Mr. Non-Science Saved By.............

[TexasAg1969]

something he has been against for some time. Hilarious! 

Covid-19 Live Updates: Treatment That Trump Called a ‘Cure’ Was Tested With Cells Derived From Fetal Tissue

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/08/world/covid-coronavirus?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201008&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=55869880&segment_id=40317&user_id=0401fbee7054bf3969a8cc251ed777fc#the-treatment-that-trump-touted-as-a-cure-for-covid-19-was-developed-using-cells-derived-from-fetal-tissue

 

[Canton Dawg]

The fetal tissue was more than likely sold by Planned Parenthood.

[D Bone]

 

[Gorka]

11 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

something he has been against for some time. Hilarious! 

Covid-19 Live Updates: Treatment That Trump Called a ‘Cure’ Was Tested With Cells Derived From Fetal Tissue

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/08/world/covid-coronavirus?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201008&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=55869880&segment_id=40317&user_id=0401fbee7054bf3969a8cc251ed777fc#the-treatment-that-trump-touted-as-a-cure-for-covid-19-was-developed-using-cells-derived-from-fetal-tissue

 

You trying to pin this as a black mark against Trump is what's hilarious.

Trump is not "non-science". He is against the politicizing of it dummy.

[Westside Steve]

Fair enough, how about you fake conservative hypocrite Tex? You have often talked about how conservative you are yet come out in favor for every hard left Democrat policy there is. So where are you on abortion-on-demand?

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Notice all the Satanist spouting science?

[TexasAg1969]

1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

Fair enough, how about you fake conservative hypocrite Tex? You have often talked about how conservative you are yet come out in favor for every hard left Democrat policy there is. So where are you on abortion-on-demand?

WSS

Since I am not female I have never been for or against it either way. That IMO should be up to those most affected to decide themselves. Tough if you don't like that, but I have had that opinion for decades. And how many times do I have to say I am a fiscal conservative and an independent thinker on everything else. BTW I just placed my ballot in the only place in the county our vote suppressing Governor allowed in the county. I voted for multiple conservative Republicans, particularly judges, as well as John Carter, my U.S. Congressional Representative. I did not vote for the fake president who is now totally unhinged and should have the 25th amendment invoked until a team of independent expert MDs judge him capable of resuming duties. Right now he exhibits signs of clear mania that can be induced by some of those drugs they just started him on. It's hard to distinguish from his normal mania though. He's lost an inherited fortune because of it.

[Westside Steve]

1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Since I am not female I have never been for or against it either way. That IMO should be up to those most affected to decide themselves. Tough if you don't like that, but I have had that opinion for decades. And how many times do I have to say I am a fiscal conservative and an independent thinker on everything else. BTW I just placed my ballot in the only place in the county our vote suppressing Governor allowed in the county. I voted for multiple conservative Republicans, particularly judges, as well as John Carter, my U.S. Congressional Representative. I did not vote for the fake president who is now totally unhinged and should have the 25th amendment invoked until a team of independent expert MDs judge him capable of resuming duties. Right now he exhibits signs of clear mania that can be induced by some of those drugs they just started him on. It's hard to distinguish from his normal mania though. He's lost an inherited fortune because of it.

Dude if anybody is fake, if anybody is manic, it is you. Just came out of the closet. Be the tough and fearless man you pretend to be.

WSS

[Canton Dawg]

4 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Since I am not female I have never been for or against it either way. That IMO should be up to those most affected to decide themselves. Tough if you don't like that, but I have had that opinion for decades. And how many times do I have to say I am a fiscal conservative and an independent thinker on everything else. BTW I just placed my ballot in the only place in the county our vote suppressing Governor allowed in the county. I voted for multiple conservative Republicans, particularly judges, as well as John Carter, my U.S. Congressional Representative. I did not vote for the fake president who is now totally unhinged and should have the 25th amendment invoked until a team of independent expert MDs judge him capable of resuming duties. Right now he exhibits signs of clear mania that can be induced by some of those drugs they just started him on. It's hard to distinguish from his normal mania though. He's lost an inherited fortune because of it.

 

[TexasAg1969]

1 minute ago, Westside Steve said:

Dude if anybody is fake, if anybody is manic, it is you. Just came out of the closet. Be the tough and fearless man you pretend to be.

WSS

LOL! Thanks Dr. Steve. Why didn't I consult you early on like in the 90's when I first developed this love for the lying Circus Clown you helped put in charge.

[TexasAg1969]

1 minute ago, Canton Dawg said:

 

I consulted Dr. Steve. Years too late to cure a disease from the 90's though. It's been a chronic state of contempt of liars, especially the President of Trump Fake University and Trump Fake Charity Foundation. Just can't help me now. The only medicine that works is the one I took this week. It's called a ballot.😂

[DieHardBrownsFan]

A ballot for socialism and destruction of our country.

