The Gipper Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 It seems that maybe there is only like one QB in the league that may not be the subject of trade rumors. Now, ever Cousins apparently is in on it. https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-qb-kirk-cousins-addresses-192931973.html Maybe Mahomes is the only guy not subject to rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 My brother from another mother, Tashaun pipes in on the Texans/Watson controversy: https://sports.yahoo.com/deshaun-watson-trade-bears-tashaun-035408839.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Also, one other rumor has been quashed: In case Jim Irsay's conclusion on Andrew Luck wasn't firm enough for the most hopeful Colts fans last week, his response Thursday slammed the door shut. Irsay made it crystal clear when speaking with CBS 4's Chris Widlic: Luck is not coming out of retirement to solve Indianapolis' quarterback quandary. "He's more retired now than he was a year and a half ago," Irsay told Bowen. ... "He definitely is retired and there's really no wiggle room or rumor or anything, as much as people would like to hear that. Believe me, I wish it was true and I was hiding some big announcement ... but that's just not the case." The hope of Luck doubling back from the freedom of retirement to regain his throne as the Colts' franchise quarterback has lingered in the minds of Colts fans for some time, and the recent retirement of one-year, stopgap quarterback Philip Rivers has only intensified the wishful spreading of rumors. But as Irsay said, Luck is done with the game. Colts fans would be wise to instead spend their energy on attempting to predict who might replace Rivers -- and leave Luck out of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 hours ago, The Gipper said: Bears and Colts in bidding war over Wentz? Perhaps: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-rumors-bears-colts-carson-194441723.html I'd like to see Wentz come to the AFC. Zombo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 4:29 PM, Tour2ma said: I'm going to guess this is not a nod to an old audio name... I did own a Kenwood way back.... But I like this stuff better, also qualifies as one of my favorite labels... The older vintages had etched bottles, sadly no longer. BTW, if you're ever in Sonoma, the Kenwood tasting room was one of my favorites.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Per this, Jameis Winston has the inside track on Saints starting job for next year: https://sports.yahoo.com/report-jameis-winston-driver-seat-163830068.html While quarterback trade rumors and speculation on free agency and the upcoming 2021 NFL draft are swirling, it appears the New Orleans Saints are preparing to stand pat with passers they already know. NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport shed some light on the situation during an appearance on “NFL Gameday” ahead of Super Bowl LV kickoff. “The New Orleans Saints knows this: Drew Brees is set to retire. He hasn’t officially announced it yet, but it’s going to happen,” Rapoport said. “Their quarterback plans for 2021 are this: Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill.” Hill started four games in 2020 while Brees was on the mend recovering from injuries, and while the Saints did go 3-1 in that stretch his play did leave a lot to be desired. And Saints coach Sean Payton saw enough out of Winston in practice during the season to want to bring the free agent back to New Orleans for a chance to compete for the starting gig in training camp.Rapoport added: “My understanding is Jameis Winston is in the driver’s seat to be the starting quarterback for the Saints next season. He is the potential heir to everything Drew Brees had.” Winston is one of the most-accomplished quarterbacks headed for the open market. Just 27 years old, he’s already started 70 games in the NFL while completing 61.3% of his attempts and throwing 121 touchdown passes. He also led the league in passing yards in 2019 (5,109). But he’s been prone to turnovers, which was worsened in Bruce Arians’ offense that same year (when he led the NFL with 30 interceptions). In 76 games with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he threw 88 interceptions and fumbled 50 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 6:59 PM, The Gipper said: Bears and Colts in bidding war over Wentz? Perhaps: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-rumors-bears-colts-carson-194441723.html AHAHAHAHA. Omg, they are so screwed. Wentz was flat out