ATOM Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 8:13 AM, Dutch Oven said: Tom Tupa - I believe - is the first player to score a 2pt conversion too... not unless he played for the Browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, ATOM said: not unless he played for the Browns He did....and the first two point extra point was, I believe, accomplished when he was with the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Gipper said: He did....and the first two point extra point was, I believe, accomplished when he was with the Browns. Vs Cincinnati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Wade played himself into the second round. He may even be a bust there too. Have to question his effort on a few of the plays too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Shaun Wade pathetic effort tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, SdBacker80 said: Have to question his effort on a few of the plays too. You're 8 weeks late to this part. Go back and watch the Penn State game. If I was Ryan Day, I would have benched him at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 4:13 PM, Dutch Oven said: Vs Cincinnati i mean i knew we were the first but did not remember tupa being on are team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I've seen most the Tyreek Hill comparisons to Gators WR Kadarius Toney👀.. He'd surely help our kick/punt returns. Also, think Toney will blow his combine numbers out of our reach & higher position needs..Juice at age 28, don't look to be losing any steps either... Toney would be a fun watch, with Juice tutoring him though... Every draft season, I look for that small school kid to root for.. Can't wait to see this Charleston, D2 kid at senior bowl/combine.... I was shocked to see Walt even found this guy & ranked him #34 Meet 6'5" 225 Mike Strachan AJ Brown'ish comes to my mind ? Some say 4.5 speed.. But, I want to see more, if this big cat, can turn & get out of breaks..Not much tape out there on route tree, but can see a Gordon getting off the LOS... any thoughts of having 2 twin towers on the outside of Peeps & a 6'5 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 hours ago, gumby73 said: I've seen most the Tyreek Hill comparisons to Gators WR Kadarius Toney👀.. He'd surely help our kick/punt returns. Also, think Toney will blow his combine numbers out of our reach & higher position needs..Juice at age 28, don't look to be losing any steps either... Toney would be a fun watch, with Juice tutor him though... Every draft season, I look for that small school kid to root for.. Can't wait to see this Charleston, D2 kid at senior bowl/combine.... I was shocked to see Walt even found this guy & ranked him #34 Meet 6'5" 225 Mike Strachan AJ Brown'ish comes to my mind ? Some say 4.5 speed.. But, I want to see more, if this big cat, can turn & get out of breaks..Not much tape out there on route tree, but can see a Gordon getting off the LOS... any thoughts of having 2 twin towers on the outside of Peeps & a 6'5 ? I like the added bulk of your little guy, but wonder about his quicks at 5'11. Does he seem expensive to you if he's a 2nd-rounder? Strachan seems to be more of unknown... at least at draftscout. If the 4.6 is close, then he'd better cut on a dime to separate. Twin Towers? I could see taking a chance on Olajuwon, but Sampson? Not so much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: your little guy 5'11. Bunch a' god damn height supremacists around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Bunch a' god damn height supremacists around here. Shorty? Is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Shorty? Is that you? And you wonder why DB's have attitudes? Back to watching DB's. Not completely prepared to rule out one of the top 5 falling to the Browns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 The Tide is rolling in.. Quote Four Alabama football players announced Thursday that they will be passing on remaining years of eligibility to enter the 2021 NFL draft: quarterback Mac Jones, wide receiver Jaylen Waddle, defensive lineman Christian Barmore and cornerback Patrick Surtain II. All of them have recently been projected as first-round picks. Four Alabama standouts, including Mac Jones, announce departure to NFL (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: The Tide is rolling in.. And how many of them will turn out to have been overrated players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, The Gipper said: And how many of them will turn out to have been overrated players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: 1 Jones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Jones? He's going to have to be with a coach as good as Saban (or Stef) who can meticulously pick out defensive weaknesses that are tailor made for Jones to take advantage with the skills he has or can build upon. I've never trusted more recent Bama or OSU QBs to be very good in the NFL. Waddle was almost as good as Smith before the injury I think and you could see he was still decent enough to play well with one wheel some of the NC game. Kid plays with heart. That impressed me. Smith is going to be one of those really great NFL receivers. He deserved the Heisman. Barmore may go first round as the best DT in this year's draft. Tough to move him out and good at pushing into the pocket. He actually may be there when we pick as BPA. EDIT: Draftek actually has Waddle going before Smith in their mock draft right now. Correction to that. They have him higher on their Big Board, but have Smith drafted first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Barmore may go first round as the best DT in this year's draft. Barmore's quickness surprised me. Even made me think of Aaron Donald a couple times... ... then I came to my senses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: 1 Their history is like more than half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: He's going to have to be with a coach as good as Saban (or Stef) who