syd Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 34 minutes ago, Browns149 said: That guy has BUST written all over him I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something. anyway any idea when the wr's are up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 1 Author Report Share Posted March 1 35 minutes ago, Browns149 said: I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy, If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him That's what I've been saying too Brownies! If Chicago gives Fields to Pittsburgh thinking Caleb Williams is an upgrade - that poor fanbase is stuck on pause with hopelessness under the McCaskey family ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, syd said: anyway any idea when the wr's are up ? Tomorrow at 1pm is the start for QBs, RBs and WRs. 8 hours worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Tomorrow at 1pm is the start for QBs, RBs and WRs. 8 hours worth. They better be twitchy and run fast. That DB class can fly.. now to find a TE that can chip/block TJ Watt into crying again 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 #illini Walk on, to starter, to team captain. TE Tip Reiman with a heck of a Combine. Every year, NFL Combine interviews almost always unveil something funny about a prospect. For many prospects, it’s the first time they’re given a big platform to speak in front of multiple national reporters and let NFL fans see who they really are behind the helmet. This year, look no further than Illinois tight end Tip Reiman, who believes that "pigeons are not real". Illinois Tight End Tip Reiman Says Pigeons Aren’t Real “Birds aren’t real” is definitely a conspiracy theory that has gained popularity online in the last few years. While it’s unclear if Reiman actually believes that pigeons aren’t real or if he was just joking around with the media, this story has already taken the Combine by storm. @RieseDraft · Follow Illinois TE Tip Reiman a firm member of “Birds Aren’t Real” movement. “Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?” “How do we know that power lines aren’t pigeon recharging stations?” the hard hitting moments of the combine 10:19 AM · Feb 29, 2024 Reiman played four years with the Fighting Illini and caught 41 passes for 420 yards and five touchdowns throughout his career. He’s a big, rugged blocking tight end who projects to be a Day 3 NFL Draft selection. He measured at 6-foot-4, 273 pounds, and proved in the Shrine Bowl that he can be a competent pass catcher for his size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 13 hours ago, syd said: I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something. anyway any idea when the wr's are up ? To your point above, Williams actually reminds me a lot of Kyler Murray at the college level. At the NFL level, Kyler looks more like a Keebler (Elf) than a keeper. If I had my career riding on the choice of keeping Justin Fields (which also means Marvin Harrison becomes a Chicago Bear) and starting all over with NFL potty training for Caleb Williams by offensive coaches that will be fired within 2 years - it's a pretty easy choice. I can't get the TD:INT ratio Fields had as a sophomore 41:3. Yes, he had great receivers - but Marvin Harrison is the 6'4" and faster version of his HOF father. You add that to WR DJ Moore and a big draft volume of OL to protect the QB - why go way out of the way to overthink it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/ The link above probably has the Combine results and goodies you want to see thus far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 This WR won't be around the Browns 2nd round pick at #54 AD Mitchell is a freak 💥 WR leader going into group two Edit---Texas teammate WR Xavier Worthy 4.25 💥 40..... 2nd run, unofficially ties John Ross 4.22 combine 40 record ! Official edit-- 4.21 40 time official ! Texas WR Xavier Worthy becomes new combine 40 time record holder ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 i watched Damn. wonder why he is not doing the other drills ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Unfortunately WR Ainias Smith from A&M was discovered to have a stress fracture of his shin during the physicals and will not participate in the Combine. He will see a specialist concerning any treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Prior to 2024 NFL Combine rankings https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024 2024 NFL Scouting Combine Results DL ED LB CB S TE RB QB WR OL SP PLAYER COLLEGE COMB# UC ASG POS HGT WGT ARM HAND WING 40 (1) 40 (2) 40 (O) 10 (1) 10 (2) 10 (O) 225 VJ BJ 20S 3C Baker, Javon UCF