QUINN OUT FOR SEASON!!!

[attila]

You are all the biggest whiners on the planet. Officially bigger whiners than the Bucknut fans. Get off the Brady Quinn bandwagon. Denver and Buffalo suck. He has proved nothing yet. I'm embarassed to be a Browns fan....

 

Edwards and Romeo screwed up DA. If you can't see that, you're a moron.

 

[Mr. T]

Maybe DA can salvage some type of success so that his stats look better at the end of the year. How can he look the fans in the eye making that kind of loot and performing so bad.

[bigred]

You are all the biggest whiners on the planet. Officially bigger whiners than the Bucknut fans. Get off the Brady Quinn bandwagon. Denver and Buffalo suck. He has proved nothing yet. I'm embarassed to be a Browns fan....

 

Edwards and Romeo screwed up DA. If you can't see that, you're a moron.

 

 

Who ruined DA in Baltimore?

[DTBH]

What kind of pussy gets an owie on his finger and is out for the year?

 

Well now the Browns have a chance to win some games at least.

 

Another bonus for the Browns is maybe all the BQ Fags just won't show up to the games. That way the team won't have to deal with the home crowd chanting for Quinn, Cowher, etc... while they're trying to play a football game.

 

1. The kind of guy that ignored the injury, toughed it out for his teammates, and played DESPITE a season-ending cailber injury that couldn't possibly allow him to grip and throw the football.

 

2. I was at multiple games before the Quinn era, 2 during, and will be at many the rest of the year. How many you been to?

 

 

 

[Guest Aloysius]

Seriously, guys, don't quote Lumbergh.

 

He's smart enough to understand why BQ can't play; he's just trying to rile you guys up.

 

You should spend more time focusing on what guys like cmac are posting. I thought his post above was great.

[manbearpig]

I think and hope that DA will play well. I pray that the fans will stop booing BE on his first drop!! If that didn't kill his confidence for the whole texans game, it should have. If you are a fan, you will get up and cheer for your qb. Wish the guy well and encourage your team. I know they look like shit right now but booing them is not going to help any. Believe me, they know they stink right now. I am sure they are going to go out and try hard to salvage this season. Sure they won't make the playoffs but at least they can try and bury some of their turds. As far as Quinn... I agree, who the hell lets a guy play with a torn tendon?!! Maybe RAC did that to get him out for the season so he could finish with DA, I highly doubt it but hell, at this point I just don't know.

[sisky fringo]

"I told you we needed 2 quarterbacks!"

you beat me to it.

 

[Lumbergh]

there's a rumor that this is an injury that won't ever heal.

[Flugel]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8850902...-rest-of-season

 

There will be no more quarterback controversy in Cleveland this season.

 

A team source said that all agreed that Quinn needed to shut it down before the tendons tore from the bone.

 

 

Maybe they won't kick us in the throat any more and they'll start Dorsey instead of DA.

- Tom F.

[irishlass]

Aside from the "could this get any worse"... where does this put our team? Do we continue to have a QB controversy for another off-season? Where is the future of our team? Will DA continue to be a Brown next year? Is BQ our QB in 09? Sorry, more questions than answers...was eagerly anticipating BQ establishing the fundamentals to be the QB we need for the future, because DA is nothing but limitations that we've seen far too often.

Also, does the resurgence of DA give Romeo carte blanche for another dismal season in 09?

 

Starting to feel really hopeless...

[manbearpig]

I think DA will help answer this with his performance. Either he will play well, or he won't. If he doesn't I can't blame him fully. I have seen the guy play great as well as terrible. Is Dorsey someone he can learn from or not? I personally have never seen Dorsey do anything great. I have never blamed everything on DA. That aside, I have seen bad things from him and continue to see them. I have also seen great things. I think this is a coaching problem. I believe that if we let DA go, we'll have to watch him come back to Cleveland and kick ass and take names. That's if he gets a good coach and team. I am dissapointed that we won't get to see what BQ could do this year, and I seriously hope this isn't a career ending injury! Only a complete asshole would wish a career ending injury on ANYONE. That's terrrible. If you are wishing that, you are a poor excuse for a human being.

