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Dammit, Mr. Hoorta, you are right. My analogy sucked just like you said. It's just that it's hard to find one....

 

Getiing rid of all guns is like getting rid of all armies. One corrupt, illegal army will win every time.

 

Cal, I feel for all the RESPONSIBLE gun owners in this country. However- we're dealing with the lowest common denominator here.

 

Some of the details are coming out- this nut job shot his way into the school, took out the principal that was trying to stop him, fired HUNDREDS of rounds (that I'll assume) was .223 ammo. I can't even imagine the hate flowing through the guy to pump 11 rounds into 6 year old kid(s). It's beyond my comprehension.

 

Like Franklin said "those who would trade freedom for security will have neither." We're about to become less free, but that's been the process over the last 50 years, or longer. Frankly, even if there had been a guy with a CCP in the school, he would have been gunned down too- unless he happened to get off a mighty lucky head shot before he became a victim too.

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I laugh at your "tough guy persona" - phony......

i could care less what you think of me. i'm just giving my opinion. if you have to jump up and defend something WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? what you couldn't sleep unlees you knew you had you hand gun under the pillow? tough guy? why do YOU HAVE to have a gun in the house to make you feel protected?

 

you motherfucker are gonna tell someone else how to believe in GOD? fairhooker? wow. go pimp out some lolly dollies beat the shit out of them for not bring you enough money back and go roller skating down MJ's hershey highway.

 

really fagHOOKER.who are you billy graham JR.? if i don't believe in every verse in the bible i'm a blasphemous?

 

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

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i could care less what you think of me. i'm just giving my opinion. if you have to jump up and defend something WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? what you couldn't sleep unlees you knew you had you hand gun under the pillow? tough guy? why do YOU HAVE to have a gun in the house to make you feel protected?

 

whats wrong with the 2nd ammendment? why is gun ownership the problem?

 

you motherfucker are gonna tell someone else how to believe in GOD? fairhooker? wow. go pimp out some lolly dollies beat the shit out of them for not bring you enough money back and go roller skating down MJ's hershey highway.

 

I dont remember telling anyone about God, or even how to. ( and WTF is MJs hersey highway?) besides, NEXT time (if ever) dont delete the whole post, you know Context ?

 

really fagHOOKER.who are you billy graham JR.? if i don't believe in every verse in the bible i'm a blasphemous?

 

if thats your best insult, youve been reading TOO much of what Zomblo writes lol... but Id take the Billy Graham jr rep, only because the guy is humble & righteous so thanks for that!

 

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

so still laughing tough guy :lol: lol

 

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alright so i've calmed down a lot and have reread some posts that i wrote last night in an act of rage.

 

i have no hard feelings for anyone, especially people here who have endured years and years of hell-on-earth as far as football fans are concerned.

 

i'm not aetheist. i'm not religious. hell i don't care about politicians because i believe they are ALL liars and are only looking out for themselves. just don't preach to me. don't tell me how i should feel or act or live my life. i do know what right and wrong is. i do know what good and evil are. the problem is some people don't. and no matter how many church sessions or sit down therapy meetings will ever change a person's mind. you can't change gay. you can't fix stoopid. you can't change the color of your skin. does it mean that because you are sick that you can get away with murder? hell fucking no. because you were born gay does it mean you have the right to parade up and down broadway with your ass hanging out of some biker chaps? hell fucking no.

 

BUT

 

who am i to change that? i'm no doctor. i'm no preacher. and i'm not some sick demented serial killer who wants to off some queers at a bar because i don't believe in their lifestyle. that's the difference between the majority of people and the psychos. sure we might think about committing murder or other crimes BUT we don't. the psychos do.

 

so i still want to know why mom had an assault rifle.....anyone? (oh it was leagal though)

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No bullshit on you man. My friend has a finger print secured safe for quick access. And a iron combination safe for his rifles. So what your saying is this kid would of been able to cut his mom's hand off (plausible, lol) or has learned the ins and outs of safe cracking? You are 100% wrong. If these guns were secured by either option, this tragedy would not of happened.

 

The fact is, is it is our 2nd Amendment right to own a gun. PERIOD. Until that is changed, people need to secure their weapons.

 

My proposal, anyone who purchases a gun also needs to purchase a secure gun safe. If that weapon is used illegally, the person owning the gun shall see punishment as well, by way of a felony.

 

aren't you the guy that was smoking crack with your neighbor and he came back with a baseball bat and tried to rob you when you were living outside cleveland? you called the cops and you and your brother were looking for the guy? then you moved to north carolina?

 

i'm pretty sure it was you talking about you had a gun in your nightstand and the dude found it and was gonna kill you or somethin/ how'd that turn out?[

 

responsibility and guns. hmmmm.

 

if it wasn't you i apologize. i'll have to dig in the archives.......

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aren't you the guy that was smoking crack with your neighbor and he came back with a baseball bat and tried to rob you when you were living outside cleveland? you called the cops and you and your brother were looking for the guy? then you moved to north carolina?

 

i'm pretty sure it was you talking about you had a gun in your nightstand and the dude found it and was gonna kill you or somethin/ how'd that turn out?[

 

responsibility and guns. hmmmm.