broken this year. I know they're hoping for a "Tannehill-ian" resurrection, but that's some rare shit. Wentz holds onto the ball and that's difficult to fix, and I don't think he's that accurate to begin with. I realize teams like the Bears and Colts have to do SOMETHING, but geez...this wreaks of desperation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Khalil Mack....or Darius Leonard for Carson Wentz? See this article: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-rumors-lions-asked-aaron-223446117.html And, apparently, the Lions asked for Aaron Donald in the deal for Stafford. Rams said NYET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Carson Wentz has been traded to the Colts: Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 4m Philadelphia has agreed to trade Carson Wentz to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for a 2021 third-round pick and a conditional 2022 second-round pick that could turn into a first, league sources tell @mortreport and me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 12:07 PM, The Gipper said: So. QB Scorecard. Teams that could have a change at QB.......later to be filled in with who they did get: 1. Colts.....Carson Wentz to Colts in trade with Eagles. 2. Saints 3. Texans 4. Lions.....Jared Goff....to Lions in trade with Rams 5. Cowboys 6. Bears 7. Jaguars.....belief is that Trevor Lawrence will be the guy...noting official until the draft. 8. Patriots 9. Broncos 10. Washington 11. Eagles.....Jalen Hurts??? 12. Panthers 13. Dolphins 14. Falcons 15. 49ers 16. Steelers 17. Packers 18. Rams? Matt Stafford to Rams in trade for Goff. Over half the teams in the league. Note...this does not include Tampa whom we all believe will have stability with a 44 year old QB at the helm. Update scoreboard. Wentz trade means, I assume Hurts is the man in Philly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Eagles pick at 6.. early enough to get another if Roseman falls in love with someone. Hurts is good enough, though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Well, if there was a place where Wentz could get back to where he was, it is in Indianapolis with Frank Reich, who he has a history with. Because man, he was broken last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 8 hours ago, The Gipper said: Update scoreboard. Wentz trade means, I assume Hurts is the man in Philly? Yes. Especially since they brought in his old QB coach for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 I have always liked Wentz, but I hate to see him back in the AFC opposing the Browns come playoff time. I think the change is what he needed. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Wentz was awful -- Possible Colts overpaid due to Wentz's personality -> unless he is willing to humble himself and accept a number of changes, he's done.. he was not an NFL quarterback last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 I don’t know why the Colts would give up capital like that and take on a contract like that. the obviously think he can be fixed but they’ve taken a step back in the position and taken on more money and given up more assets in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: I don’t know why the Colts would give up capital like that and take on a contract like that. the obviously think he can be fixed but they’ve taken a step back in the position and taken on more money and given up more assets in the process. Because he performed very well under Reich when they were together in Philly, and Reich must obviously believe in him Wentz has the physical talent, its just that his brain has been scattered. Seeing Nick Foles lead the team in the playoffs to a Super Bowl win after he was hurt; the team he led all year long I suspect messed with his head somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Because he performed very well under Reich when they were together in Philly, and Reich must obviously believe in him Wentz has the physical talent, its just that his brain has been scattered. Seeing Nick Foles lead the team in the playoffs to a Super Bowl win after he was hurt; the team he led all year long I suspect messed with his head somehow. With what they paid it Looks like they assumed he would be fixed under Reich. I can’t say they are a better team with Wentz instead of Rivers and they had to give up picks commit more cash. I thought the Eagles had no leverage whatsoever- wrong!