WO01 WR 6012 202 32 1/4 9 5/8 78 1/4 4.54 4.55 4.54 1.58 N/A 1.58 37.0 10'1" Burton, Jermaine Alabama WO02 WR 6002 196 31 9 7/8 74 7/8 4.46 4.48 4.45 1.55 1.53 1.53 38.5 11'1" Coker, Jalen Holy Cross WO03 WR 6013 208 32 7/8 9 7/8 76 3/4 4.58 4.57 4.57 1.52 N/A 1.52 42.5 10'8" Coleman, Keon Florida State WO04 Y WR 6032 213 32 1/8 9 3/8 78 1/8 4.64 4.62 4.61 1.58 1.54 1.54 38.0 10'7" Corley, Malachi Western Kentucky WO05 WR 5110* 215* DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Cowing, Jacob Arizona WO06 WR 5083 168 29 1/4 9 69 1/8 4.41 4.38 4.38 1.55 1.54 1.54 36.0 9'11" Flournoy, Ryan SE Missouri State WO07 WR 6006 202 31 5/8 10 1/8 76 1/8 4.44 4.48 4.44 1.57 1.53 1.53 39.5 11'0" Franklin, Troy Oregon WO08 Y WR 6017 176 31 7/8 8 3/4 77 1/4 4.41 DNP 4.41 1.61 DNP 1.61 39.0 10'4" Gould, Anthony Oregon State WO09 WR 5083 174 29 5/8 8 7/8 69 7/8 4.40 4.41 DNP 1.49 DNP 1.49 39.5 10'9" Griffin, Lideatrick Mississippi State WO10 WR 5100 181 30 5/8 9 1/8 72 3/4 4.45 4.44 4.43 1.55 N/A 1.55 35.5 10'4' Harrison Jr., Marvin Ohio State WO11 Y WR 6032 209 31 7/8 9 1/2 77 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Jackson, Jha’Quan Tulane WO12 WR 5091 188 30 7/8 8 7/8 74 7/8 4.54 4.42 4.42 1.55 N/A 1.55 32.0 9'10" Johnson, Cornelius Michigan WO13 WR 6026 212 31 7/8 8 5/8 77 1/4 4.45 4.44 DNP 1.55 1.55 37.0 10'7" Legette, Xavier South Carolina WO14 WR 6010 212 31 7/8 8 5/8 77 1/4 4.47 4.39 4.39 1.55 1.54 1.54 40.0 10'6" McCaffrey, Luke Rice WO15 WR 6015 198 30 1/8 9 5/8 74 1/2 4.47 4.50 4.46 1.53 1.52 1.52 36.0 10'1" McConkey, Ladd Georgia WO16 Y WR 5115 186 30 1/4 8 5/8 72 4.43 4.40 4.39 1.53 1.52 1.52 36.0 10'4' McMillan, Jalen Washington WO17 WR 6010 197 32 1/8 10 77 3/8 4.49 4.48 4.47 1.55 1.53 1.53 37.0 10'7" Means, Bub Pittsburgh WO18 WR 6010 212 33 1/4 10 1/8 79 3/8 4.49 4.43 4.43 1.55 N/A 1.55 39.5 10'2' Mitchell, Adonai Texas WO19 Y WR 6022 205 32 3/8 9 77 5/8 4.35 DNP 4.34 1.52 DNP 1.52 39.0 11'4" Nabers, Malik LSU WO21 Y WR 6000* 200* DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Odunze, Rome Washington WO22 Y WR 6027 212 32 1/4 9 1/4 76 3/4 4.47 4.45 4.45 1.52 N/A 1.52 39.0 10'4" Pearsall, Ricky Florida WO23 WR 6010 189 30 7/8 9 1/4 73 3/8 4.41 4.42 4.41 1.59 1.57 1.57 42.0 10'9" Polk, Ja’Lynn Washington WO24 Y WR 6013 203 31 3/4 9 3/4 74 1/2 4.53 4.52 4.52 1.53 1.52 1.52 37.5 10'9" Rice, Brenden USC WO25 WR 6023 208 33 9 5/8 78 4.51 4.50 4.50 1.55 N/A 1.55 36.5 9'11" Robinson, Tayvion Kentucky WO26 WR 5104 191 31 9 1/4 75 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Rosemy-Jacksaint, Marcus Georgia WO27 WR 6011 195 33 10 77 3/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 35.0 9'11" Smith, Ainias Texas A&M WO28 WR 5093 190 29 8 1/2 70 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Thomas Jr., Brian LSU WO29 Y WR 6027 209 32 3/4 9 3/4 79 5/8 4.34 DNP 4.33 1.50 DNP 1.50 38.5 10'6" Thrash, Jamari Louisville WO30 Y WR 5116 188 31 8 5/8 74 1/2 4.46 4.48 4.46 1.54 N/A 1.54 34.0 10'0" Vele, Devaughn Utah WO31 Y WR 6040 203 33 1/2 9 3/4 79 1/8 4.54 4.48 4.47 1.53 N/A 1.53 36.0 10'6" Walker, Devontez North Carolina WO32 Y WR 6014 193 33 1/4 9 1/8 79 1/8 4.36 4.41 4.36 1.54 N/A 1.54 40.5 11'2" Washington, Malik Virginia WO33 WR 5084 191 30 3/8 9 1/4 72 3/8 4.47 4.52 4.47 1.54 1.53 1.53 42.5 10'6" Washington, Tahj USC WO34 WR 5096 174 29 1/8 8 3/8 70 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 35.0 10'2" Weaver, Xavier Colorado WO35 WR 6002 169 31 1/8 8 7/8 73 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Whittington, Jordan Texas WO36 WR 6005 205 30 3/8 10 73 5/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Williams, Isaiah Illinois WO37 Y WR 5092 182 30 1/8 9 1/8 72 3/4 4.64 4.64 4.63 1.59 N/A 1.59 38.0 10'3" Wilson, Johnny Florida State WO38 Y WR 6063 231 35 3/8 10 84 1/2 4.53 4.58 4.52 1.55 N/A 1.55 37.0 10'8" Wilson, Roman Michigan WO39 WR 5106 185 30 3/8 9 3/8 72 1/2 4.41 4.40 4.39 1.52 1.52 DNP DNP Worthy, Xavier Texas WO40 Y WR 5112 165 31 1/8 8 3/4 74 1/4 4.25 4.22 4.21 1.49 1.49 41.0 10'11" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too. The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents. I'd also love for an inside linebacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 55 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too. The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents. I'd also love for an inside linebacker. Agreed. I also think a great Safety can be a game changer. That said, we did drafted a DT (Ika) in round 3 and a DE (McGuire) in round 4 last year as well as a DE (Wright) in round 3 in 2022. A decent surprise last year was a 2020 DT (Elliott) we drafted in round 3 played