Westside Steve Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 No article anywhere.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, nickers said: No article anywhere.. Don't know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 We got a D draft grade!! Wooooo!! Bringin the pain!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: We got a D draft grade!! Wooooo!! Bringin the pain!! Actually there are all over the map. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Actually there are all over the map. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/30/23705423/cleveland-browns-2023-nfl-draft-grades-what-analysts-are-saying Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Kvoethe is a troll. Facts don't matter to trolls. He's the type of guy that trolls the Browns game threads when they are losing, disappears from sight when they are winning. The guy used to do the same nonsense on the Tavern, too. 🤣 Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: We got a D draft grade!! Wooooo!! Bringin the pain!! LOL. Yep - draft grades at this point, though, are nonsense. If teams draft great, and the players do great, it was a great draft. Trouble is, what often looks like an "A" can turn out to be a "D" or even an "F". So many years, so many high hopes. So many picks that seemed like great picks, turn out to be crap picks. Basically, it's the big step up to the pros that divides the loser draftees who don't love the game, etc, from the guys drafted who love the game, have the work ethic to prove it by becoming the best they can be. The Browns' problem - seems to me - has been they didn't take love for the game into consideration - they drafted on college ratings and physical profiles - like flips of a coin with their hits/misses. Look at the history: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/draft.htm braylon edwards, for just one example. Should have been a star wr every year. but his head was screwed on wrong. Time will tell the actual grade. I thought the Browns drafted a Tyreek Hill. But he was only a track star who didn't love football. Just wasn't a football player. etc etc. So, outside of the fact that the Browns STUPIDLY don't have their first round pick AGAIN next year - and traded their second round pick away (the trade itself was a good one) - maybe, just maybe, the Browns had an "A" draft if they didn't get any duds. TIme will tell the grades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: Wins matter and you are a creepy internet stalker. You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll. But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! 🙂 With some luck, nickers will too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: You literally are nowhere to be found when the Browns win, troll. But hey, you got a like from another "Browns fan" who literally is rooting for them to lose in calfox. Good for you! 🙂 With some luck, nickers will too! Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage 30 minutes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji... Left handed right? Other one on little dutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Just now, Kvoethe said: Much quicker Dutch...just an emoji... Left handed right? Other one on little dutch? It's always fun to watch when a troll suddenly is all in his feelings. Maybe next time! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Reason for concern? Hmm....I'm not really sure. It's voluntary...it's just working out....I guess..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Kvoethe said: Slowin down stalker...you are usually quicker with your witty stalker garbage 30 minutes... He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, nickers said: He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up! nickers has been very cranky this weekend. I'm guessing that hot mom of his grounded him again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 minutes Nickers. He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs. Starting stalking timer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Westside Steve said: I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, syd said: the article is there and i would not worry about nick could be he just had something going on I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, nickers said: I'm not worried either...But becoming a pass heavy team cannot be encouraging to him... you still need a run game and Nick is the best around and i am sure he want's that ring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: 4 minutes Nickers. He clapped back...musta been between rub and tugs. Starting stalking timer... Without doubt, the two most humorous things about trolls are: 1. How incredibly easy it is to troll a troll, and... 2. How incredibly pissed off trolls get when this happens. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, syd said: you still need a run game As long as the run is successful I'm sure we will use it. Becoming a better, more effective and more respected passing team would not hurt Nick's YPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 hours ago, nickers said: He's the Forum Asshole , Hands down... Ass up! actually i believe that award go's to you nickers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Orion said: As long as the run is successful I'm sure we will use it. Becoming a better, more effective and more respected passing team would not hurt Nick's YPC. I agree it will not and I am also looking forward to see what Ford brings to the game 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, syd said: I agree it will not and I am also looking forward to see what Ford brings to the game Yeah, it was a small sample size, but the kid looked good on kickoff returns at the end of the season. And I think he could - possibly easily - be an upgrade over what Hunt brought the team, especially as the season wore on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Yeah, it was a small sample size, but the kid looked good on kickoff returns at the end of the season. And I think he could - possibly easily - be an upgrade over what Hunt brought the team, especially as the season wore on. ya it sucks about Hunt Damn he was just a angry back (i loved the guy) but there is just so much in the tank and his ran out it seams #34 I hope is the next man up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Westside Steve said: I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku I don't think Nick has done the off season stuff in Cleveland for several years. He goes back to his High School in Cedartown, Ga. and works out there with the HS team. Sort of a give back deal. He gets his work in. I know some vid made the rounds of him squatting 600 lbs last year or the year before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Always Ghoolie Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 8:29 AM, Westside Steve said: I love the guy and don't worry about dedication. Just a little bit worried whenever off season training gets skipped because it seems like guys are getting hurt a lot more often these days. Don't know if there's a correlation or how strong. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/4/26/23698408/daily-dawg-chow-4-26-cleveland-browns-kevin-stefanski-deshaun-watson-myles-garrett-nick-chubb-njoku When I was a kid, my asshole parents forced me into accordion competitions. In all humility, if there was such a thing as a badass accordion player, it was me. While dickheads were presenting mundane Lawrence Welk shit, I was ripping off Flight of the Bumble Bee One particular competition, held at a school found each kid in his own room, practicing the piece they were about to perform. My teacher, a true Maestro, kept my accordion until 2 minutes before I went up on stage. That was my warm up, and in the room, he gave me a Mad Magazine to read. Chubb doesn't need this off season bullshit. He is the best runner in the NFL. What he needs is a coach who know how to use him and punish opposing defenses from the very opening drive. What he has now is an assfuck who puts the guy into obvious run situations over and oclver and over. Chubb has practiced his entire life. He will.tune up when camp starts. Guys need a life. No amount of off season drills are going to make Stefanski a good head coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said: When I was a kid, my asshole parents forced me into accordion competitions. In all humility, if there was such a thing as a badass accordion player, it was me. While dickheads were presenting mundane Lawrence Welk shit, I was ripping off Flight of the Bumble Bee One particular competition, held at a school found each kid in his own room, practicing the piece they were about to perform. My teacher, a true Maestro, kept my accordion until 2 minutes before I went up on stage. That was my warm up, and in the room, he gave me a Mad Magazine to read. Chubb doesn't need this off season bullshit. He is the best runner in the NFL. What he needs is a coach who know how to use him and punish opposing defenses from the very opening drive. What he has now is an assfuck who puts the guy into obvious run situations over and oclver and over. Chubb has practiced his entire life. He will.tune up when camp starts. Guys need a life. No amount of off season drills are going to make Stefanski a good head coach. Spot on , Ghoolie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/1/2023 at 12:51 PM, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said: When I was a kid, my asshole parents forced me into accordion competitions. In all humility, if there was such a thing as a badass accordion player, it was me. While dickheads were presenting mundane Lawrence Welk shit, I was ripping off Flight of the Bumble Bee One particular competition, held at a school found each kid in his own room, practicing the piece they were about to perform. My teacher, a true Maestro, kept my accordion until 2 minutes before I went up on stage. That was my warm up, and in the room, he gave me a Mad Magazine to read. Chubb doesn't need this off season bullshit. He is the best runner in the NFL. What he needs is a coach who know how to use him and punish opposing defenses from the very opening drive. What he has now is an assfuck who puts the guy into obvious run situations over and oclver and over. Chubb has practiced his entire life. He will.tune up when camp starts. Guys need a life. No amount of off season drills are going to make Stefanski a good head coach. Agree Chubb doesn't need these off-season sessions. He's got plenty of time. The only thing I question is the analogy. One is a mental thing the other is physical. Given a 2-3 week time frame for both, I know that as an accomplished musician or even someone that plays chess, I wouldn't lose a thing if I took a break from playing. However as someone who frequents the gym 5-7 days a week, not going to the gym after 2 or three weeks makes it rough it when I go back. It feels like I never worked out a day in my life. I alternate between cardio workouts and light weights. Light weights and high repetitions in order keep these massive 17-inch biceps in tune. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Always Ghoolie Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 4 hours ago, FY56 said: Agree Chubb doesn't need these off-season sessions. He's got plenty of time. The only thing I question is the analogy. One is a mental thing the other is physical. Given a 2-3 week time frame for both, I know that as an accomplished musician or even someone that plays chess, I wouldn't lose a thing if I took a break from playing. However as someone who frequents the gym 5-7 days a week, not going to the gym after 2 or three weeks makes it rough it when I go back. It feels like I never worked out a day in my life. I alternate between cardio workouts and light weights. Light weights and high repetitions in order keep these massive 17-inch biceps in tune. 😊 I think it depends on what level we are playing. I could, for instance break from the guitar for several weeks and upon returning rip off I know a little, or Chet Atkins version of Mr Sandman and not miss a step. However if I was to play a more challenging classical piece I would probably notice a hitch or two. On the accordion I could leave for a year and come back and play any polka or tex mex/zydeco song that a person would ever want to hear. However, if I attempted the aforementioned Flight of the Bumblebee, my hand would not be in the shape that it needs to be to play at perfection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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