AP1 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Haslam Buys Land in Brook Park I have been critical of Jimmy Haslem. He's earned it. But it's great to see that he is making major moves for the future of the Browns. My connections to Cleveland are as a fan. I'm not emotionally tied to the area around the stadium. If a new stadium in the suburbs creates a better fan experience I'm all for it. I'm interested in hearing what you guys think of a new stadium in the suburbs vs a renovated stadium at the current site. If this is a push to get a Super Bowl what are the current infrastructure and logistics of Brook Park? Restaurants? Hotels? I know the airport is nearby. I've only flown out of Cleveland twice and haven’t been to that area in 30 years. Every time we visit family in PA, we drive and I'm hopping off 71 onto 271 so I don't get that far north to see everything. I really look forward to hearing what you guys have to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 I rather games be played in the elements... But Money and betting has cancelled traditional football out and has a firm grip on the NFL... My guess is college programs and HS will follow suit.. Football has gone soft... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 They are talking about the Ford Plant location that was ripped down. It's very close to the Airport (less than a mile) so it would be a good location for development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 13 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: They are talking about the Ford Plant location that was ripped down. It's very close to the Airport (less than a mile) so it would be a good location for development. Bingo. As much as I hate to say it, because I'm not one for tax payers footing the bills... the current land the Stadium is on can be redeveloped for downtown condo's and apartments. Along the lakefront, it would make CLE incredibly attractive to go along with the heart and soul she's got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 21 minutes ago, nickers said: I rather games be played in the elements... But Money and betting has cancelled traditional football out and has a firm grip on the NFL... My guess is college programs and HS will follow suit.. Football has gone soft... I'd rather they be played in the elements as well. I want an outdoor stadium. I'm not so much worried about a Super Bowl as I am a great game day Browns' experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Bingo. As much as I hate to say it, because I'm not one for tax payers footing the bills... the current land the Stadium is on can be redeveloped for downtown condo's and apartments. Along the lakefront, it would make CLE incredibly attractive to go along with the heart and soul she's got. I don't like tax payers paying for stadiums either. As it relates to the stadium what's parking like near the current stadium? Does this site allow for more parking near the stadium? Better tailgate opportunities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, nickers said: I rather games be played in the elements... But Money and betting has cancelled traditional football out and has a firm grip on the NFL... My guess is college programs and HS will follow suit.. Football has gone soft... Aren't you the guy putting people on ignore every other day because your tender feelings get hurt so, so easily? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 I would imagine they would build some kind of "ballpark village" around it, like the Patriots did around Foxboro. But I don't quite understand how that works when the stadium you build around only hosts a very small amount of events there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: I would imagine they would build some kind of "ballpark village" around it, like the Patriots did around Foxboro. But I don't quite understand how that works when the stadium you build around only hosts a very small amount of events there... If they build an indoor stadium, they can hold a lot more events. As someone who had season tickets for 18 years, the elements are way overrated IMO. Sure it’s nice to be outside in September and October, but give me climate control, all day long, in December and January. when the team was bad, I couldn’t give the tickets away when the weather sucked at the end of the year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AP1 Posted February 9 Author Report Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I would imagine they would build some kind of "ballpark village" around it, like the Patriots did around Foxboro. But I don't quite understand how that works when the stadium you build around only hosts a very small amount of events there... I'm dating myself, but wasn't that the intention of the Gateway Project? My grandparents took me to Gund Arena before we went to an Indians' game at Jacob's Field. I recall there was a mall connected to Gund Arena. I know indoor malls aren't what they were in the 20th Century, but is it still there? My guess is restaurants, shopping, multi-plex cinemas, Topgolf, breweries, events venues, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, AP1 said: I'm dating myself, but wasn't that the intention of the Gateway Project? My grandparents took me to Gund Arena before we went to an Indians' game at Jacob's Field. I recall there was a mall connected to Gund Arena. I know indoor malls aren't what they were in the 20th Century, but is it still there? My guess is restaurants, shopping, multi-plex cinemas, Topgolf, breweries, events venues, etc. Well there's bars and restaurants all around the Gateway area within walking distance... This ballpark village would be more of building an entertainment area out of nothing. Like how Atlanta did