beefjerky Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 What were your impressions? Josh Gordon obviously boosted him a lot, but he threw into a lot of tight windows that I think Weeden otherwise would have missed, he also had some decent evasions that I feel Weeden would have otherwise gotten trunched on. made a few awful mistakes but he comes off to me as the type that will study the film and learn from his mistakes to get better. He seems physically ready just not mentally ready yet. 321 yards (albeit with 54 attempts) 3 td 3 int in his first start with the Browns. I say we give him the rest of the season and see what we have with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Life of Brian.......one can hope...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbndawg Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Smarter with the football than Weeden. I can see less mistakes with Hoyer. He can throw the ball away instead of taking a sack. As far as this season goes.........no problem with Hoyer being the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 good touch and timing on the corner tosses to Cameron did anyone catch what Hoyer said (in another thread - Patriots training camp video) where he tossed the ball into a garbage can in the corner of the endzone and Brady couldnt? 3 picks - but redeemed himself on the final drive... Nice to see this win.. QB controversy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Not much throwing ability, nothing in the seams, good touch though.(which leads toward a good deal of quick release checkdowns). With Hoyer, you "Colt' D him. Bring everbody up and blitz like mad. Hoyer has got to know his own weaknesses or he will get picked alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hx214 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I think they would like to see him all year, it would be nice not to have to draft another Qb, but the way the O line is playing, and lack of a running game, don't know if he will hold up with out getting hurt. Two of those picks looked bad, but it was nice to see someone that had touch on his passes. Keep it rolling Hoyer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuwoohio Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Quicker decision making than Weeden. A little more movement (would like to see the pocket move more). More decisive. Main thing, he won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hoyer was Brady's backup in NE for 3 years. You could do worse at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hoyer is da man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunDawg Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Eh, anyone remember Kelly Holcomb? Gordon helped a lot. Lets see how Hoyer progresses before he is anointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Quicker decision making than Weeden. A little more movement (would like to see the pocket move more). More decisive. Main thing, he won the game. I liked what I saw. He also set his receivers up better for yards after the catch. He's great on those fades to the corner of the end zone & he & Cameron seem to have a nice chemistry. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 He's OK, if you don't mind winning ... Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'm not ready to "annoint" Hoyer, & Gordon's return was huge, but the on field performance sure was better today. Hoyer gets at least a portion of praise for that. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 good touch and timing on the corner tosses to Cameron did anyone catch what Hoyer said (in another thread - Patriots training camp video) where he tossed the ball into a garbage can in the corner of the endzone and Brady couldnt? 3 picks - but redeemed himself on the final drive... Nice to see this win.. QB controversy? Also this: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_browns_brian_hoyer_g.html In practice one day, all three quarterbacks -- including Jason Campbell, lined up about 20 yards away from a net with small pockets in it and fired away. Hoyer zipped all six of his passes into the tight pockets, while the other two missed about half their chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Sit Weeden for good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hoyer had good and bad. I saw a few throws that were behind the Receivers, but considering he hasn't really played or practiced since Pre-Season (and then with third stringers), I think he did okay. Should be interesting to see how he improves with extra practice and play if he's given the chance - no telling what our FO and Coaches will do, or if Gordon/Little are even going to be here next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I saw some good and some bad. I noticed as soon as the game started that he stared down his receiver from the snap until the throw and knew he would end up throwing more than one pick. Can't believe he threw 3 TDs though, and led that final drive. The offense was definitely more exciting with Gordon in the lineup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It was a tale of two halves, as the first half Hoyer looked great, except the one bad pick. The Vikings adjusted in the 2nd half, & basically caved in our line up the middle, and hardly any QB can handle that type of pressure. He was calm down the stretch & put the game winner right-on-the-money to Cameron. That's all I care about right now. He certainly looked poised. I'm glad for the guy. If that game went into OT, I think we all would have been worried...too many mental