calfoxwc Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Time to take Santorum seriously. I did earlier, and Heck didn't take that seriously at all. The cream will rise to the top, they say. I'm kinda warming up to Romney - but Santorum is the guy I WANT to vote for. Does anybody still think Santorum shouldn't be taken seriously? *********************** RESULTS: CO... MO... MN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 He is probably the best man for the job. I am sure the attack dogs will be after him in the next few days to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I don't take him seriously. I don't think he's an idiot and I do think that he comes across much better than I ever expected. He also seems like a pretty decent fellow just wait until the axelrod hate machine fires up. Still while I may sympathize with part of the social agenda it's not really a hot button set of issues for me. I don't think it's going to be a deal breaker with most voters either. He doesn't seem to have the personal gravitas that it takes to win an election. Then again I never thought george w bush did either and he surprised me. Of course it's a long way to november. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 "The cream will rise to the top" .... not the phrase you want to use with Santorum. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 "The cream will rise to the top" .... not the phrase you want to use with Santorum. Lol Poor guy has a terrible last name. But it looks like he is in the lead now. Does anyone know how many delegates he is carrying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 His last name means what it does BECAUSE of him. His fault. I wouldn't call him a "poor guy" because of his own doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 His last name means what it does BECAUSE of him. His fault. I wouldn't call him a "poor guy" because of his own doing. Boy, no one likes Mitt, do they? (Mostly because he's unlikable.) Santorum is a pro politician, and is the only guy who can really differentiate himself from Romney on issues. And people get that he actually believes them. But I don't think you have to worry too much about that terrifying Axelrod machine you keep freaking out about, Steve. I don't think anyone on my side really thinks Santorum is going to win, and they'll keep their sites on Romney. And in the event Santorum does win, they'll dance a jig and pop the champagne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 And don't worry, Cal. Come November, you'll be telling us all how Mitt Romney is a great American hero and all that stands between us and the Maoist re-education camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's interesting how Rick Santorum is leading President Barack Obama in a one-on-one matchup. If that is the case then the only dancing Obama will be doing is packing up his U-Haul trailer. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Please, please, nominate the guy who lost his Pennsylvania Senate race - as an incumbent - by 18 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 If Santorum wins the nomination, the election will be just as lopsided as the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 If the right loses with Romney, they'll feel they nominated the wrong guy, someone who wasn't a true conservative. At least with Santorum they won't have that problem. Except that all the moderate Republicans (all 12 of them) will be screaming, "Why did we nominate a guy that was so far to the right that we couldn't win?" Come November, it'll be Romney and Rubio and no one is going to remember the Missouri and Minnesota results, or care. Things are really looking up for the president lately. But all can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Some of the NY republicans will think they have went back to the Goldwater days which will not be the case. The conservative republican base will dictate this nomination process. They are sick and tired of the lies from the main stream media. Those candidates who are stuck in the middle will always lose. McCain was in the middle and he lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Boy, no one likes Mitt, do they? (Mostly because he's unlikable.) Santorum is a pro politician, and is the only guy who can really differentiate himself from Romney on issues. And people get that he actually believes them. But I don't think you have to worry too much about that terrifying Axelrod machine you keep freaking out about, Steve. I don't think anyone on my side really thinks Santorum is going to win, and they'll keep their sites on Romney. And in the event Santorum does win, they'll dance a jig and pop the champagne. Did you quote the wrong person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex Yeah, I'll vote for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 The consensus is that the average Joe 6-pack relates well with Santorum and his politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 ... and equating gay sex with bestiality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Most moderates aren't gonna vote for a super social conservative candidate in the general election. You remember what happened when Palin got on the ticket, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Most moderates aren't gonna vote for a super social conservative candidate in the general election. You remember what happened when Palin got on the ticket, right? She was also a moron. I wouldn't vote for a moron that believed in what I do either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 ... and equating gay sex with bestiality? Sorry to post a question, but do you think that beastieality is immoral? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Oh God here we go again... I'm gonna answer this and then you're gonna try to twist it all around with like 40 other questions and then try to make it sound like I agree with you. It doesn't matter what I think. He equated to people making love that line each other to a guy fucking a dog. Saying there is no difference between doing it with someone u love and a dog. That's horrible. This guy will get torn apart if he goes up against Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Sorry to post a question, but do you think that beastieality is immoral? WSS I'll bite. This question is not as cut-and-dry as people make it out to be. If you bend over in front of an animal, is it hurting the animal? Probably not. It might hurt you, if it's a horse (and potentially rip open your colon causing you to die from internal bleeding). If you take an animal from behind are you hurting it? Well, if so, it's probably going to struggle or kick you (again, if it's a horse, bad news). The difference here is a matter of consent. Humans are able to give consent or refuse. If you don't have consent, then what you are doing is rape. Since an animal is unable to give explicit consent, I'd argue that beastiality should either not be legislated or it should be made illegal. On the other hand, human children are able to consent to sex as well, however, it can, and often does, lead to stunting of emotional development and can cause serious mental health issues. Because of this, most societies place a minimum age of consent. Is fucking an animal immoral? Probably. Is getting fucked by an animal immoral? Probably not. Should they be legal? I don't think so. Should we waste any resources prosecuting a sheep fucker? Maybe if he's raping your sheep, so it shouldn't go any higher than a municipal or county level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 VT we've had a few discussions in the past about moral relativism Ana I'm a little surprised you took the stance you did on this issue. I mean no ones really being harmed and it's making someone happy, right? But it creeps us out so we try and find some way to make it wrong. Same thing with underage. Because it pisses us off to think of our children making it with the 40 year oldear old we make it immoral. Still among the over 18 set you and I have both seen probably dozens of relationships with emotional imbalance, correct? And those are by no means against the law. In the past you yourself have pointed out the differences in different cultures. And speaking of emotions can you imagine a 15 year old being a lot more cruel than a 45 year old possibly? And that's not it against the law. Bottom line is this: we make up our morality according to the things that affect us emotionally and physically. Then we try to assign universal right and wrong to those things. Besides beastieality there are dozens of fetishes that would probably turn our stomachs. And all of that is before you even address nature. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Point is Santorum is an ass and will get torn up in the general election because of this statement, if he makes it that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Point is Santorum is an ass and will get torn up in the general election because of this statement, if he makes it that far First he probably won't make it that far. Second I don't think many people care about the gay issues. Third the presidents most dedicarted voting block is more anti gay then most. Fourth most americans are against gay marriage. But in the end if its that big an issue for you then you should vote your conscience. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 VT we've had a few discussions in the past about moral relativism Ana I'm a little surprised you took the stance you did on this issue. I mean no ones really being harmed and it's making someone happy, right? But it creeps us out so we try and find some way to make it wrong. Same thing with underage. Because it pisses us off to think of our children making it with the 40 year oldear old we make it immoral. But it's not simply that. A 12 year old will very likely not understand the implications of a sexual relationship. Not in this culture anyways. Still among the over 18 set you and I have both seen probably dozens of relationships with emotional imbalance, correct? And those are by no means against the law. But one cannot ignore the correlation between sexual abuse as a minor and mental health issues as they go through puberty. The problems from this are typically far more severe than what you get in a sexual relationship as an adult. Are there problems with any relationship? Yes, but the type of problems that you're going to expose a minor to are not something they may understand. I understand this argument has its holes, ie. a 17 year old is going to understand the implications of a sexual relationship better than a 12 year old, but as a society, you need to place an age limit somewhere. In the past you yourself have pointed out the differences in different cultures. And speaking of emotions can you imagine a 15 year old being a lot more cruel than a 45 year old possibly? And that's not it against the law. There's a difference between being cruel and having the capacity to fuck up a person's life who is unable to grasp the consequences. Bottom line is this: we make up our morality according to the things that affect us emotionally and physically. Then we try to assign universal right and wrong to those things. Besides beastieality there are dozens of fetishes that would probably turn our stomachs. Naturally, morality is going to arise from things that affect us physically and emotionally. Some of it is hardwired into our genes (ie. seeing another person in distress releases stress hormones, seeing another person smile releases feel-good hormones) due to the nature of our evolution through group fitness. Some of it is also emergent, this one's a little hard to nail, but I think you'd agree with me that morality is subjective. Other fetishes require consent. Don't google BME Pain Olympics. If you're into S&M, that's your deal, but you consent to those things. Bestiality, however, you'll never get explicit consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Fourth most americans are against gay marriage. WSS Really? You sure... and I'll vote based off of my brain, I'll use intelligence and common sense. Not emotion, not cuz the guy is part of the party I blindly follow (though I don't follow any parties), not any of that. I'm an engineer motha fucka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Here is the breakdown on delegates Overall. Romney has 112 Santorum has 72* Gingrich has 32 Paul has 9 *The Missouri Republican Party will hold a caucus on March 17th which will determine the delegates sent to the 2012 GOP convention Members of the Republican National Committee who automatically attend the party's national convention can support any candidate they choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Gay marriage has majority support now, according to Gallup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Gay marriage has majority support now, according to Gallup. And who cares? Why do you promote it heck? I dont support it. And I will not compromise my position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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