LBC mike Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 bring him back on a one year deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, LBC mike said: bring him back on a one year deal? Collins who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Even though he only plays half speed on 60% of the plays.... he is still an upgrade. Guess it's just cash out the door if its a one year deal and he puts the same effort in as he did before, but that guy can light it up when he does play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted September 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Jamie Collins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 No ... The guy is not 100% committed, wouldn't fit on this team. Z 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 No in the 4-2-5 scheme he’s a backup. Im more than okay with our LB play this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, LBC mike said: Jamie Collins NO!... His best days are behind him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, nickers said: NO!... His best days are behind him... Ya, but is he better than Mack Wilson or Taki Taki for the rest of this season? (Even at half speed....) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, hx214 said: Ya, but is he better than Mack Wilson or Taki Taki for the rest of this season? (Even at half speed....) True... Wilson and Taki are lifetime special teamers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, hx214 said: is he better than Mack Wilson or Taki Taki Collins is definitely better at ignoring coaches, intentionally doing something other than his assignment, and being unfocused. If he had talent he wouldn't have been cut by the 0-3 Lions. Collins may very well even today hit better combine measurables while wearing shorts, but both Wilson and Taki are better football players. Whether intentionally or not, Collins has zero communication skills and is too pigheaded to have the humility to take direction. It's a stupid position on his part because his chosen profession requires him to be willing [aka "bought in"] to be just one of several people acting in unison. This was exactly the way Collins played when he was a Brown a few years ago, and even a short conversation with current coaches or players would show he hasn't changed. This may be a life lesson for you and others as well --- There is no such "Skill" in any profession that allows a person to never communicate with others. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Jamie Collins?? Really?? He makes a great commentator. Especially when he wears the orange tie. I certainly don't want him as a player anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Orion said: Jamie Collins?? Really?? He makes a great commentator. Especially when he wears the orange tie. I certainly don't want him as a player anymore. Regarding Collins? Just NO!!! If the Lions cut him, after garnering zero interest in a trade- (not even worth a 2023 seventh round pick to any team in the NFL) that's all you need to know.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Now if we were talking Kerry I'd be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, D Bone said: Now if we were talking Kerry I'd be in. Or Gary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Zombo said: No ... The guy is not 100% committed, wouldn't fit on this team. Z This dude is lazy bum unless Bill is threatening to fuck his moms corpse (I'm trying to be sensitive here). We seen this tape before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 hours ago, hoorta said: Regarding Collins? Just NO!!! If the Lions cut him, after garnering zero interest in a trade- (not even worth a 2023 seventh round pick to any team in the NFL) that's all you need to know.... If I'm reading this right as I'm not a capologist, they took a 8 million dead cap hit to tell him to fuck off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, WarriorsRpussies said: If I'm reading this right as I'm not a capologist, they took a 8 million dead cap hit to tell him to fuck off Lions have 57M+ dead on 2021 cap, featuring 19M for Stafford. Jamie Collins not being on the team represents a 13.67M total dead charge spread over 2021 and 2022.. insane Overthecap - look at the "Earnings By Team" section, the "Paid as dead money" column is quoted. Total cap charge is 20M for his lions contract from 2020-2022, 6.33 was his 2020 cost, the rest is dead. Note at the bottom of his page, the "dead money history" cap charges for 2021 and 2022 add to 13.67. Ignore the cash paid entries.. I really don't know why any site attempts to track that. I also don't know why OTC shows only 5.53 dead for 2021 for Collins on the team salary page.. should include the 1.8 as well for a total of 7.33. My guess is that we'll have to remember moving forward that OTC doesn't include bonuses when they do calculations for dead$$ -- have to click through to the player's contract to verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 20 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: Collins is definitely better at ignoring coaches, intentionally doing something other than his assignment, and being unfocused. If he had talent he wouldn't have been cut by the 0-3 Lions. Collins may very well even today hit better combine measurables while wearing shorts, but both Wilson and Taki are better football players. Whether intentionally or not, Collins has zero communication skills and is too pigheaded to have the humility to take direction. It's a stupid position on his part because his chosen profession requires him to be willing [aka "bought in"] to be just one of several people acting in unison. This was exactly the way Collins played when he was a Brown a few years ago, and even a short conversation with current coaches or players would show he hasn't changed. This may be a life lesson for you and others as well --- There is no such "Skill" in any profession that allows a person to never communicate with others. Exactly. Guys like him plague teams wanting to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 5:01 PM, D Bone said: Now if we were talking Kerry I'd be in. On 9/29/2021 at 5:22 PM, Dutch Oven said: Or Gary... Or Tom. 😋 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 or vodka? Just what I was looking for... another Jamie Collins argument .Yes, he's long in the tooth for an OLB, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.That said we all know our FO does not value LBs so that ends that. As for lazy... he led us in tackles in our 0-fer season. Any idea how hard it is to put out all season with out sniffing a win? A: real effin hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 10:38 AM, Unsympathetic said: Lions have 57M+ dead on 2021 cap, featuring 19M for Stafford. Jamie Collins not being on the team represents a 13.67M total dead charge spread over 2021 and 2022.. insane Overthecap - look at the "Earnings By Team" section, the "Paid as dead money" column is quoted. Total cap charge is 20M for his lions contract from 2020-2022, 6.33 was his 2020 cost, the rest is dead. Note at the bottom of his page, the "dead money history" cap charges for 2021 and 2022 add to 13.67. Ignore the cash paid entries.. I really don't know why any site attempts to track that. I also don't know why OTC shows only 5.53 dead for 2021 for Collins on the team salary page.. should include the 1.8 as well for a total of 7.33. My guess is that we'll have to remember moving forward that OTC doesn't include bonuses when they do calculations for dead$$ -- have to click through to the player's contract to verify. Wow! I was off. Wish I could get paid even 1 percent of that to not come into work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just to be clear : Cash deposited to the player's account is not always the annual cap charge. Good article on cash paid vs cap charge Dead money formula is : [total amount of money already paid during contract] + [remaining guaranteed money] - [total cap hit already taken over the course of the contract]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzz2 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Jaylon smith was just released by the Cowboys, who I believe are still on the hook for his 7.5m salary according to reports. I would take him over JC in a Cleveland minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Pats working to bring back Collins -- Good, let them once more deal with his nonsense. Cowboys article about Jaylon Smith -- His injury vs OSU was really severe and today's reality is he's just not athletic enough for the NFL. 2021 jaylon smith does not beat any of our current LB's for a roster spot. You're thinking of his 2018 version.. as Dallas did when they resigned him. This thread should die.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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