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If anyone needs a stream to watch The Draft, I'll be running it off my discord.
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14 hours ago, MLD Woody said:
In Detroit for the draft. Fun times. No Cleveland draft though...
How's that new Lions jersey fitting?
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3 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:
but from what I saw he looks to be the best A&M Edge since Myles.
I'd put more stock into these words if you hadn't been so off the mark on your previous pimping's of A&M players that fell wildly short of your hype.
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TBB discord for tonight, anyone and everyone welcomed to talk shop.
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Minnesota. Come on now 😂
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Sadly haven't been able to do the work I would usually do in years past, and what little I have done has gone elsewhere. Busy busy. So some condensed thoughts.
- LB class fails to impress me top to bottom. Payton Wilson reminds me a bit of Zaven Collins mixed with Blake Martinez. Not sure how I feel about that other than lukewarm at best.
- QB class isn't far behind the list in my lack of excitement. Which is funny given that every 20 years you get a monster group - 84, 04....24? I wasn't alive for the first class and I was a teenager for the 2004 group. But I don't see this two decade trend holding up. Caleb Williams is a great improviser, but his work when the SC line wasn't at it's best looked....selfish and panicked, to say the least. All the physical tools in the world, but does he have the brain to play and handle the most intense and difficult position in all of sports? Not so sure.
I still have yet to see a logical argument for JJ McCarthy being as hyped as he is.
- Draft is trench heavy and I like that. Means a small trade down from #54 likely won't harm this team. I'd gladly take two solid players over one pretty good player. And both lines need a bit of future proofing before long.
- DB I haven't had time with, but I've loved the New England method of late rounder plus athletes that get coached up.
- Not really seeing a need for receiver unless the BPA is just THAT good.
Looking forward to another good draft with some shocks memories. I might be watching from my phone the first couple days. But I'll do my best to log in and be active day 3.
I'll post TBB discord link later because that's a great online meet up to do live draft discussion.
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44 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:
It's funny you ask this, because after you shot down my Junior Colson love like some random girl at a Kent bar 20 years ago, I was going to ask you about this guy as a possible option.
I have a little time before dinner, so I'll be in the machine shop doing some film work on him. There's several cutups of him on YT, the first one against UConn. I'll start there.
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Has anyone actually watched Payton Wilson, out of curiosity? Highlight videos don't count...
I've yet to, so I'm asking an honest question.
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On 4/9/2024 at 12:56 PM, Orion said:
Anthony Walker is not the only one that tells his agent stuff like this. Build the dome.
Speaking to the Miami media, Walker shared the simple factor that he told his agent to focus on in free agency: Warmth!
“I stressed to my agent it was very, very important to get me out the cold. I was sick of it,” Walker said. “I hadn’t been home in a while. I was in the Midwest since I was 17 years old. It was about time I got some warm weather and when he said Miami and I was like let’s get it done.”
Mediocre players should be more concerned about being better and more consistent than they should about a couple months of colder weather.
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3 full games in of All-22 re: Colson. I'm hot and cold, which best describes his game.
Solid size, good enough athlete, surprisingly better in coverage than I expected. Really understood where to leverage himself in his assignments and zones vis a vis the coverage call and how he read things. Good feel for helping to minimize those 'grey' areas.
Downside? His inconsistency in the running game. When you talk about wanting a compliment to JOK, you mean that guy in the middle who takes on leads, or sheds and gets hands on ball carriers where young JOK can clean things up (fill/force) That's where he lacks. Despite my praise of his coverage, I saw UM take him off the field in nickel and dime situations pretty frequently in favor of #23... whomever that is, pretty often. Which was sort of a shocker if that's your defensive heartbeat along the front 7.
I digress, I don't see the compliment I believe you're looking for. His processing hot and cold was against QB centric running games and also not against them. Sideline to sideline he moves well, decent enough tackling form but can lose that when pressing a clear gap, breaking down and attacking a QB or RB. You don't see much of that 'enforcer', and he has a ton of assist tackles on his resume'.
Overall, I just go full 'meh' with this LB class so far. Rankings have Colson anywhere between the 4th and 8th best at his position, which makes him a *late* day 2 pick. More comfortably for my tastes an early day 3 pick.
RE: JJ McCarthy. Holy fuck, I really never sat down to watch the passing structure of the UM air game, but it was pretty simple and straight forward. A handful of concepts they used ranging from Y-pop RPO's, classic mesh, then misdirection setups to attack the perimeter. But nothing complex. Have to credit the Oline and the running game for being the engine behind that car. The Bama game was rather standout to me, because the overwhelming majority of what I saw was a QB being setup for 1a and 1b being his legs. Simple motions against Saban's well understood coverage designs, the biggest being against the single high, were what they found the most success with. Not a volume shooter, and when a couple of the downfield developing shots that you would consider the NFL throws were there, they weren't taken. Questionable ball placement and timing at the numbers and odd breaking routes. When he throws errant, he tends to miss high... which is about the worst you can do when throwing. His footwork in comparison to his follow through needs to be cleaned up SO much, which is the cause of a lot of his inaccuracies.
You hear about the work ethic, and that's great. Hard work and leadership are appreciated. But there have been hundreds of QB in the last decade that have come and gone, most for a cup of coffee, that are hardworking and have "leadership". If those are the first two traits and the one's you talk about most when discussing a signal caller, then you're going backwards in your eval and leaning on the cliche's for your foundation.
JJ is physically capable and has decent size for the QB spot. But at his current floor, he needs a ton of development. A floor that, in no way, justifies a 1st round pick at this moment. If the market values him as such, then like a stock, I'm going to put money on shorting it because this particular stock *should* drop, if it isn't being artificially inflated.
edit: There is a kid from Bama, Justin Eboigbe, IDL... that has caught a bit of my eye. Plays primarily a 4/4i tech in Bama's odd fronts and some 5tech. Looks really out of place doing it for what they ask of him. Does some two gapping and such at times. Gives the feel of a kid who could thrive in Schwartz' systems.
