Korsou Dawg Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 There seems to be even more to this story: Jadeveon Clowney refused to play on first and second down vs. Ravens Can't imagine refusing to take the field when healthy does his value as a FA any good. Good riddance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Another head scratcher. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Has ever a Browns season been complete without some sort of drama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted January 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, FY56 said: Has ever a Browns season been complete without some sort of drama? Not in recent memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 From Korsou's link. Speaking to the media, defensive line coach Chris Kiffin confirmed parts of the story, specifically that Clowney refused to take the field on early downs against the Ravens. Kiffin stated Clowney told him it was due to a lingering injury, but it is clear that is far from the truth. Kiffin then went on to say he called Clowney out in front of the entire defensive line room and Clowney did not give an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALCON7 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Clowney just wanted off work (I'm sure with full pay). No practice, meetings, or travel/play to Pitt. Better than faking another injury... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 I feel like the elephant in the room is how many times this has happened under this coaching staff. Look, I know OBJ and Mayfield are a bit off kilter but it’s pretty hard not to wonder why this level of insubordination isn’t happening around the league. It has just felt for a while there is a severe lack of leadership. Seeing, for example, what McDermott is doing and has done in Buffalo is so much different than what we see here. Stef earned another year in my opinion but I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in a fresh defensive coordinator with a real “this guy can take your job” mentality. Zimmer would never come here but just using him as an example of what I’m thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: I feel like the elephant in the room is how many times this has happened under this coaching staff. Look, I know OBJ and Mayfield are a bit off kilter but it’s pretty hard not to wonder why this level of insubordination isn’t happening around the league. It has just felt for a while there is a severe lack of leadership. Seeing, for example, what McDermott is doing and has done in Buffalo is so much different than what we see here. Stef earned another year in my opinion but I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in a fresh defensive coordinator with a real “this guy can take your job” mentality. Zimmer would never come here but just using him as an example of what I’m thinking. I would be all in on Jim Leanahrd or whatever his name is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, nickers said: I would be all in on Jim Leanahrd Was he that little, slow old guy we had as a back up DB a bunch of years ago? He ended up having to be an every down player because of injuries. He even ended up being a punt returner because of injuries and other backups fumbling and mishandling the punts. He wasn't gonna get us any punt return yards but he wasn't going to screw it up...which was how dire our need was. He was a smart player. He used his intelligence to know where he should be/go at all times because he wasn't going out-run anyone to somewhere. I remember thinking that he'd probably make a good coach someday. (wasn't he older than the coach he played for?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Orion said: Was he that little, slow old guy we had as a back up DB a bunch of years ago? He ended up having to be an every down player because of injuries. He even ended up being a punt returner because of injuries and other backups fumbling and mishandling the punts. He wasn't gonna get us any punt return yards but he wasn't going to screw it up...which was how dire our need was. He was a smart player. He used his intelligence to know where he should be/go at all times because he wasn't going out-run anyone to somewhere. I remember thinking that he'd probably make a good coach someday. (wasn't he older than the coach he played for?) I don't remember honestly... He's a name I remember and is someone who is thought to be creative... His name has surfaced recently rumored to wind up at several possible NFL destinations.. We'll see how it shakes out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, nickers said: I don't remember honestly... He's a name I remember and is someone who is thought to be creative... His name has surfaced recently rumored to wind up at several possible NFL destinations.. We'll see how it shakes out.... Turns out he's played for us... He's got interesting credentials... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leonhard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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