[SoCalBrownsFan]

F*ck playing DA, been there, done that, no thanks, not again.

 

Bring on Dorsey.

 

DORSEY DORSEY DORSEY!

[irishlass]

I agree...the season is over...see what the kid can do

[nickers]

I agree...the season is over...see what the kid can do

 

 

 

we had already seen DA 25 times already to know he fuckin sucks....no thanx...

[sisky fringo]

had this dog when i was a kid, didn't like to listen to me. i'd call him and call him and when he'd finally come back i'd let him have it. years later i was stoned in a field thinking "why the fuck would i ever come over to someone that hit me all the time?!?"

 

we browns fans under 40 have never had anything really nice that didn't dissolve in a year or less, no wonder we don't understand.

 

we'll never quit the suck and we can't have anything without breaking it. are we sadomasochists or what?

 

and why the demand of reciprocation, can't 12th men just reward noise?

we should get Bernie down on the 50 with a 12" cowbell and a firehat. is there a rule against cowbells now?

 

i overheard my neighbor the other day saying "hey, keep the good toys away from the Browns fan's kids, k?"

 

just kidding. my kids are in nebraska.

 

 

no really, i don't have any kids.

[JC]

You are all the biggest whiners on the planet. Officially bigger whiners than the Bucknut fans. Get off the Brady Quinn bandwagon. Denver and Buffalo suck. He has proved nothing yet. I'm embarassed to be a Browns fan....

 

Edwards and Romeo screwed up DA. If you can't see that, you're a moron.

 

You're a Browns fan? That's funny, I could have swore you were a duechebag.

[cmac12]

Who cares what Dorsey can do? He is the number 3 Qb and will be when DA gets traded in the off season. The Browns will pick up a veteran QB to back up BQ.

 

I agree that I hope it is not a career ending injury and have not heard that anywhere. Lum is probably just trying to make everybody freak out, I would ignore him unless he gives me a link to that story.

 

DA is and should be the starter with BQ out.

 

Big Red just looked at the schedule. That is a tough schedule, BQ might be lucky he does not have to face it.

 

Wins Philly and Cincy. I do not think DA will play horrible against these two teams. And I am going to go out on a limb and say that the Browns will beat the Steelers to end the season. Pittsburgh will be resting starters and it will make the Browns season to beat them.

 

That is my prediction 3 and 2 to end the season. 7 - 9 record. Not what is wanted but with the troubles the team has had and the difficult schedule I think that is what it will end up.

 

You might think I am crazy but that is my prediction.

[JC]

This is horrible. What's next? Phil Dawson's feet falling off? I can't take much more.

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

This is horrible. What's next? Phil Dawson's feet falling off? I can't take much more.

 

 

Well, on the bright side ....Quinn absolutely looked like a star at QB until Fraley stepped aside and played Ole' several times in the first quarter of the Buffalo game and almost got Quinns finger ripped off. SO providing that his finger heals 100%, I think we have something special. *sigh*

[iMogwai85]

From James Walker's ESPN article:

 

"Quinn thought he only bruised his hand last week but complained of soreness following practice on Wednesday. Tests revealed a small fracture on the tip of his finger and Quinn was examined at the Cleveland Clinic by a specialist, who cleared the former Notre Dame star to make his third career start Sunday."

 

 

Good ol' Cleveland Clinic. Always there for us. Always on our side.

