TexasAg1969 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 18 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too. https://medium.com/sportsraid/best-nfl-defense-2020-ranking-football-ravens-steelers-chargers-patriots-49ers-saints-bucs-bears-vikings-28c64a1379b8 One of the things I most look forward to is the improvement from that #16 since we concentrated on O the first year and on D this year. Get into the top 10 and maintain that O, this could be one great year with the pressure off Baker & company to score every possession like this past year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: the improvement from that #16 Here's hoping the Takk situation turns out more purposefully than gramma buying a lottery ticket and losing it between the car seats on the way home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 From Yahoo sports........ The present and future of runaway sports payrolls ? When will it end or will it ? To pay or not to pay? (Nick Cammett/Diamond Images via Getty Images) By Jay Hart A little over a year ago, Patrick Mahomes signed a monster 10-year contract worth up to $503 million. Last week, Josh Allen got his own monster deal that, while not $503 million, could actually pave the way for an even bigger haul. That’s sort of how it is with QB contracts: QB1 signs a deal, QB2 signs a bigger deal, QB3 signs an even bigger deal and so on. It hasn’t mattered where the talent level lies, just who’s up next. This brings us to who is next: Baker Mayfield; Lamar Jackson; and, soon, Kyler Murray. They’re all going to get paid. The question then becomes: Are they worth the salary-cap eating deals that will begin to strap the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills over the next couple seasons? Take the Chiefs. This season they’ll allocate just 5.5% of cap space on the quarterback position. Next season, that jumps to 17.5%, the season after that nearly 20%. Mahomes is special, but is even he special enough to make up for the loss of talent the Chiefs will undoubtedly experience due to cap restrictions? Now apply that question to Jackson, Mayfield and Murray, who, if the progression of quarterback salaries hold, will eat up even more cap space than Mahomes. The logic stands that you pay your QB because it’s either that or start over, and who wants to start over? But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening. Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning. Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling. To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds. This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 4:53 AM, ballpeen said: answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point. not yet..... The start line. is still a couple months away.... and then there are a few months of data colllection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 9:38 AM, mjp28 said: But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening. Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning. Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling. To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds. This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off. GO, DePo, GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 12:11 PM, calfoxwc said: The Josh Allen bar has been set. SHocker here is that it did not take a backhoe to set it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 starts at the top, of course, with Baker Mayfield, who is entering his fourth NFL season. He's appeared in 46 games and has started 45 in a row. He's already sixth in franchise history with 11,115 passing yards, fourth with 932 completions and fifth with 75 touchdowns. All three totals are Browns records for a player in his first three seasons. Pasted from Browns.com. I'm not going to say how much Baker should be paid or how much he’s worth, but this little bit right here says so much. Living through 1,296 starting QBs in 20 years to now having Baker is pretty damn awesome to me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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