Dutch Oven

ESPNs Chris Mortensen passed away today, at age 72. 

3 hours ago, syd said:

NFL offseason: Updated rumors on Browns 'splash' move, Tee Higgins, OBJ, Kenny Pic

I have zero interest in OBJ coming back, with the exception of how mad it would make Baker Bros on here. 

That would be entertaining. 😁

21 minutes ago, nickers said:

And fuck you too Dutch Gurl... Go hug a nut sack......

It's almost like mooching off your family your whole life and knowing you are going to die alone is making you cranky. 

Such a shame. 

Big basketball day today for the Buckeyes, as the women's #2 ranked team plays against Caitlin Clark and the #6 Iowa Hawkeyes at 1pm... then the suddenly rejuvenated men's team battles the going to be fired as soon as the season ends Juwan Howard-lead TCUN Wolverines at 4pm. 

But the firings at Ann Arbor won't be ending there... this year is going to be VERY interesting for the scUM athletic department, trust me on this. 

36 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Agreed.  I also think a great Safety can be a game changer.  That said, we did drafted a DT (Ika) in round 3 and a DE (McGuire) in round 4 last year as well as a DE (Wright) in round 3 in 2022.  A decent surprise last year was a 2020 DT (Elliott) we drafted in round 3 played some pretty good football in the starting rotation.  I think Tomlinson returns but I haven't fact checked that one yet.  

Offensively, there's a good chance we lose Pro Bowl Right Guard (Teller) to FA. Maybe Luke Wypler is up to the challenge of filling that spot or we draft someone or sign a FA. Meanwhile it appears Wills remains our less than enthusiastic LT.  If Conklin could freakin stay healthy - we could move Dawand Jones to LT (although he also ended 2023 on IR as did Wills). 

WRs are irresistible eye candy because it's a passing era and the drop-off from Cooper is big enough for temptation to add another.  He's gonna = he hasn't yet.  That said, this is a damn good draft for TEs. Sizing them up at the combines by appearance only - it sure looks like there's some dual purpose TEs (like Steve Heiden was here.  I'll let my draft magazines tell me how many I got wrong as blockers later this month.

As much as I hate typing this - I think there's a really good chance the Browns will draft a RB to share the workload with Chubb.  The big volume of FA RBs won't be cheaper than a rookie we can keep longer at cap friendlier prices. Investments for a healthier cap is a NEED.  Staying in that thought, Wisconsin's Braelon Allen or Washington's Dillon Johnson are just 2 of an exciting bunch of RBs that could fall to some of our draft slots. 

The Draft guides usually come out around St. Patrick's Day, so I'll grab one and get a mock draft (or three) out... 

I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too.

The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents.

I'd also love for an inside linebacker. 

11 hours ago, nickers said:

This is why I engage in things like Hiking, Camping and Survival as well as traveling and creating music and digital art...... I always start the day with a big tumbler of water and a few rounds of Klondike Solitaire to get my brain and my organs running.. I refuse to let today's current events spoil my passion and zest for life..

Says the most miserable prick on this board. 

11 hours ago, mjp28 said:

▪︎-->  Hey syd,  are we  (you)  going to do the Cleveland BROWNS  uniform numbers countdown again this year ?

(And we need to drag that Dutch Oven in on this too  .... we need his expertise on this subject also.)       

Nope nope nope.

It's all yours. I was never so happy than when that thing finally ended 🤣

8 minutes ago, AP1 said:

I am pretty confident about one thing. In just four years, the NFL has jumped from $30M/year QBs to $60M/yr QBs. There's only one Lombardi Trophy to win each season. Most of these guys are going to retire without ever touching that trophy that, in hindsight, would  give millions in cap space to help bring in necessary pieces to win a SB and be immortalized as a SB Champion.

Watson's deal pays him $46 mill a year.

If there are now $60 mill a year QBs, according to you, what exactly are you continually complaining about? 

And if he restructures his contract AGAIN, are you coming back here to praise it?

12 hours ago, AP1 said:

And Deshaun Watson appears apathetic about Cleveland and the Browns and Nick Chubb seems the opposite. Maybe I'm wrong a out Watson, I'd love to be wrong about him.

You keep saying this.

I think it is apparent that you really don't want to be wrong about this. 

And what exactly does Nick Chubb do that shows you he loves Cleveland? I love me some Nick Chubb as much as anyone, but he's a robot on the field. If TJ Watt is the epitome of a rah-rah psyche your teammates and the crowd up, Chubb is the total opposite. On the field, he has zero personality, and I'm fine with that. He plays incredibly well, is a professional and never is a problem off the field. Fantastic.

But I think he'd be like that whereever he played. And that's fine, but this "Chubb loves Cleveland" narrative you keep pushing seems contrived because you love Nick Chubb. 

33 minutes ago, nickers said:

Fuck the Tardians...

Dude, just stick your miserable head in your oven and finally do everyone a solid and turn the fucker on to broil. 

52 minutes ago, AP1 said:

I just hate the pickle created by all of this. I love Nick Chubb being a Cleveland Brown. I think after Joe Thomas he is the second most Cleveland Brown of the Browns 2.0.

When I look at Watson, the look in his eyes does not scream teammate. It's all I see when I look in Nick Chubb's eyes. 