scars for all of us. Let's be happy and enjoy the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Get the O-line shored up for Hoyer, then dust off a spot for the trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkyoreceiver Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you people have ANY IDEA how much better Brandon Weeden would have looked/performed in the first two games if HE had Josh Gordon out there? Josh Gordon is a freak of nature athlete, a top 5 NFL receiver RIGHT NOW. He is ELITE. He makes those around him BETTER. Josh Gordon changes the ENTIRE complexion of any game he is in. Let me put it ANOTHER way, how do you think Hoyer would have looked if he DIDN'T have Josh Gordon today? Today he had a passer rating around 68. There's is no way ANYONE can dress up a rating THAT LOW. It's BAD. However, when a defense is playing as well as ours did today against someone like AP 68 can maybe allow you to hang around and pull one out, which is what happened. His passer rating today would have been under 60 - perhaps maybe even under 50 - with no Josh Gordon. With no Josh Gordon he'd have been FORCED to throw to Greg Little and Benjamin. Without Josh Gordon, where does what rhythm he WAS able to establish come from? Hoyer completed 55.6% of his passes. That is NOT GOOD. It *CAN BE* GOOD ENOUGH for a third string backup who is pressed into duty to pull one out with a lot of help from defense and special teams and LOTS of turnovers by the other team - again which is what happened today. Seriously, had not Josh Gordon been suspended, there's a very good chance that we'd be AT LEAST 2-1, maybe 3-0 - that means BRANDON WEEDEN would be 2-1 if not 3-0. Before ANYONE starts leaping to ANY conclusions about Weeden NOT STARTING once healthy, I think it needs to be evaluated what Weeden is able to do AS A STARTER with JOSH GORDON on the field. Let me also add that the pass protection today was better than it was in games one and two for Brandon Weeden, and I didn't see anyone dropping passes that should have easily been caught. Perhaps this is from the fire the coaches/FO lit under the asses of the entire roster by getting rid of TR and hinting there's more to come. In any event, that worked in the favor of Hoyer - Weeden has yet to have the equal opportunity to benefit from said improvements, should they prove to last beyond just this one game. If Greg Little hadn't had his head up his ass again last week against the Ravens, Brandon Weeden has got a passer rating in that game somewhere around 90. On the road. Against the Ravens defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you people have ANY IDEA how much better Brandon Weeden would have looked/performed in the first two games if HE had Josh Gordon out there? Josh Gordon is a freak of nature athlete, a top 5 NFL receiver RIGHT NOW. He is ELITE. He makes those around him BETTER. Josh Gordon changes the ENTIRE complexion of any game he is in. Let me put it ANOTHER way, how do you think Hoyer would have looked if he DIDN'T have Josh Gordon today? Today he had a passer rating around 68. There's is no way ANYONE can dress up a rating THAT LOW. It's BAD. However, when a defense is playing as well as ours did today against someone like AP 68 can maybe allow you to hang around and pull one out, which is what happened. His passer today would have been under 60 - perhaps maybe even under 50 - with no Josh Gordon. With no Josh Gordon he'd have been FORCED to throw to Greg Little and Benjamin. Without Josh Gordon, where does what rhythm he WAS able to establish come from? Hoyer completed 55.6% of his passes. That is NOT GOOD. It *CAN BE* GOOD ENOUGH for a third string backup who is pressed into duty to pull one out with a lot of help from defense and special teams and LOTS of turnovers by the other team - again which is what happened today. Seriously, had not Josh Gordon been suspended, there's a very good chance that we'd be AT LEAST 2-1, maybe 3-0 - that means BRANDON WEEDEN would be 2-1 if not 3-0. Before ANYONE starts leaping to ANY conclusions about Weeden NOT STARTING once healthy, I think it needs to be evaluated what Weeden is able to do AS A STARTER with JOSH GORDON on the field. Let me also add that the pass protection today was better than it was in games one and two for Brandon Weeden, and I didn't see anyone dropping passes that should have easily been caught. Perhaps this is from the fire the coaches/FO lit under the asses of the entire roster by getting rid of TR and hinting there's more to come. In any event, that worked in the favor of Hoyer - Weeden has yet to have the equal opportunity to benefit from said improvements, should they prove to last beyond just this one game. If Greg Little hadn't had his head up his ass again last week against the Ravens, Brandon Weeden has got a passer rating in that game somewhere around 90. On the road. Against the Ravens defense. No one ever wants to see Weeden again. He sucks. He has no touch. He doesn't put the ball in the right spot. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Also this: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_browns_brian_hoyer_g.html Clay Pigeons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Good God ... Shut the fuck up. Weeden had 17 starts. He's dumb. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you people have ANY IDEA how much better Brandon Weeden would have looked/performed in the first two games if HE had Josh Gordon out there? Josh Gordon is a freak of nature athlete, a top 5 NFL receiver RIGHT NOW. He is ELITE. He makes those around him BETTER. Josh Gordon changes the ENTIRE complexion of any game he is in. Let me put it ANOTHER way, how do you think Hoyer would have looked if he DIDN'T have Josh Gordon today? Today he had a passer rating around 68. There's is no way ANYONE can dress up a rating THAT LOW. It's BAD. However, when a defense is playing as well as ours did today against someone like AP 68 can maybe allow you to hang around and pull one out, which is what happened. His passer rating today would have been under 60 - perhaps maybe even under 50 - with no Josh Gordon. With no Josh Gordon he'd have been FORCED to throw to Greg Little and Benjamin. Without Josh Gordon, where does what rhythm he WAS able to establish come from? Hoyer completed 55.6% of his passes. That is NOT GOOD. It *CAN BE* GOOD ENOUGH for a third string backup who is pressed into duty to pull one out with a lot of help from defense and special teams and LOTS of turnovers by the other team - again which is what happened today. Seriously, had not Josh Gordon been suspended, there's a very good chance that we'd be AT LEAST 2-1, maybe 3-0 - that means BRANDON WEEDEN would be 2-1 if not 3-0. Before ANYONE starts leaping to ANY conclusions about Weeden NOT STARTING once healthy, I think it needs to be evaluated what Weeden is able to do AS A STARTER with JOSH GORDON on the field. Let me also add that the pass protection today was better than it was in games one and two for Brandon Weeden, and I didn't see anyone dropping passes that should have easily been caught. Perhaps this is from the fire the coaches/FO lit under the asses of the entire roster by getting rid of TR and hinting there's more to come. In any event, that worked in the favor of Hoyer - Weeden has yet to have the equal opportunity to benefit from said improvements, should they prove to last beyond just this one game. If Greg Little hadn't had his head up his ass again last week against the Ravens, Brandon Weeden has got a passer rating in that game somewhere around 90. On the road. Against the Ravens defense. ifs, and or buts, weeden sucks. Who's to say weeden could have accurately thrown to Gordon? Hoyer got it done weeds did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Also, you know, Weeden had Gordon all year last year and sucked so, so bad. Abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Also, you know, Weeden had Gordon all year last year and sucked so, so bad. Abysmal. Gordon and Weeden were rookies under Pat Shurmur. Your point is moot. Without Gordon, Hoyer is back on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Gordon and Weeden were rookies under Pat Shurmur. Your point is moot. Without Gordon, Hoyer is back on the bench. Nah I don't think its moot at all. Weeden is a bum. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Nah I don't think its moot at all. Weeden is a bum. That is all. nope. Hoyer with a 62 QB rating today..............goes beyond the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you people have ANY IDEA how much better Brandon Weeden would have looked/performed in the first two games if HE had Josh Gordon out there? Josh Gordon is a freak of nature athlete, a top 5 NFL receiver RIGHT NOW. He is ELITE. He makes those around him BETTER. Josh Gordon changes the ENTIRE complexion of any game he is in. Let me put it ANOTHER way, how do you think Hoyer would have looked if he DIDN'T have Josh Gordon today? Today he had a passer rating around 68. There's is no way ANYONE can dress up a rating THAT LOW. It's BAD. However, when a defense is playing as well as ours did today against someone like AP 68 can maybe allow you to hang around and pull one out, which is what happened. His passer rating today would have been under 60 - perhaps maybe even under 50 - with no Josh Gordon. With no Josh Gordon he'd have been FORCED to throw to Greg Little and Benjamin. Without Josh Gordon, where does what rhythm he WAS able to establish come from? Hoyer completed 55.6% of his passes. That is NOT GOOD. It *CAN BE* GOOD ENOUGH for a third string backup who is pressed into duty to pull one out with a lot of help from defense and special teams and LOTS of turnovers by the other team - again which is what happened today. Seriously, had not Josh Gordon been suspended, there's a very good chance that we'd be AT LEAST 2-1, maybe 3-0 - that means BRANDON WEEDEN would be 2-1 if not 3-0. Before ANYONE starts leaping to ANY conclusions about Weeden NOT STARTING once healthy, I think it needs to be evaluated what Weeden is able to do AS A STARTER with JOSH GORDON on the field. Let me also add that the pass protection today was better than it was in games one and two for Brandon Weeden, and I didn't see anyone dropping passes that should have easily been caught. Perhaps this is from the fire the coaches/FO lit under the asses of the entire roster by getting rid of TR and hinting there's more to come. In any event, that worked in the favor of Hoyer - Weeden has yet to have the equal opportunity to benefit from said improvements, should they prove to last beyond just this one game. If Greg Little hadn't had his head up his ass again last week against the Ravens, Brandon Weeden has got a passer rating in that game somewhere around 90. On the road. Against the Ravens defense. Relax pal. Weeden will sit for the rest of the year. Because Chud is no idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Relax pal. Weeden will sit for the rest of the year. Because Chud is no idiot. Nope, he was just telling you reailty. Weeden will be back out there if they don't trade/cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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