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Dutch Oven

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Brian Brennen is my guess.  

 

Some might say Bernie.  I don't think so.  As the color guy on radio you might have 15 seconds to get your though out.  I think Bernie tries to get too deep.

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2 minutes ago, ballpeen said:

Brian Brennen is my guess.

He would be great... Wish they would give the gig to Bernie... He sees plays before the snap...

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2 minutes ago, nickers said:

He would be great... Wish they would give the gig to Bernie... He sees plays before the snap...

You added your comment while I was editing mine...lol  With bernie you sometime benefit by seeing the replay as he makes his comments.

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Another thought on the radio guy.  In TV, the play by play and color guy are almost a 50/50 team.  In radio, it is maybe 80% to play by play guy.  It takes them more to  more or less diagram the play for the listener where on tv the people have seen it. 

 

The play by play guy on TV isn't announcing that Chubb is up to the 30, cuts inside, stiff arms a man, etc.  The radio guy does, and is always announcing this a fraction after it has already happened.  He also need time to announce the set and players, motion, etc, leaving little time for the color guy to say a whole lot.

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1 hour ago, ballpeen said:

Another thought on the radio guy.  In TV, the play by play and color guy are almost a 50/50 team.  In radio, it is maybe 80% to play by play guy.  It takes them more to  more or less diagram the play for the listener where on tv the people have seen it. 

 

The play by play guy on TV isn't announcing that Chubb is up to the 30, cuts inside, stiff arms a man, etc.  The radio guy does, and is always announcing this a fraction after it has already happened.  He also need time to announce the set and players, motion, etc, leaving little time for the color guy to say a whole lot.

The color guy basically explains what happened.. Why it worked , or did not work...

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2 hours ago, ballpeen said:

Another thought on the radio guy.  In TV, the play by play and color guy are almost a 50/50 team.  In radio, it is maybe 80% to play by play guy.  It takes them more to  more or less diagram the play for the listener where on tv the people have seen it. 

 

 

Gib Shanley was fantastic at painting the picture for the radio listener.  Nev Chandler was real good too. 

Jim Donovan is very weak at this IMHO. 

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26 minutes ago, Bob806 said:

Gib Shanley was fantastic at painting the picture for the radio listener.  Nev Chandler was real good too. 

Jim Donovan is very weak at this IMHO. 

Shanley was B O R I N G!.... Nev was the best bar none!.. Donovan spits too much...

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14 minutes ago, nickers said:

Shanley was B O R I N G!.... Nev was the best bar none!.. Donovan spits too much...

Naw, Gib was great. I still remember some of his great calls. Phipps to Pitts MNF in San Diego 1972. Browns over Steelers in '72 on a GW FG by Cockroft. 1980 season he was brilliant too, and don't forget he told it like it was with the Iranian hostage crisis.

"Pruitt out of the I to the T, Rucker split left, Newsome in motion..."  

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1 hour ago, Bob806 said:

Naw, Gib was great. I still remember some of his great calls. Phipps to Pitts MNF in San Diego 1972. Browns over Steelers in '72 on a GW FG by Cockroft. 1980 season he was brilliant too, and don't forget he told it like it was with the Iranian hostage crisis.

"Pruitt out of the I to the T, Rucker split left, Newsome in motion..."  

I agree with Gib.  Cleveland has been lucky with good announcers in the NFL,  MLB and NBA  teams over the years.   

Particularly with baseball but everyone has their own favorites. 

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2 hours ago, Bob806 said:

Naw, Gib was great. I still remember some of his great calls. Phipps to Pitts MNF in San Diego 1972. Browns over Steelers in '72 on a GW FG by Cockroft. 1980 season he was brilliant too, and don't forget he told it like it was with the Iranian hostage crisis.

"Pruitt out of the I to the T, Rucker split left, Newsome in motion..."  

Again.... B O R I N G!

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With Joe Thomas apparently out of the running, I'd be cool with Andre Knott getting the job as color commentator next to Donovan. 

And I can't imagine Rick Manning will be doing the color job for the Guardians for way too long, so let me throw out Jensen Lewis as Matt Underwood's sidekick eventually too. I really like Knott and Lewis, they do a very good job for their respective teams. (Knott does Guardians work too)

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Too bad about Joe Thomas. I can't imagine it would take that much time away from your family but it's his life. Never heard Brian Brennan on the radio. I doubt Brian Sipe would want to come back for the job. Bernie would be okay if he can stay off the sauce. Hanford Dixon is a pretty gregarious fellow. Tim Couch?

WSS

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On 4/15/2022 at 7:55 AM, Westside Steve said:

Too bad about Joe Thomas. I can't imagine it would take that much time away from your family but it's his life. Never heard Brian Brennan on the radio. I doubt Brian Sipe would want to come back for the job. Bernie would be okay if he can stay off the sauce. Hanford Dixon is a pretty gregarious fellow. Tim Couch?

WSS

Tim Couch actually does a great job of detailing and breaking down plays

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The some that listen to NFL radio, may have heard of a former Buckeye & 49'ers lineman nicknamed 'Boon-ie'.. Aka... Alex Boone... raised in Lakewood,Ohio..