some pretty good football in the starting rotation. I think Tomlinson returns but I haven't fact checked that one yet. Offensively, there's a good chance we lose Pro Bowl Right Guard (Teller) to FA. Maybe Luke Wypler is up to the challenge of filling that spot or we draft someone or sign a FA. Meanwhile it appears Wills remains our less than enthusiastic LT. If Conklin could freakin stay healthy - we could move Dawand Jones to LT (although he also ended 2023 on IR as did Wills). WRs are irresistible eye candy because it's a passing era and the drop-off from Cooper is big enough for temptation to add another. He's gonna = he hasn't yet. That said, this is a damn good draft for TEs. Sizing them up at the combines by appearance only - it sure looks like there's some dual purpose TEs (like Steve Heiden was here. I'll let my draft magazines tell me how many I got wrong as blockers later this month. As much as I hate typing this - I think there's a really good chance the Browns will draft a RB to share the workload with Chubb. The big volume of FA RBs won't be cheaper than a rookie we can keep longer at cap friendlier prices. Investments for a healthier cap is a NEED. Staying in that thought, Wisconsin's Braelon Allen or Washington's Dillon Johnson are just 2 of an exciting bunch of RBs that could fall to some of our draft slots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 36 minutes ago, Flugel said: Agreed. I also think a great Safety can be a game changer. That said, we did drafted a DT (Ika) in round 3 and a DE (McGuire) in round 4 last year as well as a DE (Wright) in round 3 in 2022. A decent surprise last year was a 2020 DT (Elliott) we drafted in round 3 played some pretty good football in the starting rotation. I think Tomlinson returns but I haven't fact checked that one yet. Offensively, there's a good chance we lose Pro Bowl Right Guard (Teller) to FA. Maybe Luke Wypler is up to the challenge of filling that spot or we draft someone or sign a FA. Meanwhile it appears Wills remains our less than enthusiastic LT. If Conklin could freakin stay healthy - we could move Dawand Jones to LT (although he also ended 2023 on IR as did Wills). WRs are irresistible eye candy because it's a passing era and the drop-off from Cooper is big enough for temptation to add another. He's gonna = he hasn't yet. That said, this is a damn good draft for TEs. Sizing them up at the combines by appearance only - it sure looks like there's some dual purpose TEs (like Steve Heiden was here. I'll let my draft magazines tell me how many I got wrong as blockers later this month. As much as I hate typing this - I think there's a really good chance the Browns will draft a RB to share the workload with Chubb. The big volume of FA RBs won't be cheaper than a rookie we can keep longer at cap friendlier prices. Investments for a healthier cap is a NEED. Staying in that thought, Wisconsin's Braelon Allen or Washington's Dillon Johnson are just 2 of an exciting bunch of RBs that could fall to some of our draft slots. The Draft guides usually come out around St. Patrick's Day, so I'll grab one and get a mock draft (or three) out... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 46 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: The Draft guides usually come out around St. Patrick's Day, so I'll grab one and get a mock draft (or three) out... Thanks Dutch. (or three) 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 here comes the Combine cluster fuk post 1.) Let's try to avoid the over-payments of adding just FA's.. The quality of player, left on the drafting clock, just might be as good as trading for a player at pick #54? (DL/WR) 2.) The early volume of picks, should vary on positions at WR/ OL & a really impressive speed class of Secondary help. 3.) Maybe 2 of 4 QB's, that only Jimmy Haslam/Depo would draft in top 10. 4.) RB, LB & TE class didn't look to hurt their cause for a few going in top 50 picks 5.) The only named studs we may not be in reach of now in Rd.2 ? The Texas Duo at WR/PR/KR A. Mitchell & X.Worthy <<(combine, enjoyed getting know a fun kid!) Time to watch the horses that make offenses go ! Offensive Line 🧐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 6 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too. The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents. I'd also love for an inside linebacker. this and i hope i am right Browns in hot pursuit of 2024 NFL draft offensive linemen at NFL Scouting Combine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Tracking every 2024 NFL draft prospect the Browns have met 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Daniel