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: With what they paid it Looks like they assumed he would be fixed under Reich. Yes, I do believe that is the assumption. I can’t say they are a better team with Wentz instead of Rivers and they had to give up picks commit more cash. I thought the Eagles had no leverage whatsoever- wrong!!! Well, they had little. A 3rd and a second for what was the #2 overall pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 7:37 AM, Zombo said: I'd like to see Wentz come to the AFC. Zombo You got your wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 8:44 PM, Canton Mike said: I have always liked Wentz, but I hate to see him back in the AFC opposing the Browns come playoff time. I think the change is what he needed. Mike Z wholly disagrees with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 11:48 AM, The Gipper said: Carson Wentz has been traded to the Colts: Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Philadelphia has agreed to trade Carson Wentz to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for a 2021 third-round pick and a conditional 2022 second-round pick that could turn into a first, league sources tell @mortreport and me. Wentz was terrible last year. a third and a future second doesn't sound outrageous... On 2/19/2021 at 1:11 PM, Unsympathetic said: Wentz was awful -- Possible Colts overpaid due to Wentz's personality -> unless he is willing to humble himself and accept a number of changes, he's done.. he was not an NFL quarterback last season. Wentz is on the Tim Tebow side of personality. Maybe the frustration of playing so poorly got to him. He was a pinata last year- 50 sacks... Someone will have to explain this to me, but it sure looks like the Colts long term investment in Wentz is minimal, though cutting him in 2022, and gifting the Eagles a second round pick doesn't sound good. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WentCa00.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 It looks like the Panthers and Teddy Twatwater are headed for a split, though that was predictable. I don't know is anyone had him in there as the long term starter for Carolina: https://sports.yahoo.com/teddy-bridgewater-unfollows-panthers-instagram-150006305.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 21 hours ago, hoorta said: Wentz was terrible last year. a third and a future second doesn't sound outrageous... Wentz is on the Tim Tebow side of personality. Maybe the frustration of playing so poorly got to him. He was a pinata last year- 50 sacks... Someone will have to explain this to me, but it sure looks like the Colts long term investment in Wentz is minimal, though cutting him in 2022, and gifting the Eagles a second round pick doesn't sound good. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WentCa00.htm Carson Wentz is Brandon Weedon 2.0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 17 hours ago, nickers said: Carson Wentz is Brandon Weedon 2.0! Nah- We-Done was gawdawful... Look up his stats and compare them to Wentz's if you don't believe me. A better comparison would be our own Case Keenum. With 20\20 hindsight, glad we didn't draft him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Naturally the national media slobbers over anything Cowboys related. Not sure why at this point since they have been a mediocre to shitty team for decades now. But of course, tons of talk about what they should do with the "great" Dak Prescott. Well, I have an idea. And note I put quotes around "great" because, quite frankly it is foolish IMO to think of Prescott as great. He IS a good QB, but I think he is vastly overrated just because he plays in Dallas. I do NOT think, by any means that he is one of the best 10 QBs in the league. I think he probably ranks between 15-20. And they are talking about tagging him for like 37 million bucks, which could make him like the 3rd highest paid qb in the league? Pure Bologna. Again, in my opinion, they have a guy backing him up, Andy Dalton, who has career stats that are equal or better than Prescott. And Dalton makes only like 3 million. So, what should the Cowboys do? : Cut him loose. Let him go to FA. Do NOT place the franchise tag on him for the 37 million. Let him hit the open market. Who is going to offer him anywhere near that? Maybe someone, but more fool them. And they should let Dalton start.....and with that #10 pick they have in the draft, take a QB of the future. Or, if they can, move up several spaces in a trade to get one of Zack Wilson, or Justin Fields...and have a guy with a better upside leading their team at rookie wage scale for the next 4 years. Not that I care if the Cowboys suck