shepwrite Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I like this. No retread baggage, one of Heckert and Holmgren's guys so we'll all be on same page, dedicated WCO coach, quarterback friendly, not too old and not too young... http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ator_pat_2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I know nothing about this guy, is he fiery? Football smart? Not to conservative? No one else seems to interested in him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't like this at all. He is getting credit for developing bradford.. one year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 He is the frontrunner now until Philly loses and thier OC interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 who else has interviewed for the HC job ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 you guys must be lovin this huh? :lol: :lol: be careful what you wish for dummies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 you guys must be lovin this huh? :lol: :lol: be careful what you wish for dummies. My outside take is there is absolutely nothing wrong with interviewing and possibly hiring a virtual unknown. There aren't really any lofty expectations based on pedigree or lack thereof, he comes in fresh and his a guy familiar with two in your front office. Tomlin wasn't all that well known when hired and he's now arguably one of the best coaches in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 My outside take is there is absolutely nothing wrong with interviewing and possibly hiring a virtual unknown. There aren't really any lofty expectations based on pedigree or lack thereof, he comes in fresh and his a guy familiar with two in your front office. Tomlin wasn't all that well known when hired and he's now arguably one of the best coaches in the league. i'm bustin chops. i don't agree that tomlin is one of the best coaches though. i do think he's lucky to be amongst, from top to bottom, one of the best organizations in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 i'm bustin chops. i don't agree that tomlin is one of the best coaches though. i do think he's lucky to be amongst, from top to bottom, one of the best organizations in the league. Well you'd be wrong but it's your opinion too which you're entitled. He's easily one of the best coaches in the league. He commands the sideline, the locker room and his players respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Well you'd be wrong but it's your opinion too which you're entitled. He's easily one of the best coaches in the league. He commands the sideline, the locker room and his players respond. whatever. if being a presence on the sideline makes you a great coach then where is your boy wannstedt? i'm thinking more and more that the ehad coaches in football should be renamed managers as in baseball. are they calling plays? for the most part no. are they setting the defensive schemes? no. they manage the ones that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 whatever. if being a presence on the sideline makes you a great coach then where is your boy wannstedt? i'm thinking more and more that the ehad coaches in football should be renamed managers as in baseball. are they calling plays? for the most part no. are they setting the defensive schemes? no. they manage the ones that do. Once again you'd be wrong. Tomlin is heavily involved in the schemes and controls that team. It's short sighted to assume he's some sort of sideline figure head. If that's the case for the Head Coaches in the league why are some of the betters ones paid so substantially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Dont know very much about him so i cant say i love or hate the pick, i like that he has ties to Heckert and runs the system we are trying to build around here. But seriously you can not tell what hes done with Bradford in only one year only time will tell on that situation, although they didnt have an WRs there this year and he made the best out of it sorta like Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Mangini tried to hire him when he was in New York. So maybe your guys are on to something and he does suck, since you know Mangini wanted to hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Mixed feelings. I know nothing about this guy. Seems like it would be a long rebuilding process with a first time HC...again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Like I said, he was QB coach in Philly for like 8 years in a WCO while Heckert was GM and McNabb was making Pro Bowls... then became the Rams OC and was given a lot of credit for keeping Bradford alive and playing productive football in spite of a lack of WRs (hey... sounds like McNabb, too). He's been running Holmgren's WCO (via Reid) for a very long time. He's an inner-circle guy with our brass. He's seen as someone who would be good for Colt McCoy. He's the nephew of Fritz Shurmur, Holmgren's DC in Green Bay for all those glory years, a personal connection. My sense was that Holmgren would hire from his own tree and that's exactly what Pat Shurmur is. He's from the offensive side of the ball, which allows for the possibility of retaining Ryan, which is a possibility, I think. Because he isn't an 800-pound gorilla yet, he can co-exist with a very strong prez/GM combo in Holmgren and Heckert. No doubt that Mornhinweg is a serious player in this thing (Stanford wants him as OC, reportedly, to keep the WCO)... and I'd say it comes down to those two guys. Both fit what I thought we'd want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Something interesting: He actually was a DEFENSIVE coordinator for the Packers from 94-98 before joining the Eagles for a decade, the last 7 as QB coach. He knows both sides of the ball (well, his uncle was Fritz). He's been a DC AND an OC. I like it. He's OUR coach for the next 20 years, not a retread. http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x196619821...ew-Rams-Shurmur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsFan4Evr Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 This was written by Mary Kay Cabot......we all know how reliable she is, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 This was written by Mary Kay Cabot......we all know how reliable she is, right? She's parroting national reports based on NFL execs. Grossi parroted the same reports. Came from Mortenson and Shefter, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 This was written by Mary Kay Cabot......we all know how reliable she is, right? Not a fan of MKC, but she didn't write the guys experience, or make him a DC and an OC in two of the most successful organizations in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 If gruden is hired something will emerge from my pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 If gruden is hired something will emerge from my pants tell us something we dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I'm getting wood for Shurmur, honestly. Just got a vibe that he's the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I'm getting wood for Shurmur, honestly. Just got a vibe that he's the right guy. Has this whole forum turned homo? I don't have a boner for any coach, even my favorite: Mike Holmgren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Something interesting: He actually was a DEFENSIVE coordinator for the Packers from 94-98 before joining the Eagles for a decade, the last 7 as QB coach. He knows both sides of the ball (well, his uncle was Fritz). He's been a DC AND an OC. I like it. He's OUR coach for the next 20 years, not a retread. http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x196619821...ew-Rams-Shurmur I wouldnt be so sure about this guy i would rather have a retread than a new tire with an unseen multi ply flaw... Regardless of who it is we need it to be a real solution and not another 2 and out idiot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 whatever. if being a presence on the sideline makes you a great coach then where is your boy wannstedt? i'm thinking more and more that the ehad coaches in football should be renamed managers as in baseball. are they calling plays? for the most part no. are they setting the defensive schemes? no. they manage the ones that do. There is no use arguing with the mighty Homo. The entire steeler organization including their fans are Gods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 we'll either be the cleveland eagles or the seattle browns next year. whippee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Shurmur may be a decent candidate. Holmgren & Heckert will decide that. One correction though, Pat Shurmur was NOT a DC from 1994 to 1998....His Uncle, Fritz Shurmur, was. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 we'll either be the cleveland eagles or the seattle browns next year. whippee! It's better than being the Cleveland Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Once again you'd be wrong. Tomlin is heavily involved in the schemes and controls that team. It's short sighted to assume he's some sort of sideline figure head. If that's the case for the Head Coaches in the league why are some of the betters ones paid so substantially? Not exactly. He inherited a Superbowl team with those schemes already in place. All he has to do is keep the status quo. I've always said that we won't know if Tomlin is a great coach when LeBaue retires and the core guys are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 If gruden is hired something will emerge from my pants hopefully your girl friends lips are part of the package.....hee haw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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