LBC mike Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Watch our 7th rounder be our best pick in a couple of years. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 What would we have to give up for Crabtree? Million dollar question. Only 1 year left on his rookie deal, some injury history. I wouldn't give more than a mid round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Sheard is still on his rookie deal which would be doable for the 49ers.. Not a suggestion, just an example of what COULD be an option.. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 ^^^This. He's the only name on my radar right now. I like Coleman for his height advantage. If we brought him and Janis in I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I like Coleman for his height advantage. If we brought him and Janis in I'd be happy. Janis got grabbed by the Packers, but they also grabbed 3 WR, so at least two are likely to be cut at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummie Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Dion Bailey, S (spelling?) and Christian Jones. Both projected as a mid round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummie Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I seen 1 or 2 tweets last night from journalists saying we are looking at trading for Michael Crabtree and Roddy White ....any buzz in Cleveland on these rumors ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I havent heard anything about that, but I hope something happens, we need wrs bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I haven't heard anything either. I highly doubt any trade is made until AFTER we have rookie mini camp. The FO is going to want to see who is worth keeping from the rookie stock before it clears to room it needs to trade for a player. That is unless the trade includes us trading away a play, in which case news could start speeding up on this issue. However, without any Browns beat writters picking this up, I feel it is just more local speculation in San Fan and Atlanta at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 heres the problem all teams now will try up there price being they know we need a reciever bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouthKC Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 heres the problem all teams now will try up there price being they know we need a reciever bad And if they do then fuck em. They can be without Crabtree next year and nothing to show for it. He's worth a 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 heres the problem all teams now will try up there price being they know we need a reciever bad I don't think so. Value is value and if teams are looking to move a WR, they will move them for what they think is fair value. In Crabtree's situation, the team is not out of cap room and they really have no hope of resigning him after the season. Given that he only really has mid level production and has injury concerns, I would have to think that the 49ers wouldn't be able to net anything more than a 3rd round pick for him. They are going to want to get something for him instead of letting him walk, and that can work towards OUR advantage in any possible trade talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 What would we have to give up for Crabtree? I could see using that 2015 6th we got from Baltimore to pick up either Crabtree or White. We won't be trading any players until we closer to the cut dates... Either way, a trade like this might not happen for a while, but it is the type of move we need to make to bring in a vet WR that can "act like" our WR1 this season just as a stop-gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I don't think a 6th for White is going to get a call back from the ATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 No, not even close with the 6th with Roddy White. I doubt the 4th from Buffalo would get it done. Roddy White is a good WR. I would give up a 3rd for him in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Here are some stats for Roddy White. Just took them off ESPN. In 13 games last year, 63 catches for 711 yards and 3 TD's. That was also with Julio Jones so no threat on other side In 16 games in 2012, 92 catches for 1351 yards and 7 TD's. In 141 Career games, 685 catches for 9436 yards and 55 TD's. That would average out to 68 catches for 943 yards and 5 TD's. If he can have that kind of year, that for sure warrants a 3rd or 4th round pick if ATL is trying to trade him. Doesn't replace Gordon, but about the best we can hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 My only issue is his age. Do we want to give a 3rd rounder for a receiver who is starting to show his age? It's a coin toss as to whether he is going to have a 2012 year or a 2013 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Well think of it this way HB, even considering his age. I would say he would still have a good 3-4 years left. I do think he can still produce at a high level. He may not put up 2012 numbers, depends on the other receiver across from him AND the QB throwing to him. But who would you rather have at this point, Roddy White or one of the following (3- Josh Huff, Donte Moncrief, John Brown;4- Jalen Saunders, Bruce Ellington, Shaq Evans, Martavis Bryant, Kevin Norwood or so on). I know what my answer would be at this point. Maybe one of those comes out and becomes the next Roddy White or better, but I would go with the proven commodity who is still producing. This team has a chance to be special, and remember, this FO passed on every single one of these guys already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 a 6th rd pick will get you neither 1 of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Well think of it this way HB, even considering his age. I would say he would still have a good 3-4 years left. I do think he can still produce at a high level. He may not put up 2012 numbers, depends on the other receiver across from him AND the QB throwing to him. But who would you rather have at this point, Roddy White or one of the following (3- Josh Huff, Donte Moncrief, John Brown;4- Jalen Saunders, Bruce Ellington, Shaq Evans, Martavis Bryant, Kevin Norwood or so on). I know what my answer would be at this point. Maybe one of those comes out and becomes the next Roddy White or better, but I would go with the proven commodity who is still producing. This team has a chance to be special, and remember, this FO passed on every single one of these guys already. At this point my thought process isn't between him or them. It's between him and Crabtree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisville Slugger Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Wasn't Mike Wallace on the trade block earlier in the off-season? It seems crazy that they would trade him after 1 year, but it is the dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummie Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Wasn't Mike Wallace on the trade block earlier in the off-season? It seems crazy that they would trade him after 1 year, but it is the dolphins Wallace would be a good pickup, but only if there was a prearranged agreement that his contract would be restructured. Not worth that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 a 3rd for wallace but only a 4th for johnson i think johnson is the better player of those 2 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Mike Wallace - I give the Dolphins a 3rd round pick and re-negoitate his contract. Michael Crabtree - See above. Andre Johnson - I'd give up a 4th Roddy White - I'd give up a 3rd MIles Austin and Holmes are probably cashed at this point. Well I don't know where all of these names are coming from, but I don't think that any of them can be had for what is being said. We need to look at what the market is. We just saw Stevie Johnson get traded to the 49ers for a 4th round pick. STEVIE JOHNSON. Do you really think that Andre Johnson can be had for the same? Are we talking about the same Andre Johnson that is going to be a potential HOF? I know he is 32, but he also had over 1400 yards last season lol and you think a 4th can get him? What are you smoking? Like I said I would give up 3rd in a heartbeat for Roddy White. I would give up a 2 of them for him, do the same for Andre Johnson. I would gladly give up a 2nd for them. If you wouldn't rather have either one of them on this team over a Marquis Lee or anyone of the other 2nd round drafted WR's then I dont know what you are seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 So is somebody under the impression that there is an all-pro wide receiver in round six seven or undrafted? Really? I think they've known about this for a while and are happy Enough with Hawkins and Cooper. WSS It has happened that a Pro Bowl caliber WR can be obtained as a UDFA. Like a Victor Cruz. Browns do have some UDFA starters on this team. The Little Gipper for one. I believe Ben Tate was a UDFA, Craig Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ben Tate was a second round pick who lost his starting spot to Foster who was an UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ben Tate was a second round pick who lost his starting spot to Foster who was an UDFA. OK, I knew one of those was a UDFA, I just got the wrong one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I could see using that 2015 6th we got from Baltimore to pick up either Crabtree or White. We won't be trading any players until we closer to the cut dates... Either way, a trade like this might not happen for a while, but it is the type of move we need to make to bring in a vet WR that can "act like" our WR1 this season just as a stop-gap. If Ray Farmer can pull off trading a 6th for either of those players he can likely walk on water as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I am going out on a limb and predicting we talk to the Giants about Rueben Randle. They brought in Beckham, are pretty deep at WR and I think its possible the would move him. I will get shit for this other one but I would like to look on the cheap at Ramses Barden who I think is now on cheap retainer with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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