Orion Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Props to Dustin Hopkins!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 So nice having a dependable kicker it's just ...... PRICELESS alright. And they are often the lowest paid players on the entire team. Well even the snappers and holders among others. But when you need them, you need them to W/L a game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, mjp28 said: So nice having a dependable kicker it's just ...... PRICELESS alright. And they are often the lowest paid players on the entire team. Well even the snappers and holders among others. But when you need them, you need them to W/L a game. good to see you here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, syd said: good to see you here Oh yeah, all of my tests scheduled for today were -CANCELED- now I can get back to Cleveland BROWNS football for awhile. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Be well mjp!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Always Ghoolie Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 The Browns will live to regret getting rid of Cade York and Baker. These are future HOF inductees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said: The Browns will live to regret getting rid of Cade York and Baker. These are future HOF inductees. FIFY 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 After the second TD, I went to the bathroom as they were lining up for the extra point. When I got back, I laughed with my dad that I felt it was first time in years I wasn't on baited breath watching it go through the uprights. Hopkins is kicking an extremely clean ball right now, and the concern about 50+ is showing promise given he's made both from that range so far. You can just tell he has extreme confidence- haven't seen that in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 I don't. I want to draft York when we did, and we did. I still think he will be a good kicker in the league, but he wasn't ready for whatever reason, and he still might not. Like any position, there are no sure things. Kickers face more internal pressure than anything, and if that becomes a problem, sometimes those are hard to shake. I played golf to a 2 handicap when I was in my mid 20's through mid 40's, but there were a couple of holes on a couple of local courses that i took some high numbers, and never could get that out of my head and no matter what I did, I just couldn't play them to par. Bogey was a win, and I usually doubled them...or worse. Once that gets in to your head, it's hard to shake. That said, Hopkins is exactly what we need. The ball comes off true. He's going to miss some kicks but if he does I am to the point you just shrug and know its going to happen to the best of them. The added bonus is he came in advertised as having a somewhat limited leg, but he has hit a few in the 53 or so yard range. Sure, if a guy can hit a 62 yard FG, that's great, but you don't really expect that. If your kicker hits it solid and it comes up a yard short from 55, then he gave it the best chance he could. That is all you can ask. It's not like a kicker can turn his leg from a 4 iron to a 3 iron to get some added distance. Just strike the ball true and you get what you get. Coaches know the average true kick distance and the gray area distance his kicker might be able to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/k-dustin-hopkins-named-afc-special-teams-player-of-the-week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 To answer the question by the OP: no. Hopkins is doing everything we could have asked from him. At the same time, I am glad young Cade agreed to a practice squad contract after being released. He clearly has a leg capable of 50+ yards. He just needs to learn how to get it up higher, and to manage his hook and slice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieSuperBowl2 Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 It's nice to have a professional at kicker who isn't a complete head case (York, Codey Parkey). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 Just now, BernieSuperBowl2 said: It's nice to have a professional at kicker who isn't a complete head case (York, Codey Parkey). And Billy Cundiff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 23 hours ago, Korsou Dawg said: He just needs to learn how to get it up higher, and to manage his hook and slice. He's gotta put that 6 iron away and use the 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 11:36 AM, ballpeen said: I don't. I want to draft York when we did, and we did. I still think he will be a good kicker in the league, but he wasn't ready for whatever reason, and he still might not. Like any position, there are no sure things. Kickers face more internal pressure than anything, and if that becomes a problem, sometimes those are hard to shake. I played golf to a 2 handicap when I was in my mid 20's through mid 40's, but there were a couple of holes on a couple of local courses that i took some high numbers, and never could get that out of my head and no matter what I did, I just couldn't play them to par. Bogey was a win, and I usually doubled them...or worse. Once that gets in to your head, it's hard to shake. On paper, it was a good idea to draft York- Groza award winner in college. Could kick the ball out of the stadium. But historically, strange things can happen to great college kickers who get drafted high when the money and pressure of the NFL is involved. Cade is buried on the Titans Practice Squad, so we'll see if he can cure his accuracy woes. Russ, I did have to look it up on Pro Football reference and his career was far longer that I thought it was... Martin "not so" automatica Grammatica. 