[sisky fringo]

I think DA will help answer this with his performance. Either he will play well, or he won't. If he doesn't I can't blame him fully. I have seen the guy play great as well as terrible. Is Dorsey someone he can learn from or not? I personally have never seen Dorsey do anything great. I have never blamed everything on DA. That aside, I have seen bad things from him and continue to see them. I have also seen great things. I think this is a coaching problem. I believe that if we let DA go, we'll have to watch him come back to Cleveland and kick ass and take names. That's if he gets a good coach and team.

he has one here...i hope the kid stays. i've said it before he'd make a hell of a #2 if he could endure it.

 

and again, just to reiterate my stance, the 5M bonus and 4.9+M cap hit is a wash, so if no one offers anything attractive for DA he's a pretty good buy for 1.45 mil.

with 24 or so starts (plus preseasons) a pro bowl, 2 yrs in the system......that is, if Chud is still around. you're gonna pay that + for a vet. everything changes if the regime goes, though.

 

and you fortune tellers predicting what a coach might give for DA 11 games into the season, got any good stock tips? i could use a good one. let's hope someone's really desperate and it's a SUPER GOOD christmas. i want a QB who leaves no doubt, and it's none of these guys.

none of em.

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

I hereby start the "Start Cribbs at QB or RB the rest of the season" petition. He'd excel at RB, and I wouldn't mind seeing what he's got at QB ...maybe he can become our 3rd stringer for next season.

[bigred]

Who cares what Dorsey can do? He is the number 3 Qb and will be when DA gets traded in the off season. The Browns will pick up a veteran QB to back up BQ.

 

I agree that I hope it is not a career ending injury and have not heard that anywhere. Lum is probably just trying to make everybody freak out, I would ignore him unless he gives me a link to that story.

 

DA is and should be the starter with BQ out.

 

Big Red just looked at the schedule. That is a tough schedule, BQ might be lucky he does not have to face it.

 

Wins Philly and Cincy. I do not think DA will play horrible against these two teams. And I am going to go out on a limb and say that the Browns will beat the Steelers to end the season. Pittsburgh will be resting starters and it will make the Browns season to beat them.

 

That is my prediction 3 and 2 to end the season. 7 - 9 record. Not what is wanted but with the troubles the team has had and the difficult schedule I think that is what it will end up.

 

You might think I am crazy but that is my prediction.

 

 

Maybe cincinnati but that's it. No way there going 7-9 and I never said BQ would do better in those games. They will be lucky to pull one win the way DA has looked the last 2 games againist cincinnati.

 

[ballpeen]

Just commenting.

 

Something strange about all of this. We go from a non injury to a season ending injury.

 

This now means we have to keep DA through next season. No way can we entertain getting rid of him and throwing everything in Quinn court on 2 marginal starts...not to mention a injury that who knows how thats going to turn out...maybe the guy is going to be one of those injury prone qbs.

 

I am not saying that to knock him.....but you know they type....there is always something wrong with them.

[Vegasdogg]

People asking for Dorsey obviously have never seen him play. He is not a good QB. He needs to be a coach of QB's, not a QB.

 

DA is not good enough to play himself into trade value. Also, yes we're getting rid of DA. This team cannot shell out the $$$ for both of them, and I am pretty sure Quinn will give the Browns the big fook off if they try to sit him. DA will do the same.

 

Any fan of DA who thinks he can win - well, when is that going to happen? When the fook is this guy going to sack up and win? And I am not talking about Miami, Seattle and Cincy last year, either.

 

 

[Vegasdogg]

maybe the guy is going to be one of those injury prone qbs.

Then again maybe he won't. He has never missed a game before because of injury.

[Flugel]

he has one here...i hope the kid stays. i've said it before he'd make a hell of a #2 if he could endure it.

 

The TROUBLE with DA is that in TRAINING Camp they put a red jersey on him (meaning don't touch). When that happens, he's a different QB with GREAT mechanics and poise. When we face opponents - the red jersey comes off, the pass rush comes in, the poise is gone and the mechanics are completely different.