I believe he's back living in Columbus,Ohio? And knows what he's seeing.. I've always thought he'd be excellent at this kind of analyst job opening..

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On 4/12/2022 at 12:46 PM, mjp28 said:

I agree with Gib.  Cleveland has been lucky with good announcers in the NFL,  MLB and NBA  teams over the years.   

Particularly with baseball but everyone has their own favorites. 

And then the Steelers had to listen to Myron Cope.  :D 

On 4/12/2022 at 7:25 PM, Dutch Oven said:

With Joe Thomas apparently out of the running, I'd be cool with Andre Knott getting the job as color commentator next to Donovan. 

And I can't imagine Rick Manning will be doing the color job for the Guardians for way too long, so let me throw out Jensen Lewis as Matt Underwood's sidekick eventually too. I really like Knott and Lewis, they do a very good job for their respective teams. (Knott does Guardians work too)

I've listened to Knott on Red Zone, but I doubt he's got the expertise to be the color commentator breaking down plays. Certainly not in Bernie's League...  

On 4/16/2022 at 8:45 AM, nickers said:

Tim Couch actually does a great job of detailing and breaking down plays

I agree, Couch was very good doing commentating on Browns preseason games.  

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3 hours ago, hoorta said:

And then the Steelers had to listen to Myron Cope.  :D 

I've listened to Knott on Red Zone, but I doubt he's got the expertise to be the color commentator breaking down plays. Certainly not in Bernie's League...  

I agree, Couch was very good doing commentating on Browns preseason games.  

Andre Knott meh!

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3 hours ago, hoorta said:

I've listened to Knott on Red Zone, but I doubt he's got the expertise to be the color commentator breaking down plays. Certainly not in Bernie's League...   

While Knott obviously never played at the NFL level like Bernie (he did play college ball at Kent State), he also has never been accused of calling games drunk, so there's that. 😉

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Names are all pretty blah here.  when he’s not wearing maize and blue Charles Woodson isn’t bad. Fox gave him a promotion may have to open up the checkbook 

No to Knott though.  
 

Love Bernie but he’s too off the cuff for this generation
 

But Does it have to be a clevelander? Or someone associated with the team?

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On 4/16/2022 at 12:15 PM, Gorka said:

So Joe, are you not watching the Browns on Sundays anyway?

I bet your kids are an afterthought those 3 hrs. 

The radio gig is more than 3 hours on Sundays.  A typical away game is flying out of town on Saturday morning if not Friday night.  Even home games probably mean dinner with NFL friends on Saturday evenings and be at the stadium 4-5 hours before kick on Sundays.  You also have game prep several days before the game. Those guys are also on the home station early Monday mornings to review the game for listeners.  As employees of the Browns, they have various duties involved such as showing up at golf outings and various fund raiser dinners all year long.

 

It's more than just showing up for a 3 hour broadcast.  It's a year around job.

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On 4/15/2022 at 7:55 AM, Westside Steve said:

Too bad about Joe Thomas. I can't imagine it would take that much time away from your family but it's his life. Never heard Brian Brennan on the radio. I doubt Brian Sipe would want to come back for the job. Bernie would be okay if he can stay off the sauce. Hanford Dixon is a pretty gregarious fellow. Tim Couch?

WSS

 

I mentioned above how it takes more time than one thinks, and a great deal is on weekends, the timeframe Joe mentioned to be with his school aged kids.

 

I mentioned Brennan because a few years ago, I would listen to WTAM while driving back to Chattanooga on Monday mornings after the game.  You could pick it up all the way to Cincy before much fade took place. This was when WTAM held the broadcast to Browns games up until a few years ago.  Brennan had 2-3 regular 7 minute spots to recap the game.  I thought he did a good job.

 

Dixson might have been the rising star for the spot, but with the troubles he had, he seems to have faded in to the background.  At least I don't hear much of him, but I may not be listening in the right places.  I don't live in the area or seek out various streaming options.. 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, ballpeen said:

 

I mentioned above how it takes more time than one thinks, and a great deal is on weekends, the timeframe Joe mentioned to be with his school aged kids.

 

I mentioned Brennan because a few years ago, I would listen to WTAM while driving back to Chattanooga on Monday mornings after the game.  You could pick it up all the way to Cincy before much fade took place. This was when WTAM held the broadcast to Browns games up until a few years ago.  Brennan had 2-3 regular 7 minute spots to recap the game.  I thought he did a good job.

 

Dixson might have been the rising star for the spot, but with the troubles he had, he seems to have faded in to the background.  At least I don't hear much of him, but I may not be listening in the right places.  I don't live in the area or seek out various streaming options.. 

 

 

 

Reggie Langhorne has great understanding and breaks down plays well.. His voice however might not be radio ready for some.

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On 4/12/2022 at 11:09 AM, Bob806 said:

Naw, Gib was great. I still remember some of his great calls. Phipps to Pitts MNF in San Diego 1972. Browns over Steelers in '72 on a GW FG by Cockroft. 1980 season he was brilliant too, and don't forget he told it like it was with the Iranian hostage crisis.

"Pruitt out of the I to the T, Rucker split left, Newsome in motion..."  

Loved the Gibber. Grew up on him and he is still my fave.

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