[Westside Steve]

30 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

I consulted Dr. Steve. Years too late to cure a disease from the 90's though. It's been a chronic state of contempt of liars, especially the President of Trump Fake University and Trump Fake Charity Foundation. Just can't help me now. The only medicine that works is the one I took this week. It's called a ballot.😂

Pardner I don't give a rat's ass which socialist anti-American liberal shit you choose to vote for. I'm just suggesting you to grow a pair of balls and admit you're a liberal. I might still call you an idiot but not necessarily a hypocrite. 

WSS

 

[Gorka]

41 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

I consulted Dr. Steve. Years too late to cure a disease from the 90's though. It's been a chronic state of contempt of liars, especially the President of Trump Fake University and Trump Fake Charity Foundation. Just can't help me now. The only medicine that works is the one I took this week. It's called a ballot.😂

What DH said. A ballot for socialism, corruption, and anti -American sentiment . What a true American votes for. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[The Cysko Kid]

Wow a fat unhealthy 75 year old with high stress levels was saved in the span of a week? 

Well that's good news for pretty much everyone else then isn't it? Except the people who have a vested interest in keeping you as frightened as a mouse cornered by the cat. 

[TexasAg1969]

4 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Pardner I don't give a rat's ass which socialist anti-American liberal shit you choose to vote for. I'm just suggesting you to grow a pair of balls and admit you're a liberal. I might still call you an idiot but not necessarily a hypocrite. 

WSS

Only when you  admit you are no longer a Real Republican. You have all lost you minds to a con artist.

 

[Westside Steve]

13 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Only when you  admit you are no longer a Real Republican. You have all lost you minds to a con artist.

 

Find any post in which I've claimed I was one. You're just talking out your ass. Not that that's anything new but...

I asked you clowns over and over which particular policies, or at least stated policies because you can't count on anything to get done in politics, I should be opposed to. Por favor. I've been pretty clear about every one. Personality aside I just happen to think that the programs offered by Biden lovers are bad for society for the most part. 

WSS

[tiamat63]

11 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said:

Wow a fat unhealthy 75 year old with high stress levels was saved in the span of a week? 

Well that's good news for pretty much everyone else then isn't it? Except the people who have a vested interest in keeping you as frightened as a mouse cornered by the cat. 

Wouldn't get too ahead of myself there.  Herman Cain's timeline is rather sobering.

Toss in my suspicion of the President being on a high dose steroid treatment until the election (a temporary high in health, so to speak) there is still a potential low for him to come.   Not to mention the hell played on your liver and kidneys for such a cycled course over 6 weeks.

Having the best medical treatment on Earth also tends to help.  Or so I'm told...

[Gorka]

1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Only when you  admit you are no longer a Real Republican. You have all lost you minds to a con artist.

 

Trump stands for what real Republicans stand for idiot. You have all lost your minds the day he was elected.

 

 

[The Cysko Kid]

Hey don't take it up with me. Take it up with Tex who made this ridiculous thread. 

I personally don't care if trump lives or dies, wins or loses etc. 

Also the numbers say he has an 89% chance of survival at his age without the best medical care in the world. Decent odds. 

The social security administration says he only has a 62% chance of making it to 80 period without coronavirus so, you know, whatever. 

[Gorka]

17 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

Wouldn't get too ahead of myself there.  Herman Cain's timeline is rather sobering.

Toss in my suspicion of the President being on a high dose steroid treatment until the election (a temporary high in health, so to speak) there is still a potential low for him to come.   Not to mention the hell played on your liver and kidneys for such a cycled course over 6 weeks.

Having the best medical treatment on Earth also tends to help.  Or so I'm told...

Millions have had symptoms from mild to none at all, which would have most likely been Trumps situation...but of course you types would rather concoct an unlikely worst case scenario hoping it's true and run with that.

[Canton Dawg]

Just a reminder. . .

[Westside Steve]

30 minutes ago, tiamat63 said:

Wouldn't get too ahead of myself there.  Herman Cain's timeline is rather sobering.

Toss in my suspicion of the President being on a high dose steroid treatment until the election (a temporary high in health, so to speak) there is still a potential low for him to come.   Not to mention the hell played on your liver and kidneys for such a cycled course over 6 weeks.

Having the best medical treatment on Earth also tends to help.  Or so I'm told...

 I have no doubt you're aware of the mortality levels by age group. You're probably also aware of the fact that 80% are people with the virus are asymptomatic. Maybe even that he didn't necessarily get any better treatment than anybody in New York or Ohio or California or Michigan or Wisconsin gets. There are world-class medical facilities and all those places. Some people are just going to be mad no matter what and while they might not admit to wishing he died will at last admit wishing he suffered much more.

WSS

[Westside Steve]

1 minute ago, Canton Dawg said:

Just a reminder. . .

Even that one's a little bit misleading. You're limping in 70 through 100. The most dangerous years are well over 80. And of course life expectancy in the US is 78.

