BaconHound

18 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

So if it wasn't overturned I fail to see where there was any "dictating" going on? Besides in the fevered minds of those who can't find anything good to say about their choice of president.

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WSS

It’s the mentality of a president who is willing to bully and remove any person who does not agree with his opinion. Trying to force a false narrative on an entire country is dangerous.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/former-doj-officials-detail-trump-effort-to-get-them-to-discredit-2020-vote-11633623997

 

Oh yea, lets cut our defense spending while China and Russia are increasing theirs.  Very smart.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/
 

it’s not even close but again you know that 

Terrible look for Biden.  IMO he lied to Stephanopolous.

 

Just wanted to point out that I don't think that violence is the trademark of of the Working Poor. And there's absolutely no shortage of jobs. Just people who refuse to work and prefer Street violence or whatever to pass the time.

WSS

That’s my point. There was a time where being working poor was almost a badge of honor.  That time has passed us and now violence would run rampant.

Just now, Westside Steve said:

Id have to see a better break down of the numbers but since I've been vaccinated does that mean I can't carry or pass virus? A handful of people in my close circle of friends have recently tested positive. Not really all that sick but they've all been vaccinated.

 

WSS

You absolutely can carry and transmit but like the theory of herd immunity, when these vaccines were developed there was no delta variant and the idea was people would get vaccinated.  If you a thousand people who are vaccinated and 10 who aren’t the odds of virus transmission by the vaccinated population is low.  If you have a 1000 unvaccinated and 10 vaccinated the opposite is true.  The efficacy of the vaccines do depend on the willingness to be vaccinated.

1 minute ago, Westside Steve said:

I don't think there's an agency or program or whatever that couldn't be streamlined. Not a single one.

WSS

As a person who has worked in various sections of government I tend to agree but my experience has lead me to the conclusion that it costs less to let the abuse happen than it does to try and stop it. Sad but true.  Without getting to philosophical, the problem is simple. People are the worst and we continue to become worse.  With each passing moment we reduce personal responsibility in the name of protecting individual rights , on both sides.

Just now, Gorka said:

Didn't some politician suggest building a wall? 

A barrier is only a small part of border protection.  Drug runners have been building tunnels for years.  You’d still need to police the border and put certain policies in place.  I’m not comfortable with shooting people who attempt to scale a border wall.

On 9/21/2021 at 7:44 AM, Westside Steve said:

So you guys know where I stand. Quit being a pussy go get the vaccination throw the mask in the trash. That being said Joe Biden making the vaccination mandatory for healthcare workers does exactly what? First of all vaccination doesn't make you substantially less likely to spread the disease. (I do believe you'll be less sick if you contract covid if you've been vaccinated) Number two every healthcare worker where's the mask the entire time you are in the facility right? So since a lot of healthcare professionals are leery of the vaccination many of them will opt out of going to work. What does this mean? Less people to staff the medical facilities.

So can any of you DLTHW Biden supporters force yourself to admit this is counterproductive, even stupid?

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WSS

That is patently false by all credible scientific authorities unless your “substantial threshold” is 80 percent.

I’m thinking that’s what should happen. If a program is perfect you modify it until it becomes a better fit.  It doesn’t have to be all or nothing all the time.  Unfortunately that’s where our current political climate has us.  Compromise is a dirty word.

1 minute ago, Westside Steve said:

What's the old Maxim a project will expand to fit the budget. I say "slash" budgets and by slashing I mean a few percent or a couple percent then just wait for the wailing and gnashing of teeth to subside.

WSS

I agree but where.  I’d like to see Defense spending cut significantly but I’m pretty sure I’m in the minority here.  Others may want social services cut, I wouldn’t support that. It’s the system we are currently in. Everyone wants things cut but no one wants what they deem necessary cut.  

2 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Absolutely true. That doesn't make it good or proper or right or beneficial but yes.

WSS

Unfortunately at this point you can’t resolve it.  I think the only way you get back to a more measured approach is a financial reset but no administration is going to allow a depression.  You could’ve seen it with the mortgage crisis or with the COVID shutdown. To be honest I’m not sure if our country could take it.  We aren’t used to being “working poor” anymore.  As things got worse, violence would ramp up.

Agreed and I wish I could even offer a solution. The closest I can come up with is shut the border down but I’m not sure we have enough personnel to pull that off.  Also as people congregate the conditions will get worse and more dangerous for those policing the area.  It is a lose/lose from my perspective.

Just now, Westside Steve said:

More taxes cures everything.

WSS

That is the only solution.  You will never stop pork barrel budgetary spending as too many local economies require it to sustain themselves.  When it comes to government provided services the only way to fund them is taxes.  If you can’t cut spending you raise em.

I’m all for spending more money on the VA system.  Just raise everyone’s taxes.

There is all sorts of nonsense from both sides in these budgets. The Federal Government has been redistributing wealth forever.  This isn’t new, nor is it one sided.

When a national Health Emergency has been declared I think it’s appropriate to require what the Governmental Oversight suggests.

I’d say similar to declaring martial law and imposing a curfew.  I have zero issue with those violating that receiving a citation or when possible temporary incarceration.

Unfortunately based on Republican drafted tax code, the realized tax rate on the wealthy vs the working man is not equitable.

2 hours ago, bigbambo said:

I think Republicans controlled all 3 in 2016, no?

When you inherit a run down home it cost money to get it back to snuff....That is what Trump inherited from Obama/Biden.  Plus, Trump would have no help at all if he didn't go along with passing some of the crap, the crap that pays both republicans and Dims side money.  He also saved money by not supporting things like the WHO and the UN and received money from tariff restructures and USMCA.

What did Obama inherit from W and where was it when he left office? Better or worse?  It’s all out there and you may be surprised to know what W counted in the national Debt and what he didn’t.

Now that my money is out of the market, I agree. Default on debts and let the market drop as we are seeing with the nervousness of the Chinese company who may default on their debt.

On 9/14/2021 at 10:52 AM, Westside Steve said:

Maybe because the left has spent so many years using death statistics against their opponents? (Until they are in the driver's seat and killing innocent people is ok). PS great job rolling out the 'What about Bush!?' Hey what about Johnson? Hey what about Roosevelt or Truman? Hey what about Washington?

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WSS

I guess that’s the whole point. You either condemn killing innocents or you judge it in context to other campaigns.  Randomly condemning the guy you don’t like is nonsense.

Was there election fraud, yes.  Did it move the needle, no.  Since elections began there has been fraud. Some as small as people not voting where they are legally residing to those that cast a vote as someone else.  Locally it could be an issue but for Senator or higher, moot.

Do we want to start comparing innocent kill resumes? Cause I’d like to see W’s.  Or are we anti-drone and pro-soldiers in harms way?  Again not sure what the purpose of these threads are.

6 hours ago, bjh2130 said:

Ward played great

Thank you. Didn’t have a chance to see the game, just the box score.  It seems like Baker played better than the numbers and I didn’t know who Hill was being converted by.

How was Ward?