forever. I hope they do. (and in wanting that I would say: put 37 million into Prescott....and let the rest of the team falter and be shite.......goody , goody). But I am just talking basic value here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Dalton career stats: Passing Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 144 142 74-66-2 2973 4782 62.2 33764 218 4.6 126 2.6 1624 86 7.1 6.8 11.4 234.5 87.5 302 1922 6.26 6.01 5.9 23 27 103 9 yrs CIN 133 133 70-61-2 2757 4449 62.0 31594 204 4.6 118 2.7 1508 86 7.1 6.8 11.5 237.5 87.5 278 1738 6.32 6.06 5.9 21 24 98 1 yr DAL 11 9 4-5-0 216 333 64.9 2170 14 4.2 8 2.4 116 69 6.5 6.3 10.0 197.3 87.3 24 184 5.56 5.34 6.7 2 3 5 2011* 24 CIN QB 14 16 16 9-7-0 300 516 58.1 3398 20 3.9 13 2.5 151 84 6.6 6.2 11.3 212.4 80.4 49.5 24 160 6.00 5.65 4.4 4 4 11 2012 25 CIN QB 14 16 16 10-6-0 329 528 62.3 3669 27 5.1 16 3.0 172 59 6.9 6.6 11.2 229.3 87.4 47.7 46 229 5.99 5.68 8.0 1 3 12 2013 26 CIN QB 14 16 16 11-5-0 363 586 61.9 4293 33 5.6 20 3.4 206 82 7.3 6.9 11.8 268.3 88.8 54.8 29 182 6.68 6.29 4.7 1 3 14 2014* 27 CIN QB 14 16 16 10-5-1 309 481 64.2 3398 19 4.0 17 3.5 160 81 7.1 6.3 11.0 212.4 83.5 48.5 21 124 6.52 5.75 4.2 4 3 11 2015 28 CIN QB 14 13 13 10-3-0 255 386 66.1 3250 25 6.5 7 1.8 148 80 8.4 8.9 12.7 250.0 106.2 72.5 20 118 7.71 8.17 4.9 3 3 13 2016* 29 CIN QB 14 16 16 6-9-1 364 563 64.7 4206 18 3.2 8 1.4 206 86 7.5 7.5 11.6 262.9 91.8 52.3 41 264 6.53 6.53 6.8 2 1 12 2017 30 CIN QB 14 16 16 7-9-0 297 496 59.9 3320 25 5.0 12 2.4 163 77 6.7 6.6 11.2 207.5 86.6 44.8 39 255 5.73 5.65 7.3 3 3 10 2018 31 CIN QB 14 11 11 5-6-0 226 365 61.9 2566 21 5.8 11 3.0 132 49 7.0 6.8 11.4 233.3 89.6 59.4 21 157 6.24 6.05 5.4 3 4 8 2019 32 CIN QB 14 13 13 2-11-0 314 528 59.5 3494 16 3.0 14 2.7 170 66 6.6 6.0 11.1 268.8 78.3 42.1 37 249 5.74 5.19 6.5 7 2020 33 DAL qb 14 11 9 4-5-0 216 333 64.9 2170 14 4.2 8 2.4 116 69 6.5 6.3 10.0 197.3 87.3 53.8 24 184 5.56 5.34 6.7 2 3 5 Prescott career stats: Passing Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 69 69 42-27-0 1514 2293 66.0 17634 106 4.6 40 1.7 875 90 7.7 7.8 11.6 255.6 97.3 146 892 6.86 7.00 6.0 9 15 66 2016* 23 DAL QB 4 16 16 13-3-0 311 459 67.8 3667 23 5.0 4 0.9 185 83 8.0 8.6 11.8 229.2 104.9 77.6 25 143 7.28 7.86 5.2 5 5 16 2017 24 DAL QB 4 16 16 9-7-0 308 490 62.9 3324 22 4.5 13 2.7 162 81 6.8 6.5 10.8 207.8 86.6 69.9 32 185 6.01 5.74 6.1 0 4 14 2018* 25 DAL QB 4 16 16 10-6-0 356 526 67.7 3885 22 4.2 8 1.5 206 90 7.4 7.5 10.9 242.8 96.9 55.2 56 347 6.08 6.22 9.6 3 5 14 2019 26 DAL QB 4 16 16 8-8-0 388 596 65.1 4902 30 5.0 11 1.8 229 62 8.2 8.4 12.6 306.4 99.7 71.9 23 151 7.68 7.84 3.7 16 2020 27 DAL qb 4 5 5 2-3-0 151 222 68.0 1856 9 4.1 4 1.8 93 58 8.4 8.4 12.3 371.2 99.6 78.7 10 66 7.72 7.72 4.3 1 1 6 NOT 34 million dollars better. Ever so slightly, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm I have to vehemently disagree with you on the 15-20 QB league wide ranking. The numbers in the link suggest otherwise. You bring up Andy D but how did he do this year in Dallas? You franchise him and work toward something long term unless you find a plan B equal to him that doesn’t cost as much considering assets you have to give up and salary you need to pay. Do you have any ideas on that replacement guy? I don’t. Perspective Wentz just cost the Colts two premium picks. Hindsight, probably would have been better to extend him before the tags came. Keep in mind his rookie deal was peanuts given his draft spot. I made silly statement on this forum after he got injured. I said given the injury Dallas now holds all the chips. Well I was wrong. Here we are and I think Dak is in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Bold Prediction... Reich fixes Wentz only to see him get hurt. Meanwhile appears Wentz can't handle "tough coaching". Quote One of the takeaways is that the former second overall pick did not respond to coaching and “(tuned) out much of what he was being taught.” Wentz reportedly did not trust Doug Pederson and the Eagles coaching staff. The same was true of Wentz’s feelings toward the front office after Philadelphia drafted Jalen Hurts in the second round last year. Report sheds light on Carson Wentz’s work ethic issues with Eagles (msn.com) So turns out he's a whinny lil bitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, SdBacker80 said: I made silly statement on this forum after he got injured. No biggie... we all do sooner or later. Gipper makes them all the time... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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