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7 minutes ago, Vagitron said:

The mike Tomlin hate is so fucking stupid. Yinzers do it too. He's a good coach and he's always been a good coach. The team is in the midst of a transition. If anything Keith butler will be fired, it's not going to be Tomlin.

And the rest of the AFC will celebrate. How many playoff games has he won in a decade? He's a fraud. All he's good for are snappy quips but has zero substance. All he has is hollow words.

"We are gonna bring hell in December." (didn't win another game).

"We are gonna defend every blade of grass." (got his ass kicked next game)

2 hours ago, jcam222 said:

So far the Rams offense has been very flat. That combined with the fact Goff I pretty bad I’m away games might help us. Guys are going to have to step up. 

Even if LA hasn't been great, they are still a bigger challenge with the Jets and their backup QB. Got to play better than that. 

On 9/20/2019 at 11:44 AM, SdBacker80 said:

Heard it was Likely a torn Pectoral.  

That's season ending if it is a torn pec. No way you can play with that. 

On 9/11/2019 at 6:43 AM, flyingfooldoug said:

Sooooo, is AB a rapist as he’s accused?  Might be playing prison league ball before to long.  Sounds about right

It's a civil case, those don't involve law enforcement whatsoever. 

Pats cut AB. That fool will be broke in a year. 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/20/antonio-brown-is-cut-by-the-patriots/

Browns aren't considering him, are they? That would be a monster bonehead move. 

I've had some of my Browns insiders text me on this. I really don't know why they would go this direction. They have enough volatile players as is. 

32 minutes ago, Mudfly said:

And you think his # of endorsements directly effects his play? Thats a reach.....

Really? History is littered with athletes who fall down after getting too entrenched with sideline distractions. You don't realize this? Have you not seen Rocky 3? 

1 minute ago, hoorta said:

Like we care anymore what Cow-pie thinks? We already know he hates Baker.   

It's not about "who says what" it's about what has truth to it. Baker had 13 commercials and 9 magazine articles in the offseason. Has he looked prepared to you in the 1st two weeks? Can you answer that with honesty? 

Today he was saying Baker's off-field distractions are hurting his game. He said he was doing too many commercials and things.

Said Lamar Jackson was doing no commercials or anything like that, and he was obviously spending time in the weight room instead.

He feels you need to focus on being great before you focus on building your brand. We shall see if he's right or not. 

1 hour ago, hoorta said:

LOL, and Paxton has reached his true ceiling.... Good to see that drafting bust QBs in the first round isn't limited to the Browns anymore....  

Lynch is hot garbage on an August afternoon. 

4 hours ago, The Gipper said:

By the way, per the depth chart, the Steelers backup QB is now a guy named  Devlin Hodges?

Anyone ever heard of this guy?

Are they in the market for a more experienced (better) backup?  Who would be out there?

Threw for 4,283 yards his Sr. year at Samford and over 70% completion %. I bet he's better than the newly added Lynch. You never know when an unheralded, undrafted QB makes some news. Certainly not often though. 

17 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

With Higgins hurt and Callaway still serving suspension...

Do we?

No, not with the above 2 out. 

10 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Again... not "die", just be mediocre...

They will do just enough to keep Tomlin, everyone in the AFC celebrates. It would be scary if they had a HC like even Harbaugh. Hell, if Hoodie coached that team they'd win rings. If they win 8 games, Tomlin will be lauded. 

On 9/17/2019 at 6:33 PM, Vagitron said:

I never said he was Ben. He could be really good tho and that's all that matters. What isn't to get? Sean Davis has a torn labrum. He just got put on IR.  Minka fitzpatrick is a born leader, 22 years old and is still on his rookie contract. He could come out next draft and still be young. On top of that he's already proven, you know what you are getting and he's go time right now. The trade makes nothing but sense, especially when the steelers have such a hard time identifying secondary talent.

Replacing Davis was a blessing for Pitt, he was horrid but Steelers' brass wouldn't admit it. But Minka better be pro bowl level or it's a bad move. I doubt Rudolph will be what Ben was. Can he pull out wins like Ben did all the time? Also, Edmunds not looking like a good 1st-round pick. He's always out of position. No instincts. Yea, he's big and fast, so what?

16 hours ago, medicineman said:

We should be some what concerned because we only have 4 Touchdowns for the season? That is not good at all when you look at the talent we have and the 2 Defenses we went up against. We should of put up over 30 against the Jets by the 3rd Quarter. We should of had way more against the titans  We need to run the ball more in the red zone and run it right up the gut on 3rd and short, Not some stupid ass 3 yard side line route that gets thrown in to triple coverage and is thrown 20 yards out of bounds. Very poor play calling at this point, Very poor. And now we mite of lost our very good TE for the season by hanging him out to dry on what would of only been a 3 yard gain if even caught. We do not look like a 500 team let alone a Playoff contender. 

I know I am dating myself, but didn't that play remind you of the hit Browns put on Don Beebe in the playoffs? It was the season before the Bills got really good. He's so lucky he walked away. 