WSS

[D Bone]

As soon as I heard about Trump's positive result, I knew it would be a win/win for the left, and a win/lose for the right.

 

If he goes on to have the end result that well over 9 out of 10 people on the planet have.....

1) The right wins because they can say "See, this ain't no thing and you all are making a big deal out of nothing."

2.1) The left wins because they will say "Well, he got the world's best treatment that no one else can get, and that's the only reason why he lived." 

2.2) The left wins because they will say "Well, he was never even sick in the first place and this is all just more lies from Trump."

 

If he goes on to have an end result that leads to an extended hospitalization or death that the unlucky minority on this planet experience.....

3) The right loses because, well, he died, and they will have no good response to #4. 

4) The left wins again because, well, he died, and they can scream from the top of Portland's tallest building that "See what happens when you don't wear your mask, this shit will kill you and everyone else until the end of time."

 

Both sides are as predictable as maggots devouring a carcass..... just not nearly as much fun to watch. 

[MLD Woody]

1 hour ago, D Bone said:

As soon as I heard about Trump's positive result, I knew it would be a win/win for the left, and a win/lose for the right.

 

If he goes on to have the end result that well over 9 out of 10 people on the planet have.....

1) The right wins because they can say "See, this ain't no thing and you all are making a big deal out of nothing."

2.1) The left wins because they will say "Well, he got the world's best treatment that no one else can get, and that's the only reason why he lived." 

2.2) The left wins because they will say "Well, he was never even sick in the first place and this is all just more lies from Trump."

 

If he goes on to have an end result that leads to an extended hospitalization or death that the unlucky minority on this planet experience.....

3) The right loses because, well, he died, and they will have no good response to #4. 

4) The left wins again because, well, he died, and they can scream from the top of Portland's tallest building that "See what happens when you don't wear your mask, this shit will kill you and everyone else until the end of time."

 

Both sides are as predictable as maggots devouring a carcass..... just not nearly as much fun to watch. 

To be fair, when a large portion of everything you (Trump) say is a lie, you kind of lose the benefit of the doubt. Lying about this for political gain is 100% believable. 

That being said, it would be a pretty big cover up at this point, with all of the positive cases.

Plus Trump was shown with clearly labored breathing. 

[JAFBF]

I've looked into this a bit.

It's definitely not Stem Cell derived, and to the best of my understanding with the time I've had available to look into it, it seems that it's synthetic (ie - man made), but that is as far as I've been able to look into this.

 

I'm not sure what the parameter for "banning" certain research is as attributed to the OP, so take that into consideration.

 

Here's more info/links for those that care to look into this further.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/doctors-dispute-claims-that-trumps-coronavirus-treatment-was-developed-with-human-fetal-tissue

https://www.isscr.org/docs/default-source/policy-documents/coalition-letter-to-nih-human-fetal-tissue-ethics-advisory-board-july-2020.pdf?sfvrsn=b0a243b1_2

https://osp.od.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/HFT_EAB_FY2020_Report_08182020.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TexasAg1969]

21 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Maybe even that he didn't necessarily get any better treatment than anybody in New York or Ohio or California or Michigan or Wisconsin gets. There are world-class medical facilities and all those places.

WSS

Yes he did. Our friend's brother is right there at Johns Hopkins with the exact same MD. But he was not given the experimental drug Regeneron until he'd been on a ventilator for two weeks when they were given permission to use it by the FDA because otherwise he was a goner in their opinion. It was compassionate emergency use. Donald was never in that state, so he did get better treatment than you or I would. The steroid and Remdesivir were started from the beginning on her brother before he went to ventilator.  BTW our buddy had his trach done yesterday and is starting to come out of the highly sedated state. Was able to open his eyes upon request, but otherwise not fully responding yet. They also added through minor surgery a feeding tube directly into his stomach through his abdomen. Looks like he is gonna make it, but we will not know full aftereffects for weeks or maybe months.

[calfoxwc]

Tex loves lies and false narratives - with emotional knee jerk lefties - it's all they can do, because

the truth about things don't fit their emotions. Just more fake nonsense to flood the forum. "Best defense is a dishonest offense" ?

https://www.redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020/10/09/no-trumps-covid-19-treatment-didnt-come-from-aborted-fetuses/

No, Trump’s COVID-19 Treatment Didn’t Come From Aborted Fetuses

Fact-checkers at USA Today have said that the treatment does not contain any embryonic stem cells, at all.

From USA Today:

“Alexandra Bowie of Regeneron told news aggregation platform Heavy in an October email that REGN-COV2 was not made with human embryonic stem cells.

“This particular discovery program (REGN-COV2) did not involve human stem cells or ESCs,” Bowie wrote. “

 

[MLD Woody]

You'd have to be a moron to think the president of the United States got the same level of treatment as an average citizen in Michigan, Ohio, NY, etc...