 

Sisky, the biggest problem with the #2 thing is that comes from a sports fan instead of DA's agent. An agent, acting in the best interest of HIMSELF, will research the MOST chaotic team in transition for starting pay and ultimately that signing bonus he wants to whore off of. He won't let his QB aim for backup duty because of what it'l cost financially. He'll go get starting pay for one of the worst couple teams and get booed to the sidelines like he's done here. Expecting him to do anything else means we're asking him to be something he's not. We're not playing a schedule full of opponents averaging 4 wins so last year was an exception to the rule. We're playing the schedule that had DA 0-3 in his first 3 starts and 3-5 with this season.

 

The PROBLEM with all this waiting to insert Quinn as late as we did - is it NEVER gave DA a chance to sit and see the things he wasn't doing right. When a STARTING pitcher loses command of his pitches - the coaching staff does him NO favors keepign him out there so his teammates SOUR on him and BLAME him for the scoreboard. If anything, they resent him. I think we saw this and it spilled over to us fans.

 

What our Oregon State DA fans don't realize is NONE of us DRAFTED Quinn BUT since Savge did so in round 1 - it just NEVER made sense to draft what we hoped was Dan Marino ONLY to start what looked like Scot Mitchell for as long as we did. DA was 0-3 as a starter so when December rolled around and ALL the DCs were shutting him down - even Cincy for 4 INTs, we should have used the RELIEF pitcher/SPARK excuse for playing him. Right there - our brass SCREWED UP huge. Quinn should have also played the rest of the SF game DA got dinged up in since the only thing attering to our playoff hopes was Tenn needing to lose. Our game didn't matter either way.

 

This offense practiced GIVING UP every time they saw the human surrender flag with a #3 on his chest. They got real good at giving up to the point of no return. How many consecutive weeks did it get reinforced? I STOPPED blaming Dumb Ass because he's not making the decision to start himself. RAC's Head Coaching Tombstone is gonna read "I started Dumb Ass and all I got was a lousy piece of pink paper!"

- Tom F. (I'll just take Pepto Bismal before each game the rest of the way - it's not like I haven't had plenty of practice)

[Legacy Fan]

Awesome.

 

Over/Under on when we see the "Brady Quinn contracts staph" report set at 3 days.

 

 

Put Cribbs & Harrison in the backfield and run the mother-effing WildDawg for the rest of the season.

 

Draft an LB (or 2), DT/DE, and Pat White to replace Braylon Edwards as our #1. Punch Stallworth in his head.

[roach]

Aside from the "could this get any worse"... where does this put our team? Do we continue to have a QB controversy for another off-season? Where is the future of our team? Will DA continue to be a Brown next year?

 

There will be a new head coach. That new coach will name BQ as the starter. The Browns will rework DA's contract so that he is well paid (but not at the level that is currently stipulated). They will draft or sign a developmental QB.

 

[WPB Dawg Fan]

One thing this does is put a little more perspective on the last two games from Quinn.

 

He broke the finger in the 1st Q of his 2nd game. So the only time that he was throwing the ball healthy...and with a finger that could put the proper spin on the ball..was the first game. The last 2 games have to be taken with a grain of salt knowing now how bad an injury it was to that finger.

 

So much for the comments that he was no more accurate than DA. He was in the only game he was healthy...and will be again.

 

Now, as for what this means to the Browns.

 

We have the following games:

 

Indianapolis (12th): 80.5 QBR against, 16 sacks and 10 INT's

Tennessee (2nd): 64.5 QBR against, 30 sacks, 16 INT's

Philadelphia (11th): 79.3 QBR against, 39 sacks, 9 INT's

Cincinnati (18th): 86.0 QBR against, 11 sacks, 8 int's

Pittsburgh (4th): 71.1 QBR against, 37 sacks, 11 int's

 

The only 'easy' game for DA will be Cincinnati...so if he manages to get about an 80 QBR for the remainder of the season he will definitely improve his trade value.

 

And I really think there is NO WAY we are keeping him. We have too many holes in the team and need the extra draft choices.