Unsympathetic Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 NFL Salary Cap next year: 255.4 2024 Browns cap hits per player Current Browns total for 2024 as shown in that second link is 297.5 -- Dealing with this gap is where Berry makes his salary. What is actually going to happen? Even @tiamat63 would lose money making prop bets on Browns salary cap moves this offseason. I'm going to try to keep this thread updated with what gets us under the cap by the date with drafted rookies signed.. so the goal is about 242 for non-rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 Denzel Ward's change which is linked elsewhere makes 2028 a void year at 2.9 and converted 14.2 to signing bonus. Ward's cap hit in 2024 is now 12.1, 0.1 less than his 2023. NFL Cap: 255.4 2/29 Browns : 287.7 Current Available 2024 Salary: [255.4 - 287.7] = -32.3 Because Browns current available cap is negative 32 million, look for every player you can name to go through this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 The NFL cap is one of the most incomprehensible things in sports, if not life. Spotrac does a great job of calculating it however. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap/ @Unsympathetic your calculation seems to miss the '2023 rollover cap' 2024 Cap Totals CAP TYPE BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS INCENTIVES CAP TOTAL 2024 NFL Salary Cap $255,400,000 2023 Rollover Cap $30,690,254 Adjustment $0 Adjusted Salary Cap $286,090,254 All Contracts $156,055,627 $44,370,701 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $272,662,341 Top 51 Contracts $152,080,627 $43,704,033 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $268,687,341 Dead Money - $14,972,779 - - - - - $14,972,779 Total (All) $156,055,627 $59,343,480 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $287,635,120 Total (w/Top 51) $152,080,627 $58,676,812 $10,118,086 $37,398,775 $150,000 $24,209,152 $500,000 $283,660,120 Cap Space (w/All) $-1,544,866 Cap Space (w/Top 51) $2,430,134 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Good idea to have all this information in one spot! Thanks unsympathetic WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, syd said: NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic I have zero interest in OBJ coming back, with the exception of how mad it would make Baker Bros on here. That would be entertaining. 😁 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: That would be entertaining. 😁 LOL Yes it would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted March 5 Author Report Share Posted March 5 If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread. On 3/3/2024 at 2:29 PM, syd said: Updated rumors A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 21 hours ago, Unsympathetic said: If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread. A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP well there really is not a whole lot going on at the moment. unless you want to do a mock draft ? so calm down, as there really was not another thread to put that at. So if you would like to come up with a different thread for that sort of thing, Please by all means do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 I'm just waiting for free agency to start. I don't imagine the Browns being super aggressive but I think they will look for o-line and linebacker. Would like them to get a deal done with Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 On 3/4/2024 at 9:40 PM, Unsympathetic said: If you want to shitpost about something, make another thread. A RUMOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE SALARY CAP Today is March 8th and Free Agency starts Wednesday March 13th; but FA contracts/negotiations and discussions with teams can begin on Monday, March 11th. I was hoping we'd have more than 1 veteran with a gigantic contract agree to defer some of their money received to another calendar year like Denzel Ward did. None of them will go broke doing so. Right now there isn't any spending money to compete in free agency with unless some of the players step up here at the last minute. Berry did an incredible job last off season. However, good draft drafting at rookie salary cap restrictions for 5 year contracts can sure get you a healthier salary cap. For example, the difference between drafting Watson and being the 2nd team to pay him for the projections off of his back to back Pro Bowls and playoff appearances. It's time for Berry to hit more home runs like JOK in the draft. Long story short, it needs to be a balanced approach between good drafting and good use of free agency. 1 year contracts don't build continuity because they are very expensive band aids that only help for a short period. It was tough typing that after the fun FA brought us last year until I remind myself how many of those guys have contracts that already expired here. This draft for the Browns doesn't begin until the back 3rd of round 2. They gotta nail pick #54. This is just overcaffeinated nerves thinking out loud; and that kind of noise pollution might get me arrested for disturbing the piece... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Browns restructured Jed Wills' contract, gain over $10 mill in cap space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Browns restructured Jed Wills' contract, gain over $10 mill in cap space. Thanks Dutch! Looks like the good news leaked about 2 hours after my post this morning. We need more because the competition heats up Monday. Here's what I just Googled up: The team made one move Friday, restructuring offensive tackle Jedrick Wills' contract, according to NFL Media. The team converted $10.44 million of Wills' $14.175 million fifth-year option to a restructure bonus, according Cleveland.com, which saves that much on the cap.10 hours ago 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 Not intended to high jack team cap space topic. But stumbled across a interesting list of 2023 NFL Coaches contracts/ranking $$.. Where does 2 time coach of the year land on list? Top 10 highest-paid NFL coaches 2023 COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY 1. Bill Belichick New England Patriots $20 million Not coaching in 2024 2. Sean Payton Denver Broncos $18 million 3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $15 million Not coaching in 2024 4. Sean McVay Los Angeles Rams $15 million 5. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $12.5 million 6. Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $12 million 7. John Hargbaugh Baltimore Ravens $12 million 8. Kyle Shanahan San Francisco 49ers $10 million 9. Josh McDaniels Las Vegas Raiders $10 million Not coaching in 2024 10. Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans $9.5 million Not coaching in 2024 Who are the lowest paid NFL coaches 2023? COACH TEAM SALARY Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $3.5 million last on HC list The Cleveland Browns brought in HC Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry to work together as a collaborative unit in 2020. It is important to note that Stefanski was hired first then joined the search that ended up with Berry as the general manager. Despite that, Berry does not report to Stefanski. Despite their titles, Stefanski does not report to Berry. Both head coach and GM report directly to the ownership group led by Jimmy Haslam. Kevin Stefanski's 4 season record is 37-30 .552% with a 1-2 playoff record. 5 year contract expires January of 2025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 On 3/13/2024 at 8:05 PM, gumby73 said: Not intended to high jack team cap space topic. But stumbled across a interesting list of 2023 NFL Coaches contracts/ranking $$.. Where does 2 time coach of the year land on list? Top 10 highest-paid NFL coaches 2023 COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY 1. Bill Belichick New England Patriots $20 million Not coaching in 2024 2. Sean Payton Denver Broncos $18 million 3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $15 million Not coaching in 2024 4. Sean McVay Los Angeles Rams $15 million 5. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $12.5 million 6. Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs $12 million 7. John Hargbaugh Baltimore Ravens $12 million 8. Kyle Shanahan San Francisco 49ers $10 million 9. Josh McDaniels Las Vegas Raiders $10 million Not coaching in 2024 10. Mike Vrabel Tennessee Titans $9.5 million Not coaching in 2024 Who are the lowest paid NFL coaches 2023? COACH TEAM SALARY Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $3.5 million last on HC list The Cleveland Browns brought in HC Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry to work together as a collaborative unit in 2020. It is important to note that Stefanski was hired first then joined the search that ended up with Berry as the general manager. Despite that, Berry does not report to Stefanski. Despite their titles, Stefanski does not report to Berry. Both head coach and GM report directly to the ownership group led by Jimmy Haslam. Kevin Stefanski's 4 season record is 37-30 .552% with a 1-2 playoff record. 5 year contract expires January of 2025 The interesting thing here is 2 of the 3 lowest paid Head Coaches are employed by the teams in Ohio - that have drastically improved their frequency of making the playoffs fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, Flugel said: The interesting thing here is 2 of the 3 lowest paid Head Coaches are employed by the teams in Ohio - that have drastically improved their frequency of making the playoffs fwiw. That will probably change. I think Taylor is on his first contract as well. Both will probably get in the 6-8 mil range. If I was Haslam I would extend him 3 years now. That gives Stefanski 4 years of security. After that, wait and see, looking to keep giving 3 years deals going in to the 4th season if warranted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 15 minutes ago, ballpeen said: That will probably change. I think Taylor is on his first contract as well. Both will probably get in the 6-8 mil range. If I was Haslam I would extend him 3 years now. That gives Stefanski 4 years of security. After that, wait and see, looking to keep giving 3 years deals going in to the 4th season if warranted. I think so too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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