Jeremiah "Scouts like to see IOL run 10 yard splits of 1.76 w/40's at 4.96" "Tackles/ 10 yard splits of 1.73 w/40's of 4.95" My scorecard of group one reads Tanor Bortolini 4,94-1.69 Frank Crum 4.94-1.69 Tylan Grable 4.96- 1.69 Group 2 (just began) Roger Rosengarten 4.92-1.73 that's all at this time folks. edit- that's the final score of 40's that ran them 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 42 minutes ago, gumby73 said: Daniel Jeremiah "Scouts like to see IOL run 10 yard splits of 1.76 w/40's at 4.96" "Tackles/ 10 yard splits of 1.73 w/40's of 4.95" My scorecard of group one reads Tanor Bortolini 4,94-1.69 Frank Crum 4.94-1.69 Tylan Grable 4.96- 1.69 Group 2 (just began) Roger Rosengarten 4.92-1.73 that's all at this time folks Good analysis from O'Hara and Lewan about the need to make the big guys NOT run 40 yards instead of 20-30 yards or so. Coincidentally, back to back OL pulled up lame 30 yards into their 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 16 minutes ago, Flugel said: Good analysis from O'Hara and Lewan about the need to make the big guys run 40 yards instead of 20-30 yards or so. Coincidentally, back to back OL pulled up lame 30 yards into their 40. footballs played 40 seconds apart.. 3 hundy's shouldn't be line waiting for 2nd 40 yd. runs.. 20 yards may shorten that wait time too.. like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 20 minutes ago, gumby73 said: footballs played 40 seconds apart.. 3 hundy's shouldn't be line waiting for 2nd 40 yd. runs.. 20 yards may shorten that wait time too.. like it Thanks Gumbs. I just realized I left out the most important word NOT so I went back and edited it in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, syd said: Tracking every 2024 NFL draft prospect the Browns have met Not a bad early list. Berry might want to go right back to filling Perrion Winfrey's vacant rookie DT spot, pairing w/Ika in future ? The sleeper of that group, is my favorite Guard, U Conn's Christian Hayes 👀 Room to grow into a solid NFL starter w/NFL coaching. In mock sims, I'd pass Hayes for higher positional needs at #54.. Hayes was gone 3-5 picks later. Can't see Hayes getting to #85 with fake or live drafting. Glad Berry/scouts got Hayes a job interview Stuck in ACC country. I too like Virginia's WR Malik Washington .. But, we don't have his projected 4th round pick slot. Adding Washington pushes E.Moore as the slot receiver. But, it does nothing for us filling a #2 outside WR. Malik Washington fits a Elijah Moore cost raise replacement in recent future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 A&M WR Ainias Smith was unable to participate in all combine activities except one, the 225 lb bench press where he led all WRs with 21 reps. He also participated in the interviews portion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 22 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: A&M WR Ainias Smith was unable to participate in all combine activities except one, the 225 lb bench press where he led all WRs with 21 reps. He also participated in the interviews portion. His doctor didn't clear him to jump out of air planes though - did he? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 16 hours ago, Flugel said: His doctor didn't clear him to jump out of air planes though - did he? Only if he does a tandem with my expert skydiving daughter who can land on one foot without so much as rolling on the ground. Today's parachutes 🪂are more like gliders that can stop on a dime. Totally different from the ones I used which I now refer to as crash and burn chutes.😱☄️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Only if he does a tandem with my expert skydiving daughter who can land on one foot without so much as rolling on the ground. Today's parachutes 🪂are more like gliders that can stop on a dime. Totally different from the ones I used which I now refer to as crash and burn chutes.😱☄️ Were you a paratrooper in the Army? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Were you a paratrooper in the Army? No. I had a jumpmasters license for sport jumping before I went into the service. Shoulder injury precluded being able to pass the physical for airborne school even though I was teaching new jumpers how to skydive. Ironic don't ya think.🙃 I did go sport jump at the Special Forces sport jump zone on Ft Bragg though. My silver wings were skydivers' silver wings, so I was not a fighting soldier from the sky. Besides I did not intend to "jump and die". I preferred to come back home.🤫🪂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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