75% FG% doesn't cut it. Doing some research, there's some very good (even HOF) place kickers that were drafted in the 4th round or higher- and some notable big time busts LOL, the 49ers Mr. Wide Right Jake Moody was drafted #99 overall. Trying to post the table won't work, so for those who have an interest, here's the history of every kicker drafted in the 4th round or higher. 😉 https://www.fanduel.com/research/theduel/highest-drafted-kickers-in-nfl-history-have-any-been-drafted-in-the-first-round-01gyfgykem2p/ For every Sebastian Janikowski, you have a Jeffy DePoyster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 4:42 PM, Orion said: Props to Dustin Hopkins!! ~ Oh yeah, we miss him ..... BBWWWAAAHHHH. ( His one and maybe only glory shot ? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, mjp28 said: ~ Oh yeah, we miss him ..... BBWWWAAAHHHH. ( His one and maybe only glory shot ? ) This man literally kicked himself out of a job.🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Neo said: This man literally kicked himself out of a job.🤨 He was best at kicking himself in the ass every time he stunk up the place with another missed FG.🦨🏈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 great another kicker jinx,,,,,thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 6:38 PM, hoorta said: On paper, it was a good idea to draft York- Groza award winner in college. Could kick the ball out of the stadium. But historically, strange things can happen to great college kickers who get drafted high when the money and pressure of the NFL is involved. Cade is buried on the Titans Practice Squad, so we'll see if he can cure his accuracy woes. Russ, I did have to look it up on Pro Football reference and his career was far longer that I thought it was... Martin "not so" automatica Grammatica. 75% FG% doesn't cut it. Doing some research, there's some very good (even HOF) place kickers that were drafted in the 4th round or higher- and some notable big time busts LOL, the 49ers Mr. Wide Right Jake Moody was drafted #99 overall. Trying to post the table won't work, so for those who have an interest, here's the history of every kicker drafted in the 4th round or higher. 😉 https://www.fanduel.com/research/theduel/highest-drafted-kickers-in-nfl-history-have-any-been-drafted-in-the-first-round-01gyfgykem2p/ For every Sebastian Janikowski, you have a Jeffy DePoyster When you look at it, the make it or break it number is probably pretty close to what it is for any position. The problem kickers face is that there is no back-up position for a kicker. You can't be kind of, sort of good. You need to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 I guess the better question is does Cade York miss Cade York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 16 hours ago, ballpeen said: The problem kickers face is that there is no back-up position for a kicker. You can't be kind of, sort of good. You need to be good. Yup. This is the big leagues. Not all that many years ago we had a punter that could kick FG's. So he was the backup kicker. You'd think there would be more punters that could kick FG's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 K Dustin Hopkins named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week Hopkins made four field goals on Sunday to help lead the Browns to a win over the 49ers Dustin Hopkins named AFC Special Teams Player of the Week for Week 6 (clevelandbrowns.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Pssht. We drafted Cade york and before him we drafted some doofus named Zane and neither one of those guys could kick for shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Cysko Kid said: Pssht. We drafted Cade york and before him we drafted some doofus named Zane and neither one of those guys could kick for shit. Zane Gonzales is doing pretty good in Az Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, nickers said: Zane Gonzales is doing pretty good in Az Well he didn't do shit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Turning out to be a super job by Berry. Dustin Hopkins, another great job! AFC ST Player of the Week two weeks running........no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Dustin Hopkins appreciation post: - 4-for-4 on FGs with 3 coming from 50+ - NFL record 5th straight game with a FG from 50+ - Career-long 58-yarder - 7-for-7 from 50+ this season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) ● WOW, some absolutely amazing kicking numbers. The biggest ONE the BROWNS won by ONE point. SO, what is a kicker worth ? Maybe make / miss the playoffs by ONE game ? It's almost scary. And often kickers are among the lowest paid players on the team. NFL Highest BAL - Tucker $6 Million. (who won today) 15. (tie) CLE - Hopkins $3 Million. ( tied with CHI - Santos $3M ) 31. Lowest DET Patterson $823,333. (who lost todayĺ ● SO, there's your range ..... $6M mid $3M last $823,333. Compare that with any other position on your team -or- any team. You might win -or- lose by ONE kick. Edited October 23, 2023 by mjp28 The lowly KICKER $6M to $823,333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 Two things on Hopkins. First: The knock on him was he had limited distance. Who the heck said that?. They were wrong unless they expect a kicker to nail 65-70 yard kicks. That 58 yard kick he made would have been good from 62-63 yards. No distance my ass. Second: My only question about DH is why was he even available?? He can kick for any team in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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