can meticulously pick out defensive weaknesses that are tailor made for Jones to take advantage with the skills he has or can build upon. I've never trusted more recent Bama or OSU QBs to be very good in the NFL. Waddle was almost as good as Smith before the injury I think and you could see he was still decent enough to play well with one wheel some of the NC game. Kid plays with heart. That impressed me. Smith is going to be one of those really great NFL receivers. He deserved the Heisman. Barmore may go first round as the best DT in this year's draft. Tough to move him out and good at pushing into the pocket. He actually may be there when we pick as BPA. EDIT: Draftek actually has Waddle going before Smith in their mock draft right now. Correction to that. They have him higher on their Big Board, but have Smith drafted first. McElroy or McCarron quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Barmore's quickness surprised me. Even made me think of Aaron Donald a couple times... ... then I came to my senses. https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2020/12/christian-barmore/ Donald is 6'1", 280. But since you mention it, Barmore's serious power and quickness was amazing. Barmore is 6'5", 315. Just...amazing to watch him dominate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 If recent history stays trend - then Surtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, tiamat63 said: If recent history stays trend - then Surtain. Say what? No seriously, what were you trying to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Say what? No seriously, what were you trying to say? Kareem Jackson Dre Kirkpatrick Dee Milliner Marlon Humprhey Javier Arenas Cyrus Jones (60) Trevon Diggs (51) I included a couple picks just outside the top 50. But those are the CB's selected from Bama in the top 50 range. Outside of Humphrey, isn't a pro-bowler to be found. Milliner a regarded bust. Kirkpatrick, Jackson, Arenas all drafted well above how they've played. NE shipped Jones after after 1 season and jury is still out on Diggs. In short, Bama corners haven't been very good in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Kareem Jackson Dre Kirkpatrick Dee Milliner Marlon Humprhey Javier Arenas Cyrus Jones (60) Trevon Diggs (51) I included a couple picks just outside the top 50. But those are the CB's selected from Bama in the top 50 range. Outside of Humphrey, isn't a pro-bowler to be found. Milliner a regarded bust. Kirkpatrick, Jackson, Arenas all drafted well above how they've played. NE shipped Jones after after 1 season and jury is still out on Diggs. In short, Bama corners haven't been very good in the NFL. You mentioned Barmore. How have their DTs fared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 I'm looking at midround DB's. Someone who I feel can step in at the #3 CB, but also gives me some scheme flexibility too. Been watching this kid a good deal this morning and I really love what I see so far. Kary Vincent, DB, LSU. (#5) Or as I like to call him - New Badger @ 24 seconds. Carries Ceedee Lamb in quarters and stays in his pocket. Not easy, just ask the NFL. @ 42 seconds. Really impressive here. Ends up dropping into a deep 1/3 on a zone replacement, gets his eyes back to the action, covers ground being just inside that hash and doesn't just deny the home run shot - He turns it into a possession going the other way. This kid can MOVE. @ 1:28 Again draws Ceedee in quarters. OU really went at Kary and paid the price for it, I just don't think Sooners coaches appreciated his abilities. Either that or they wanted to take advantage of his size. (5'10 190). As a "smaller" DB (Fuck you Tour, I'm every bit of 5'11).. I LOVE seeing these guys play "bigger" than they are. Looks like a little post-corner shot here and Kary is all over this one. @ 2:12 Playing the deep 1/3, flows with the rollout and gets downhill to limit the damage on YAC. Shows great willingness to stick his nose in on the run. Actually secures tackles, flys downhill, breakdowns and wraps up VERY well. @ 2:41 cover 1 with a 5th boundary pressure. Man coverage, does a great job recognizing the route, getting over the rub and again immediately limiting any gain. I can't say again how impressive this is in the modern CFB game. Any time I see DB's WANTING to tackle in open space? yeah, you have my respect. I'm on board with what I've seen so far and despite him opting out of the 2020 season, this is a DB I'm prioritizing for my mid-round(s) film list. I'm going to pour over everything I can find of his before I move onto another player. But a skill set like this would go a long way to helping the Browns defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 ^^^^^^^^......giving us an entire LSU defensive backfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Obviously defensive guys galore. But an offensive guy I would seriously consider in mid to late rounds is Anthony Schwartz WR from Auburn. Will certainly take top off defense. 4.27 40 6'1 180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'm still trying to figure out the first round. I'm down to figuring, so far..... that the list of three players the Browns would draft, given their late position... can't see any top three or four cb's that are first round cb's falling to the Browns.... Zaven Collins - has been a favorite choice. Christian Barmore - he's that great on the DL Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah one of these three are it, I think. Owusu is a tween lb/SS with 4.4 speed. Smart, intuitive and violent. Zaven Collins is very fast, big, diagnoses plays, very smart.... and Barmore is a big man that moves like a powerful smaller defensive end. and don't be surprised if Owusu and Collins are both already gone. The Browns may have to trade up a bit to have a chance at all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Already a long going thread on this. Go read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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