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19 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:
Ok, I've never done this...
How do you do the thing you do regarding discord?
The link to the discord server itself.
- Install the app
- setup your account
- click the link
If you don't have the app installed, it will try to run it from a webpage off of that link. Which I've never done before, but you're welcomed to try.
I'm on now and we'll be on throughout today as I relax and do some emails, paperwork and listen to music.
I'm cruising the entirety of the all-22 from Michigan v Bama watching JJ McCarthy on offense and Junior Coulson on defense.
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1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:
How do you do the thing you do regarding discord?
A ton more straight forward than what I thought when I first started.
- Download and install discord. Preferably on a computer, laptop, tablet. Phone will work.
-Setup your name and password on it like you would a forum.
- I'll list a link here that takes you to TBB server. You can copy and paste it in the discord program, or the link itself *should* open it and take you right where you need to go.
- At that point, all you do is click on the discord voice channel and click "view stream"
- It'll take you to my desktop screen, you'll see and watch exactly what I'm watching and I'll handle it from there.
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On 4/8/2024 at 3:37 PM, Dutch Oven said:
Thoughts on LB Payton Wilson, NC State with the 2nd round pick? Is that a legit spot for him?
He has some red flags, specifically his injury history, but man he's got some tools galore.
Tomorrow night? I'll be back at home and settled in with the rest of the week off.
Looking at another group TBB film session.
Would be a great way for us to establish some better understanding of Payton's game.
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Cross off Sweat entirely, or at best drop him a couple rounds to high day 3.
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Weekend vacation in Nashville with the GF.
Ended up at the Ryman to see this group. Good show, classic venue.
Highly recommend for anyone who has an ear for soul, funk, gospel, blues, etc etc.
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When I think of the anger behind the Hip drop, I think of hip-hop and the words of Mos Def - "Why did one straw break the camels back, here's the secret, the million other straws beneath it"
(that's mathematics, by the way. For anyone who appreciates great lyrical talent)
It isn't *just* this in a vacuum. It's all the stuff that has punished defenses for bad offensive play the last 15 years. That is what has some of us miffed.
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2 of the 4 years with playoff appearances, and a 3rd year that would have been a wildcard shot if not for having one of the most commical defensive fronts in the entire NFL.
I'm fine with the extension.
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19 hours ago, Orion said:
We don't have a 4th rounder. Picks 54 & 85 are quite important to get the picks right.
You're right, I had forgotten about that. Appreciate it.
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Short answer? No
Long answer. Hicks and JoK are a good nickel duo of backers. You still need to identify a consistent third for those sub packages young JoK becomes a pressure or green dog. Is that person currently on roster? Probably not.
I'd expect a developmental piece, 3rd maybe 4th round, to be brought in.
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On 3/31/2024 at 11:40 AM, Flugel said:
Thanks for setting that up and watching that with me T! I wish I could say Jaylan Ford gave us something exciting to watch. I overrated the crap out of him from things I read in 2 Draft Magazines .
All good, buddy. I like generating my own knowledge and doing those watches, learned quite a bit. Not only about Jaylan but the Texas defense as a whole.
On 3/31/2024 at 11:40 AM, Flugel said:Having said that, Lindy's Magazine has him as a 4th-5th round projection which seems more accurate than Athlon's 3rd round projection.
4th-5th feels right. But it's a weak LB class, he might be bumped up just based on that alone.
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On 3/26/2024 at 9:11 AM, Flugel said:
Thanks! That might work Friday. I'll let you know later in the week.
I'll be on tonight, for Flugs and whomever else might want to join. Around 8:15pm EST.
Again, doesn't require anything special on the end of anyone else. I host, share my screen, we all watch along and give our critique and thoughts. Jaylan Ford is on deck tonight and we'll all be going in with a fresh template. Or, at least, I will. I've never really watched him before.
Link to the discord channel.
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33 minutes ago, syd said:
As expected - trench heavy.
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1 minute ago, Dutch Oven said:
Hold your proverbial horses there... I never said it is safer scrambling, and I do get what Orion is saying. My point is I can name quite a few non-running quarterbacks whose careers were riddled with injuries they received from not scrambling or running on designed plays.
And here's the thing: Offenses that feature Mobile quarterbacks are EVERYWHERE in high school and college football. There aren't many Joe Flacco's or Drew Bledsoe's anymore.
You're not wrong, but the best athlete being your QB in high school has been a thing since I was a kid. It's only the last 20 years (well, I was still a kid then too) that its sort of 'trickled up'... in a manner of speak. Putting greater emphasis on athletic ability at the QB position.
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1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:
How about the most famous QB injury that happened in the pocket behind one of the best OLines in NFL history?
I'll take Joe Theismann's pulverized leg for $500, Alex...
And while you're certainly right, there's a reason that injury is so well known. Next to Alex Smith, that sort of thing just doesn't happen.
I think the whole "safer scrambling vs in the pocket" is a bit overblown. The biggest issue between elite passers and pocket presence vs not is the ability to more efficiently move the ball in the air and avoid shots they had no business taking in the first place.
Indy with their young QB in AR15 is a prime example. That kid lead himself into contact he had no business being involved in, and wouldn't have been had he been ready to be starting NFL QB. But he wasn't, the Colts overdrafted him then rushed his play in risk of long term development and long term health.
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Needs A LOT of work
Love me some Mikey Hall, love Buckeyes staying home. I question the price paid at #54 for a rookie 3 tech with some previous health issues.