TypicalBrowns50 Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 The browns are basically screwed. We canβt scheme you throws down the field cuz baker canβt make throws down the field. OBJ is worthless. He was Open all day today and we couldnβt get him the ball.Β Β injuries to the oline are definitely to blame but Iβm not going to keep blaming injuries for a loss. A BAD loss.Β Β we are done. Weβre not better than the bengals or ravens. Those teams will wipe theΒ floor with us. Itβs about coaching more than anything. We dontΒ have consistent coaching.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Honest response.Β Β Do you pay that QB 25+ a year though?Β No. You pass on extending Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Where do we get a QB from if we let Baker walk? Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 I watch Malik Willis last night Liberty QB supposed top guy at the very least first rounder looked Meh against ULM.Β Wasnβt impressed.Β Baker is a better option than anyone coming out this year. But if guys like Russ and Aaron are on the market. Β Whatever it takes you get them.Β Β while having a war chest of guys like Newsome and Wills is intriguing. Β A steady hand is more intriguing. Β Β A Game like this makes you sipΒ Jim Beam save the good stuff for a better dayΒ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, LondonBrown said: Where do we get a QB from if we let Baker walk? Β The biggest and most lingering question in professional football,Β do you need a " franchise quarterback "Β to win it all in the NFL ?Β Β (of course you do) If so where do you get one and how much do you pay him ? The BROWNS thought Baker Mayfield was their guy and paid a lot for him.Β Β Were they right ? Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Oh when the BROWNS were 3-1 many people were talking about the super bowl........ now at just 3-3 will they even make the playoffs. Too early for that talk ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, mjp28 said: The biggest and most lingering question in professional football,Β do you need a " franchise quarterback "Β to win it all in the NFL ?Β Β (of course you do) If so where do you get one and how much do you pay him ? The BROWNS thought Baker Mayfield was their guy and paid a lot for him.Β Β Were they right ? Β I like Baker he came into an utter shambles of aΒ club at theΒ time and his rookie year (with all that going on) was extremely impressive.Β He's having some struggles this season but he has also played some very good games.Β Baker is a franchise QB, he would start for a hell of a lot of the 32 teams in the NFL.Β I really don't see how we can get a QB who is better than him, they dont growΒ on trees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: I likeο»Ώ Bakerο»Ώ ο»Ώheο»Ώο»Ώο»Ώο»Ώ ο»Ώο»Ώο»Ώcameο»Ώ ο»Ώinto an utterο»Ώ ο»Ώshambleο»Ώο»Ώsο»Ώο»Ώ Baker has done good by this franchise. He's not a troublemaker,Β is extremely competitive, and does everything he can to help the team. I almost feel Cleveland doesn't deserve him sometimes. I don't know many qb's that could do more with the situation the team is in right now.Β 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Neo said: Baker has done good by this franchise. He's not a troublemaker,Β is extremely competitive, and does everything he can to help the team. I almost feel Cleveland doesn't deserve him sometimes. I don't know many qb's that could do more with the situation the team is in right now.Β So you are saying you would feel comfortable signing him to an extension that would tie up a lot of the cap space for almost the rest of the decade?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: So you are saying you would feel comfortable signing him to an extension that would tie up a lot of the cap space for almost the rest of the decade?Β That's the part I am not sure about but gun to head, yeah I would. I just keep going back to thinking, how do we get better?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: So you are saying you would feel comfortable signing him to an extension that would tie up a lot of the cap space for almost the rest of the decade?Β I know Baker isn't perfect, but he is the perfect qb for this team. Any team that has their franchise qb are not going to be letting them go and I don't see a massive upgrade from Baker being available. So to answer your question,Β yes.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 I have just realised you didn't quote me there, oh well I have replied anywayΒ π€£ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, mjp28 said: Especially if they have a few more halftimes. It's still 14-23Β Β -but-Β Β I π love comebacks ! damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, TypicalBrowns50 said: The browns are basically screwed. We canβt scheme you throws down the field cuz baker canβt make throws down the field. OBJ is worthless. He was Open all day today and we couldnβt get him the ball.Β Β injuries to the oline are definitely to blame but Iβm not going to keep blaming injuries for a loss. A BAD loss.Β Β we are done. Weβre not better than the bengals or ravens. Those teams will wipe theΒ floor with us. Itβs about coaching more than anything. We dontΒ have consistent coaching.Β calm down asΒ i said before it is early in the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, ATOM said: calm down asΒ i said before it is early in the season While I would agree to calm down, SLIGHTLY, The Β BrownsΒ are over a 3rd into the season. As Yogi once said, βitβs getting late earlyβ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Browns149 said: While I would agree to calm down, SLIGHTLY, The Β BrownsΒ are over a 3rd into the season. As Yogi once said, βitβs getting late earlyβ as once rogers said RELAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, ATOM said: as once rogers said RELAX So letβs trade for that guy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 WELL today sucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: That's the part I am not sure about but gun to head, yeah I would. I just keep going back to thinking, how do we get better?Β I really struggled answering this when it was asked of me by tia, too.Β I do not think Baker is or will be a top-level QB, but I also think he can be a good, long-term QB for the Browns, and I agree, that isn't something to dismiss easily.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 trade Mayfield, odel, Chubb and Ward.Β Fire the coach tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 oh well im gone see u all next thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 just seeing who bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Neo said: I know Baker isn't perfect, but he is the perfect qb for this team. Any team that has their franchise qb are not going to be letting them go and I don't see a massive upgrade from Baker being available. So to answer your question,Β yes.Β I agree, I don't easily see an upgrade available to Baker right now. I have no idea what "I know Baker isn't perfect, but he is the perfect QB for this team" means, and if means something about how "gritty" he is, I'm going to just nod blankly at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I really struggled answering this when it was asked of me by tia, too.Β I do not think Baker is or will be a top-level QB, but I also think he can be a good, long-term QB for the Browns, and I agree, that isn't something to dismiss easily.Β I think with your second sentence you have answered it. A good long term QB will do us just fine!Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, ATOM said: WELL today sucked Pittsburgh just jumped to a 14-0 lead, so it just keeps on keepin' on.Β π€£ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, LondonBrown said: I think with your second sentence you have answered it. A good long term QB will do us just fine!Β Like Andy Dalton did in Cincinnati?Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, tiamat63 said: He didn't have to be impressive. He made plays with his legs when they were there and distributed the ball to the open man.Β He didn't have to be impressive on a day where the opposing offense implodes.Β As the old saying goes......................."Scoreboard!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Like Andy Dalton did in Cincinnati?Β Regular post seasonΒ appearancesΒ and then see what happens in the playoffs? I wouldnt say no mate Lets not forget what Baker has already done to Pittsburgh in the playoffs in their own back yard. And if not for that bullshit no flag headbutt in Kansas who knows..... And from where we were when we drafted Baker? People are turning on him too quick, he's a very good QB and we haven't had one of those for years Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Pittsburgh just jumped to a 14-0 lead, so it just keeps on keepin' on.Β π€£ shit im gonna damnit fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 18, 2021 Report Share Posted October 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Regular post seasonΒ appearancesΒ and then see what happens in the playoffs? I wouldnt say no mate Lets not forget what Baker has already done to Pittsburgh in the playoffs in their own back yard. And if not for that bullshit no flag headbutt in Kansas who knows..... And from where we were when we drafted Baker? People are turning on him too quick, he's a very good QB and we haven't had one of those for years Β I can't disagree vehemently against any of this, but I think he's a good starting QB with an overall production ceiling that he's pretty much reached. I question if Baker is going to get much better than what he is today, but as you mentioned before, finding someone better is not something easily done.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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