 

if it wasn't you i apologize. i'll have to dig in the archives.......

 

WOW. Smoking crack with my neighbor? Gun in the nightstand? Looking for the guy? None of that happened. I didn't own a gun at that point, so I am pretty sure you're the one smoking crack. Someone broke into my house, tried to strangle me so, I punched him 4-5 times to get him off me, grabbed my bat I cracked his head open, called the cops, filed a report and he went to jail for a year over it. The cops said I was in my right to give him a beat down and basically congratulated me.

 

That is seriously funny as shit, your memory is toast. Thanks for the laugh. I think I even posted the police report because Die Hard didn't believe me.

 

Owned twice in one thread. Good day sir, I said good day.

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alright so i've calmed down a lot and have reread some posts that i wrote last night in an act of rage.

 

i have no hard feelings for anyone, especially people here who have endured years and years of hell-on-earth as far as football fans are concerned.

 

i'm not aetheist. i'm not religious. hell i don't care about politicians because i believe they are ALL liars and are only looking out for themselves. just don't preach to me. don't tell me how i should feel or act or live my life. i do know what right and wrong is. i do know what good and evil are. the problem is some people don't. and no matter how many church sessions or sit down therapy meetings will ever change a person's mind. you can't change gay. you can't fix stoopid. you can't change the color of your skin. does it mean that because you are sick that you can get away with murder? hell fucking no. because you were born gay does it mean you have the right to parade up and down broadway with your ass hanging out of some biker chaps? hell fucking no.

 

BUT

 

who am i to change that? i'm no doctor. i'm no preacher. and i'm not some sick demented serial killer who wants to off some queers at a bar because i don't believe in their lifestyle. that's the difference between the majority of people and the psychos. sure we might think about committing murder or other crimes BUT we don't. the psychos do.

 

so i still want to know why mom had an assault rifle.....anyone? (oh it was leagal though)

 

 

+1

 

it was told today that she might be a doomsday survivalist?

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They interviewed several people who were close friends with her and they said she was not a survivalist. She was into art, etc. She did like to target shoot and obviously liked weapons. She did according to those they interviewed keep the guns locked in a safe.

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she kept them locked in a safe? Apparently, he found the keys, or what?

 

I don't get that. I figure she lost the keys and didn't have it locked.

 

or ...

 

something.

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Someone broke into my house, tried to strangle me so, I punched him 4-5 times to get him off me, grabbed my bat I cracked his head open, called the cops, filed a report and he went to jail for a year over it. The cops said I was in my right to give him a beat down and basically congratulated me.

yeah my brain IS toast bBUT i did remember there was an incident, so i got that much right. i thought you and the other person were hanging out (drinking was it?) and he came back later and broke in.

 

i was a new member to the forum back then and applauded you for your action.

 

i'm not owned by anyone SIR. if you don't have the balls to come out of the closet and admit it was a lover's spat gone bad, well, that's on you.

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alright so i've calmed down a lot and have reread some posts that i wrote last night in an act of rage.

 

i have no hard feelings for anyone, especially people here who have endured years and years of hell-on-earth as far as football fans are concerned.

 

i'm not aetheist. i'm not religious. hell i don't care about politicians because i believe they are ALL liars and are only looking out for themselves. just don't preach to me. don't tell me how i should feel or act or live my life. i do know what right and wrong is. i do know what good and evil are. the problem is some people don't. and no matter how many church sessions or sit down therapy meetings will ever change a person's mind. you can't change gay. you can't fix stoopid. you can't change the color of your skin. does it mean that because you are sick that you can get away with murder? hell fucking no. because you were born gay does it mean you have the right to parade up and down broadway with your ass hanging out of some biker chaps? hell fucking no.

 

BUT

 

who am i to change that? i'm no doctor. i'm no preacher. and i'm not some sick demented serial killer who wants to off some queers at a bar because i don't believe in their lifestyle. that's the difference between the majority of people and the psychos. sure we might think about committing murder or other crimes BUT we don't. the psychos do.

 

so i still want to know why mom had an assault rifle.....anyone? (oh it was leagal though)

 

Did you read your homework? (D.C. vs Heller)?

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Damn that Elvis Presley! Gyrating his hips up on stage like so. He is a horrible influence on our children! I remember back in my day there wasn't any of this anti-Christian music to taint the youth with!

 

 

 

Mike Huckabee

 

"We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools," Huckabee said on Fox News, discussing the murder spree that took the lives of 20 children and 6 adults in Newtown, CT that morning. "Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?"

 

Excerpts from comments on his website

 

 

 

"... And we don’t teach them there is a Creator God who sets immutable rules, a God who is knowable, and to whom we are ultimately responsible. Instead we teach that God was not involved in our origins, that our very lives are biological happenstances..."

 

Yep. We teach evolution damn it. How dare we!

 

"... I realize my viewpoint sounds out-dated and archaic, but when that world view was the foundation of our nation’s social contract, we got in trouble at school for talking in class, chewing gum, pulling a girl’s pigtails, or slouching in our school desks..."