7 minutes ago, runyon27 said:

I agree with this, I think we were too pass happy in the second half of the game Monday. More Chubb to setup the play action. I love that Baker is looking to take deep shots but he seems more intent on doing this so far instead of hitting whats available. We have seen him hold the ball too long while shorter routes were open and he has missed some throws last year he hit with regularity. I think more focus on the run game makes everything else better, we try to get in a shoot out Sunday Night we will lose.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/losangelesrams/statistics?team=LA

I worry about LA's top 3 WRs. Sure they can cover 1 well, maybe 2, but all 3?

Kupp

Cooks and

Woods? 

Plus Gurley is healthy for now. Sure, Garrett will have his moments...but Malcom Brown is rushing for the same apc (5.3) as Todd. Put it this way: Browns must progress and play better than they have so far this season or a win will be tough to nab. Freddie better learn quick, on the job. Real quick.  

34 minutes ago, jiggins7919 said:

Well, we're at home and I don't think the Rams have offensively blown up yet either. Browns are still getting some good media love and many still seem to think we'll get it together soon. Will we? I dunno, but it won't help losing Njoku because our other TEs aren't exactly all world. 

This game definitely has me worried for Baker's safety, as he won't be able to hold onto the ball as long this week without dying. What makes me feel good is how Freddie is stressing getting the rock out quicker, so that tells me they'll work on getting it right. The funny thing is, it would not surprise me to see us play much better and win, and it also wouldn't surprise me if we laid an egg, lol. One thing I do know is that we need to get Baker cooking EARLY, and I'm confident that we will. 

They got to get Baker more open to hitting the open man instead of always trying to hit a big play. He is pushing too much so far. 

21 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

First... we have a FB... he's on IR.

Second those above that said the OL was "improved" this week are correct... It was... Even PFF says so. We had two starters earn grades >80, Bito and Hubbard.

Third, we ran pretty damn well early. Chubb opened with back-to-back carries for 8 and 4 yards... Chubb's 19-yard TD came with nearly 11 minutes left in Q2. Late in the game we went very conservative and after Chubb was thought to have been dinged most of those late carries went to D'Ernest... and he ain't Hillliard let alone Hunt.

So, you don't have a FB. If it was a position that mattered, they'd have signed another one. What? If a positional player gets hurt, you just give up and don't sign another player to take his place? If FB mattered to the Browns they would have signed another. Fact is, you don't need a FB to have a prolific rushing game. 

33 minutes ago, TypicalBrowns50 said:

Correct ☝️It’s been the playcalling. There is no rhyme or reason to the offense

I agree. No cohesion, just backyard football, or worse. Baker needs to chill, he's pressing. 

2 hours ago, hoorta said:

They also have a running QB. Let me repeat in case you missed it- 126 rushing yards, #17 in the NFL to date. You in denial about that? Question is- how long is Lamar going to be able to keep up that pace before he winds up on IR?  

Jackson is a freak athlete. I bet he stays healthy for 3 years. All that team needs is 2 bombs a game, like Randell Cunningham's Eagles. 

17 minutes ago, Mudfly said:

Definitely need to step up the running game and utilize Chubb better......the whole flow to the offense has been very disjointed... the limited running plays weve seen have not been properly set up either.....not so sure its an issue with the line, as much as the flow and predictability of the plays....Freddie and Baker both need to settle down and develop some chemistry(and patience)....

Baker does need to chill out a bit, he's too amped up and you can tell. But I'd rather have a QB who is too amped than one who is feckless. 

10 minutes ago, hoorta said:

The Ravens lead the league in rushing? No shit- they also lead the league in attempts per game. Like 19 more per game to date than the Browns- their whole offense is predicated on that. Add in Lamar Jackson's 126 yards, which puts him at #17, that's slightly less than 1\2 the other guys who are designated as running backs.  BTW- the Ratbirds are #24 in the league in passing attempts, hardly balanced. 

So hats off to them- if it's working, keep on doing it- until other teams stop it. I'll wait and see how that offense fares against Mahomes and the Chiefs if Pat starts putting up video game numbers against them.  

You can live in denial if you wish, but the Ravens have proven they can rush and pass so far (against weak opponents). And they have the best D in the NFL so far. 

50 minutes ago, flyingfooldoug said:

So when we win Sunday night against the Rams..... then what?

Then.......Browns fan loses its collective mind. I'd worry about the team thinking they have arrived too soon though. But certainly, a win vs. the Rams will be meaningful. 

1 hour ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

This isn’t a heavy running team. We don’t even have a FB.. the o-line performed much better than last week. Great blocking on Chubb TD run.

Most teams don't have a FB, but that doesn't mean they don't have a better rushing attack than 70 yards a game. The Ravens lead the league in rushing, by far. Guess what? No FB listed on their roster. Indy is #2 best rushing team, no FB. And so on. Come Nov., the Browns better hope they have a rushing game, or not good. 

3 minutes ago, CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS said:

This isn’t a heavy running team. We don’t even have a FB.. the o-line performed much better than last week. Great blocking on Chubb TD run.

I don't know. The sports talking heads are saying Baker had to run for his life all game. I watched every play, and I also felt he was facing a good deal of pressure most of the night.  If it is true that the OL play isn't that good, we will find out next week vs. the Rams and Aaron Donald. If the OL is as solid as some claim, the Rams won't put a paw on Baker, or not many, any how.