At the same time, I've become cynical and pragmatic as to how RBs are dealt with in the NFL. They are viewed and treated as expendable. And, unfortunately, they are the easiest position to replace.

1. Watson so far has not proven worth the franchise QB contract and especially not the draft picks given to Houston to get him. Here's the problem, let's say he had been. Let's say Watson came in here last fall, after the suspension, and in the season and a third put up 2018-2020 Deshaun Watson numbers. We'd still be in the same boat. The same boat any team with a franchise QB making franchise QB second/third contract money. Franchise QBs eat up a ton of salary cap. It would be easier to swallow if our guy was playing at the level we traded for, of course. I get it. 

2. I have no idea what the second part means... I'm not fluent in reading eyes regarding their good or bad teammate tendencies.

3. True. You won't find many Browns fans who love them some Nicholas Chubb more than me. I have two Browns jerseys, a brown one and a 1946 white throwback one. Both are #24s. And as much as some on here bitch about the analytics driven front office, they did quickly give Chubb a second contract. I get the impression they are going to work something out to keep Chubb around for a few more seasons, health permitted. 

7 hours ago, AP1 said:

I don't disagree with anything here.

But let me play devil's advocate...

What if Chubb's angle, or anyone in a similar contractual circumstance, takes a look at Watson and essentially says, "He's got way more wiggle room in his contract. He needs to be the first to create some space." ?

I'm not sure how you are playing "devil's advocate" when the thing you are suggesting being done already happened last offseason, and most likely will be done again. 

Northwestern is in the process of tearing down Ryan Field and rebuilding a new stadium on the site, so they will not have a legit home stadium, as they may bounce between various Chicago area sites..

Rumor has it that Ohio State's November 16th game vs the Wildcats will be at Wrigley Field. I have family in the Chicago suburbs, I think I might have to try and go. I can't imagine how expensive the tickets will be. Wrigley only seats about 37,000+ for football. 

11 hours ago, syd said:

it's philly's home game they are taking away, so either way I guess it beat's playing in philly. Also if we do play on that friday night doe's that mean we do not have to play on a TNF game ?

That's kind of how I look at it... I wouldn't want the Browns to lose a home game, but since it was supposed to be in Philly, I'm fine with it. 

9 hours ago, Flugel said:

Are the NFL's New Jersey Generals still playing there?  They had an owner that threatened to put the NFL out of business about 35-40 years ago.  Today, that guy is selling gold high top sneakers as a fund raiser to help pay for his fraud charges while the NFL continues to get wealthier.  Maybe Cal can share a selfie or 2 in his new sneakers to show us how adorable they look.

Air Treasons? 

Rumor is that the Browns are going on the road to start the season vs the Eagles....

Waaaay on the road... in Brazil. 

9 hours ago, Flugel said:

She's still pretty good looking in her 70s.  Let's hope she stays away from Meg Ryan's and Goldie Hawn's plastic surgeon(s).  They came out the other side of surgery looking like the poor kid in the movie Mask.

Anyway, I just re-watched a movie Beverly D'Angelo was in called American History X.  Edward Norton is an incredible actor.  If you don't believe me - watch the movie.  Stacy Keach must be pretty good too because he played the part of a pretty creepy bastard that really leaves you despising him. That's the type of guy very skilled at brainwashing very angry people until he's their cult leader. 

I saw that movie at the theatre, I think near Chapel Hill Mall (Akron/Cuyahoga Falls) with a mixed crowd.

It was eerily awkward walking out after the movie. 

You know this is an old thread when Gipper has the second highest post count. 

Just now, syd said:

maybe if they make a little noise in the tourny, they could sneak in to the big dance

Their overall record is 15-11, but they started 12-2. 

But this is a good start. We'll have to see if they can use this to turn their season around. 

Earlier this week, Ohio State's men's basketball head coach Chris Holtmann was fired. 

Just now:

Ohio State 73, #2 Purdue 69.

59 minutes ago, Kvoethe said:

Jfc...stalk much???  Now even changing what i say?  Get a life creeper.  Just because you love ole rub n tug..doesnt mean I have to.  How you arent banned is beyond me.  You bring nothing to this forum.

Jesus, you hicks down in Columbiana County sure are sensitive. Your labia are quite chafed. 

Speaking of stalking, does your "wife" express her concern about how your FB page makes you look like Mark David Chapman and Baker Mayfield is your John Lennon? 🤣

I'm about to drop a truly random Dutch dropping on yo' asses...

The architect who designed Ohio Stadium, "The Horseshoe", was Howard Dwight Smith.

His granddaughter is actress Beverly D'Angelo. 

5 minutes ago, Flugel said:

It absolutely killed the Browns working around that salary all the way to an 11 win season and the #1 Defense.  Can we sign Watson again?  This is addicting!

Oh trust me, I didn't want them to do it originally and I'd get out of it in a second if I could, but there's something almost deliciously hilarious watching the same idiots whine and cry about it... almost makes me wish he had a lifetime contract 🤣

1 minute ago, Kvoethe said:

Im more obsessed and can talk or think of nothing else with the next round of discipline against our 230 million dollar project.  Maybe we can get a refund.

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