with their new ballpark Truist Park out in the suburbs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted February 9 Author Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Browns149 said: If they build an indoor stadium, they can hold a lot more events. As a proponent of an outdoor stadium, here are biggest upsides of an indoor stadium: Big 10 Football Championship Game MAC Football Championship Game College Football National Championship Game Super Bowl Big 10 Men's Basketball Conference Tournament College Basketball Final Four Big 10 Wrestling Tournament NCAA Wrestling National Championship USA Wrestling National Championships USA Wrestling World Team Trials Wrestling World Championships USA Swimming National Championship Swimming World Championships USA Swimming Olympic Trials Monster Jam, which in a football stadium is awesome compared to the smaller footprint of a basketball arena Conventions and Trade Shows Concerts in the winter and spring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 So I take it nobody saw the effect the wind had on Tyler Bass' heartbreaking field goal in the divisional game and you still want to play in the elements? At the very least, every team should have a retractable roof so you can have options, especially teams that play by the lake. It does not make sense to have a pure outdoor stadium on the shores of Lake Erie when the technology exists. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 23 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: They are talking about the Ford Plant location that was ripped down. It's very close to the Airport (less than a mile) so it would be a good location for development. What Ford plant are you referring to? The only Ford plants I know of around the Cleveland area are the ones in Avon Lake and the engine plant in Brook Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 50 minutes ago, Neo said: What Ford plant are you referring to? The only Ford plants I know of around the Cleveland area are the ones in Avon Lake and the engine plant in Brook Park. The article states: Formerly the site of two Ford Motor Company plants, and next to a third Ford plant that remains active, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Neo said: What Ford plant are you referring to? The only Ford plants I know of around the Cleveland area are the ones in Avon Lake and the engine plant in Brook Park. Brookpark.Cleveland Hopkins International Airport - Google Maps to the right of the airport between Snow Rd. and Brookpark Rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 No brainer. Real grass and retractable roof! It is becoming the standard in both Footballs across the globe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 How many of you have been to other NFL stadiums, and how does Cleveland Browns Stadium compare to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP1 Posted February 9 Author Report Share Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: How many of you have been to other NFL stadiums, and how does Cleveland Browns Stadium compare to them? I'm pretty green. I've been to Three Rivers, the Hoosier Dome, Municipal Stadium and Lucas Oil Stadium. My opinion isn't desirable. To me, Municipal Stadium was like walking on the streets of gold. I know, I know. Buy to a boy whose universe revolved around the Browns, it was the place where my heroes played and where Legends lived forever. The Hoosier Dome was great because it was LOUD...couldn't even hear yourself think loud in the late 90's and 2000s. Lucas Oil Stadium is cavernous. Almost too much. The field is in a bowl below street level. Entrance to the stadium takes place at the top of the first level. There is no experience whether it's HS or the NFL. It's just a big barn. Three rivers was the antithesis geometric sight lines. It's sort of like those seats at Fenway that face center field. Lots of twisting and turning to see little action, far away. I'm no help because I've only been in one modern stadium, and I don't care for it. And it cost $1B and we just finished paying off the Hoosier Dome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 "If they build it, I will come."-"Snowshoeless" Ag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 18 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: How many of you have been to other NFL stadiums, and how does Cleveland Browns Stadium compare to them? One thing for sure we get to see many of the. 32 NFL Football Stadiums however each week on our home 43" 55" and larger super TV sets to get an idea on what else is out there across the good ol' USA ...... from Green Bay to Seattle to LA to Jerry World, TX to everywhere else ! ▪︎--> Now it's so VERY TRUE you can get a really outstanding feel unlike any TV show by being there from the parking lots to having your butt in the seats. <--▪︎ This NFL experience runs every regular season ● from September to February on every Thursday, Saturday, SUNDAY or Monday ● ●~~~~~~~~~~▪︎~~~~~~~~~~▪︎~~~~~~~~~~● One other way you can compare the Cleveland Browns Stadium is to read and watch other opinions. For example : ● Ranking NFL stadiums 2023: Best and worst 30 stadiums in NFL from SPORTSNAUT 27. Cincinnati 23. Cleveland 19. Pittsburgh (previously 16.) 16. Baltimore. Note all open air stadiums in bottom half of the 30. ■ I EMAILED THIS OUT TODAY, SATURDAY 2/10/2024 TO FRIENDS & NEIGHBORS.■ H guy. and gal, Saturday, February 10, 2024, 11:4 am ▪︎--> SEND ▪︎-> 12:14 pm ▪︎> gone-zo ! --> bye 27. Cincinnati 23. Cleveland 19. Pittsburgh (prev. 16.) 16. Baltimore. All in the bottom half, all open air. From mjp. https://sportsnaut.com/ranking-nfl-stadiums-best-worst/ Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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