Lumbergh Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 No he's not gonna start this year. He's gonzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...nge-tight-ends/ Picked up Estanzia (sp?)TE From the Jags. Guess we won't be using TE's in our O this season. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaygroundLegend Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Are you serious? This is rediculous. Kid is huge, has speed, and has hands. I question this decision, I thought he was going to start at some point. I guess Mangini prefers the Jason Witten type to the Kellen Winslow Type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowe Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Yet another Phil Savage massive BUST. xxxx you, Go scout for Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Man I thought that kid would be a player, he put up monstrous numbers at Mizzou. Oh well, the purge continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Maybe they found out he cannot read a playbook. or he stole Manginis's bottle of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cane666 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 we really don't need any pass catching t.e. do we no one can stop us from scoreing now hope a couple more jets get cut we need more help GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ManginIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen?? No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags And he will stay on the right side to help St. Claire (aka Fat Albert) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 No. We brought in Greg Estandia. A TE from the Jags Oh well...can't say i don't have some Gator homer in me....I trust the evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Who said that he couldn't catch? look at this One Handed Estandia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koa Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can Estandia block well? Or at least catch better than Royal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Just cut CB Marquis Floyd saw on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I hope they bring back Aaron Walker who IMO should have made it over Rucker, but the chances are good we are looking at another position over a TE...maybe another Olinemen?? Peens, first I'd like to say that I'm shocked you preferred a Gator over Rucker. Secondly, I told you every year there is a white TE that looks good in camp and gets released, regardless of admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I remember you saying that, and remember you saying you liked the Gator. Now for my head bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Can Estandia block well? Or at least catch better than Royal? I think he has a little more foot speed than Royal. Where is Heiden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I think he has a little more foot speed than Royal. Where is Heiden? He's coming off major huge surgery and he's getting up there, that's why I warned people all off season to not just count him in like he's a given. We need him bad because Royal is fast approaching the "I think this guy might suck pretty bad" stage. But what does that say about how bad Rucker must blow? If it was a complete purge just wanting to get rid of Phillip's waste why keep him over Walker in the first place? Don't get that one, unless they just didn't like Walker much, which I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadWombat Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 What.... the.... HELL???? I really doubt Rucker was that bad. I really doubt this Estandia guy is going to be any better. I really doubt he's going to be doing anything at all. What the hell is Mangina smoking? Anyone got some stats on this Estandia guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieBornNRaised Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8105/ heres a link two find his stats for the last two seasons with the jags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownieBornNRaised Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 hes not terrible, but not great either. Think they cut him just cause they had so many prospects at the TE position. Past two seasons was a back up and got little play time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Are you serious? This is rediculous. Kid is huge, has speed, and has hands. I question this decision, I thought he was going to start at some point. I guess Mangini prefers the Jason Witten type to the Kellen Winslow Type They obviously want blocking TEs to make an attemp to bolster a non-existant running game that will still be non-existent instead of giving the QB another potential target that could have made a difference and i question several mangini decisions thusfar...i think mangini will rebuild the browns nicely but doesnt possess the balls or football iq to take us to the forbidden....ahhh ummmm promised land... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 As someone else said the Browns need football players with the right attitude. Doesn't matter how you look until the hitting starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greythan Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well, again this is proof that those saying that Rucker = Winslow replacement were out to lunch utterly. Yes, I think trading Winslow for value based on what appears to be Mangini's confidence in the ability for us to compete this year (ie., not) was smart. That said, having Winslow would have made a difference for us regardless of who's playing QB this year. Ouch Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 6 feet 8 inches tall 265lbs That is your answer. He's a 2nd right tackle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestinPeace Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 My guess his attitude was bad and he didn't like Mangini's ways. Rebellion will not be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 This one (cutting Rucker) really seems to make no sense to me, for the very reasons you listed above. Can't you just muddle through this, well, crappy season and try to develop this guy? He has to have sucked really, really hard in practice for this move to make any sense. Estandia probably isn't going to make anyone forget KWII... Agreed. He made it to 53, but then in two dismal weeks of football on Sundays (where everyone on the team probably should have been tossed), he gets axed on a Tuesday evening? And he didn't even get an opportunity to suck out loud or perform in those games. Weird, weird call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I don't see why some people have an issue with this cut. Everyone in the league says we lack talent. We cut a guy who couldn't start for us in 2 years of developing. If we lack talent and this guy can't even start for us, then why should we be surprised Mangini brought someone else in? I say keep the housecleaning coming until we have more than 3 players that could start for any team in the league (Rogers and Edwards and Thomas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopaji Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just yesterday people were asking why Rucker wasn't starting. I think Mangini knows why. Because he's aweful. This is just the beginning of about 40 roster changes over the next 9 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Banks Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just yesterday people were asking why Rucker wasn't starting. I think Mangini knows why. Because he's aweful. This is just the beginning of about 40 roster changes over the next 9 months. Geez. What commends this kid except for a decent college career? Doesn't everyone drafted have college success? Crennel didn't play him and Mangini cut him. Maybe because he can't play?? No. it's because they want to win in spite of Opie. Get real. I really saw little out of him in the preseason. That's two guys that Opie traded up for last year that are now gone. Bell was non-existent in the preseason, so no question there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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