 

Damn any kind of social change, good or bad. Clearly everything should always be like it ever was...

 

"But when we as a nation feared God, we didn’t fear that a 20 year old with a high powered rifle would gun down our children in their schoolrooms."

 

Yes. If only we all blindly followed that one book again. Fuck diversity. Fuck thinking for yourself...

 

 

 

Is it really this is to get elected in certain parts of America. Say "God" as many times as you can, bash gays, bash science, then give a shoutout to the good ole days? Jesus. If we are all just shooting off our moves now about why America has problems I want to give a vote to guys like this and mindsets like this and like Ghoolies

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I was in a casino buffet line Saturday and some goofy 20 something fucktard kept reaching over me and bumping me to get at the food items he wanted.After three bumps I said to him "have you ever thought of saying excuse me" to which he replied "hey, you don't know me, you have no right to talke to me like that".

 

It took everything I could muste up not to crack his fucking jaw, Sorry, but the kid of aCOnservative or a Christian would have more training and moral foundation than that. This kid was trained by liberals, that damn it............ he is important.

 

 

 

I'm surprised you didn't smack him with your walker...

 

How do you know he wasn't the "son of a Conservative or a Christian"?

 

 

 

But yes, clearly he would be better off if his parents jammed fairy tales down his throat as a child and instilled the fear of an invisible man in the sky in him... along the way they could have told him to disregard science too...

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As to Ghoolie. I don't agree that liberals and none believers are to blame for this and to say so is so mind blowingly idiot.>>

 

Poor sentence structure foregive, I didn't blame this incident on liberals, but teh decay of civility IS directly a liberal and pagan result. People that are 20 - 40 today believe that they are vitally important, that all heir ideas deserve equal consideration and that nobody has a right to correct or criticize them.

 

I was in a casino buffet line Saturday and some goofy 20 something fucktard kept reaching over me and bumping me to get at the food items he wanted.After three bumps I said to him "have you ever thought of saying excuse me" to which he replied "hey, you don't know me, you have no right to talke to me like that".

 

It took everything I could muste up not to crack his fucking jaw, Sorry, but the kid of aCOnservative or a Christian would have more training and moral foundation than that. This kid was trained by liberals, that damn it............ he is important.

 

 

<<I will agree with the fact that our nation is incredible desensitized to violence through media and entertainment,>>

 

Desensitized? Are you in a coma? Where do you think these young kids are getting ideas from? When I was a boy pop music didn't have refenrecnse for glocks, and killing whites, or niggaz, or anything else. Movies didn't have mass killings, guys decek out in multiple gun wielding outfits, etc, etc. Hollywod and the music industry havne't desensitized cock, they have ENERGIZED violence.

 

<<but that has just been the growing trend over the decades since the 50's.>>

 

Not so, violence throught the 50s and 60s was for the most part, 0 growth. Violence in America begane to grow with the advent of the modern violence movie in the mid 570s.

 

I agree with a lot of what you posted, BUT, it is liberal precessing that decayed us to whare we are today.

 

 

I like how you leave out the flip side of your arguement. If my generation is so awful and self important its in direct correlation to the failings of your generation to instill any values.

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Just for the record, while some are laughing out loud at the notion that our society is in decay...

When I was 14 I remember it was a huge deal when somebody got a hold of a Playboy magazine.

Today any 12 year old can get on the computer and watch 100 videos of a woman being raped in the ass p**** mouth and beaten.

On television a gunshot usually produced grabbing the chest and falling to the floor.

Now its commonplace to see heads exploding and chunks of skull splattered across the scenery.

I can't tell you the exact extent of damage that this has caused to society in general but I can't imagine anyone thinking things are better for it.

And I can't think of a way to put that toothpaste back in the tube.

 

Still if I needed to point a finger it would be at our culture of celebrity.

Sick people have been committing suicide for centuries.

Now, more than ever before, they can go out as Superstars.

 

WSS

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yeah my brain IS toast bBUT i did remember there was an incident, so i got that much right. i thought you and the other person were hanging out (drinking was it?) and he came back later and broke in.

 

i was a new member to the forum back then and applauded you for your action.

 

i'm not owned by anyone SIR. if you don't have the balls to come out of the closet and admit it was a lover's spat gone bad, well, that's on you.

 

You're an idiot.

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Just for the record, while some are laughing out loud at the notion that our society is in decay...

When I was 14 I remember it was a huge deal when somebody got a hold of a Playboy magazine.

Today any 12 year old can get on the computer and watch 100 videos of a woman being raped in the ass p**** mouth and beaten.

On television a gunshot usually produced grabbing the chest and falling to the floor.

Now its commonplace to see heads exploding and chunks of skull splattered across the scenery.

I can't tell you the exact extent of damage that this has caused to society in general but I can't imagine anyone thinking things are better for it.

And I can't think of a way to put that toothpaste back in the tube.

 

Still if I needed to point a finger it would be at our culture of celebrity.

Sick people have been committing suicide for centuries.

Now, more than ever before, they can go out as Superstars.

 

WSS

 

 

This is exactly right.

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