelligence report claims

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=china+lied&&view=detail&mid=449E697B8D605CB690CC449E697B8D605CB690CC&&FORM=VDRVRV

CHINA LIED: Jeanine Pirro says they also KILLED the DOCTOR who reported the case

China Lied And People Died: Chinese Scientists Destroyed ...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/03/18/...

Mar 18, 2020 · China Lied And People Died: Chinese Scientists Destroyed Wuhan Coronavirus Evidence in December

GOLDSTEIN: China lied, people died — who will hold the ...

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-china-lied-people-died-who-will...

Apr 01, 2020 · This was due to the lead-up to China’s lunar new year celebrations, where widespread travel by rail and air is common, as families reunite. Thousands of travellers, unaware they were infected

China's Coronavirus Coverup -- Devastating Lies | National ...

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies

13 days ago · On today’s menu: a day-by-day, month-by-month breakdown of China’s coronavirus coverup and the irreparable damage it has caused around the globe. The Timeline of a …

China’s deadly coronavirus-lie co-conspirator — the World ...

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/chinas-deadly...

3 days ago · First, China’s Communist authorities have lied, concealed and misled about the origins of the epidemic and the toll of the virus in China. Second, the World Health Organization has acted as...

Intelligence Report Confirms China Lied, People Died

https://pjmedia.com/trending/u-s-intelligence-report-confirms-china-lied-people-died

4 days ago · U.S. Intelligence Report Confirms: China Lied, People Died. A U.S. Intelligence report confirms that China lied, people died. China hid its true numbers of

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China's Coronavirus Coverup -- Devastating Lies | National ...

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies

13 days ago · On today’s menu: a day-by-day, month-by-month breakdown of China’s coronavirus coverup and the irreparable damage it has caused around the globe. The Timeline of a …

Wuhan Virus Cover-Up Exposes a China Built on Lies

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/03/wuhan-corona...

Even now, arrests and threats continue throughout China for spreading so-called rumors about the virus. Some of that is directed against genuine misinformation, but some of it is simply the state ...

China tried to keep a lid on the coronavirus. It put ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global...

Jan 29, 2020 · China’s social media is afire with concern, despite the censors. Some have recalled the HBO television series “Chernobyl” to raise issues of government lying, which happened in …

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Leaked Documents Suggest That China Lied About Coronavirus ...

https://gritdaily.com/leaked-documents-suggest...

Feb 27, 2020 · Leaked Documents Suggest That China Lied About Coronavirus Case Numbers As the United States braces for the arrival of the Covid-19 novel coronavirus, world governments are scrambling to prepare for what the World Health Organization says is nearly a pandemic.

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  It must be just me, Hoorta. yep.

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1 hour ago, hoorta said:

All depends who you want to believe I guess. To set the record straight- Trump was merely parroting the general opinion of the populace at the time- this Chinese Bird flu isn't any big deal. 

That the USA is where we are can't be laid at Trump's feet. But I sure as hell can say the conspiracy theorists who have it in their heads this is all China's fault- are full of crap. I'll even go one step further Gorka- because you happen to be more reasonable than Cal. Even if this was a Wuhan Virology lab accident (and it wasn't, the molecular biologists have made a damn convincing argument this was pangolin or bat virus pool that mutated) when it initially got out into the human population- there was no f**king idea how easy human to human transmission was, or what the potential leathality of the virus was going to be.  :)  Early incomplete data certainly can produce erroneous conclusions. Somebody here equates that with deliberate lies. 

By saying it was not all Chinas fault do you mean in relation to them not having  any idea how fast or how far it had spread? If so then you have valid points, but I believe that its release, most likely by accident is solely Chinas fault.  COVID certainly wasn't a virus created at the Wuhan Lab and released intentionally, but I am not fully convinced that this virus had not escaped from there. The fact is that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is a virology lab and they do study bats and other adorable critters.

This wouldn't have been the first time. In 2004 SARS leaked out of Chinese virology lab twice.

As far as what China knew and when they knew it, I'm not sure what to think.

When you get a chance read this and tell me what you think.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/

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Check it out. Before it was even named COVID-19 chloroquine was recommended by Pete Townsend and The WHO at the beginning of Feb....

So brings up the questions ..what did they know and when did they know it?

On February 4 — one week before the World Health Organization decided to officially name this virus “COVID-19”the journal Cell Research posted a notice written by scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology about the virus, concluding, “our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/

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Well... this was a fun thread...

Trump backers backing Trump...

Trump critics "hating" on The Big Orange...

Then there's cal...

... expecting me to go three layers deep into a link to find a reference that's lame to begin with...

... believing whole countries can be hermetically sealed while ignoring the entry of over 40,000 US citizens from China after the "travel ban"... returning citizens who were neither quarantined nor tested in any fashion. Customs apparently did ask them, "How are you feeling?" Such was the Trump administration's exhaustive screening.

... claiming once again that "can not" is the same as "no evidence that it can".

Then there's Gorka... unsure about trusting the security of a Lab in Wuhan that until late last year was a place US virologists worked. Staff no longer there because that would be a continued expenditure that relied upon foresight.

 

At least an old movie was brought back to mind.

On 4/5/2020 at 1:53 PM, TexasAg1969 said:

It's like watching San Francisco in "On The Beach". 

All's right with the world.

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