Soju Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Anyone with a working brain could see how much better the offense looked, how much more in sync and in rhythm it was working out of the no huddle. If the Browns go back to the huddle I'm done with them for the rest of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Please Browns, go with the huddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Please Browns, go with the huddle. you prefer horrible out of sync offense? you flaming faggot moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 you prefer horrible out of sync offense? you flaming faggot moron. Wow, soju a tough guy today! Drinking to much soju and vomiting kim chee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted September 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Wow, soju a tough guy today! Drinking to much soju and vomiting kim chee? its been proven the best teams use no huddle, our offense looked night and day..the last two drives we stopped the no huddle and we couldn't advance the ball...its not rocket science. if it works USE IT. and kimchi is disgusting i dont eat that crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I love it. Used to chomp on some before Rugby matches to breathe into the other teams face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdawg2010 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'm all for it! I've been saying it for years that to beat Pittsburgh you have to come at them with an up tempo offensive scheme, as well as implement the no huddle to keep them off balance! It worked! My question is, where the fuck was it in the first half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Please Browns, go with the huddle. lmao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Please Browns, go with the huddle. lol translation into internet board speak................................IMA GONNA TROLL YOU!!!!! and Soju bit on it hard lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 So before the 1st play vs new Orleans I'll bet we huddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Guarantee we open the game up by huddling. Then we switch when the other team's D is in a bad set and create mismatches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Obviously I'm all in on this having watched it exclusively with A&M the past 2+ years. Here's a nice little article by Chan Gailey on it. http://afcastore.com/products/showexcerpt.cfm?excerpt_id=2862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 One of the reasons the no huddle worked so well is that it caught the squealers off guard. You need a balanced attack. Because a draw play works once doesn't mean you should run the draw play on every down. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 They asked Hoyer about going with the no huddle a lot, and he said it wasn't practical - you can't keep up that pace throughout the game. So, there ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah he said his linemen would lose 30 pounds each by the end of the year if they stuck with the no-huddle as the norm every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_brown Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 They asked Hoyer about going with the no huddle a lot, and he said it wasn't practical - you can't keep up that pace throughout the game. So, there ya go. why not....college teams do it....aren't the nfl players in as good shape as they are...??? it just takes discipline and practice.....when run successfully, it definitely gives the offense an edge.....don't be too lazy to take it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 well, college teams pretty much don't have 27-38 year olds on the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 ^ True, cal, but I think we will see a fair amount of it in Week 2. Rob (the good Ryan) Ryan likes to swap personnel packages for his exotic schemes as much as any DC in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 ^ True, cal, but I think we will see a fair amount of it in Week 2. Rob (the good Ryan) Ryan likes to swap personnel packages for his exotic schemes as much as any DC in the league. But Rob has a propensity for running a lot of exotic zone packages,leaving his DB's out on an island... And that's exactly what I hope he does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 They asked Hoyer about going with the no huddle a lot, and he said it wasn't practical - you can't keep up that pace throughout the game. So, there ya go. Yes you can. Texas A&M has a strength & conditioning coach whose sole job from spring through summer is get them in shape to run full speed all the time both on offense and defense. This is what the best O Lineman in the country looks like after Coach "Black Death" Jackson gets through with him. That's just a little bitty 220 lb. RB he's holding up here. https://www.google.com/search?q=cedric+ogbuehi&biw=1600&bih=763&tbm=isch&imgil=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%253A%253Be49KqwxQiOS0kM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.nfl.com%25252Fnews%25252Fstory%25252F0ap2000000265446%25252Farticle%25252Ftexas-ams-cedric-ogbuehi-plans-to-return-for-senior-season&source=iu&fir=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%253A%252Ce49KqwxQiOS0kM%252C_&usg=__AlnNdv9OUagl7_wQU63PB6RTWG8%3D&sa=X&ei=BiQPVKuGEqbW8AHhvYC4Dw&sqi=2&ved=0CIMBEP4dMAw#facrc=_&imgdii=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%3A%3Beyl4egonYXBpBM%3Bi5NwdCTprJ5ykM%3A&imgrc=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%253A%3Be49KqwxQiOS0kM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.nfl.com%252Fstatic%252Fcontent%252Fpublic%252Fphoto%252F2013%252F10%252F19%252F0ap2000000265442.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nfl.com%252Fnews%252Fstory%252F0ap2000000265446%252Farticle%252Ftexas-ams-cedric-ogbuehi-plans-to-return-for-senior-season%3B640%3B350 Well it switches pictures but you can click on it. Against SC he wasn't even winded when their defense was exhausted by the 4th quarter. Nor were any of their O linemen winded despite over 60o yds of offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yes you can. Texas A&M has a strength & conditioning coach whose sole job from spring through summer is get them is shape to run full speed all the time both on offense and defense. This is what the best O Lineman in the country looks like after Coach "Black Death" Jackson gets through with him. That's just a little bitty 220 lb. RB he's holding up here. https://www.google.com/search?q=cedric+ogbuehi&biw=1600&bih=763&tbm=isch&imgil=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%253A%253Be49KqwxQiOS0kM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.nfl.com%25252Fnews%25252Fstory%25252F0ap2000000265446%25252Farticle%25252Ftexas-ams-cedric-ogbuehi-plans-to-return-for-senior-season&source=iu&fir=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%253A%252Ce49KqwxQiOS0kM%252C_&usg=__AlnNdv9OUagl7_wQU63PB6RTWG8%3D&sa=X&ei=BiQPVKuGEqbW8AHhvYC4Dw&sqi=2&ved=0CIMBEP4dMAw#facrc=_&imgdii=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%3A%3Beyl4egonYXBpBM%3Bi5NwdCTprJ5ykM%3A&imgrc=i5NwdCTprJ5ykM%253A%3Be49KqwxQiOS0kM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.nfl.com%252Fstatic%252Fcontent%252Fpublic%252Fphoto%252F2013%252F10%252F19%252F0ap2000000265442.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nfl.com%252Fnews%252Fstory%252F0ap2000000265446%252Farticle%252Ftexas-ams-cedric-ogbuehi-plans-to-return-for-senior-season%3B640%3B350 Against SC he wasn't even winded when their defense was exhausted by the 4th quarter. That will work in College, but pros I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The issue isn't so much the athletes or the conditioning, but its a huge cause for injury concern. You have bigger, faster players and you're giving them warp speed reps on both sides of the ball. Its a terrible idea. Also, a giant negative for your defense. Lets say you go out and have a bad 1st half like the Brownies did, only you're running up tempo every series. There isn't a chance in hell your defense comes out in the 2nd half with their wind. It just isn't practical over the course of a season in the NFL. A full game? Yeah, maybe. However, much like anything else, up tempo has a time and a place. The Browns executed quite well, to their benefit on Sunday. I'd prefer that it not be the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Anyone with a working brain could see how much better the offense looked, how much more in sync and in rhythm it was working out of the no huddle. If the Browns go back to the huddle I'm done with them for the rest of my life. The offense the browns ran on Sunday is not sustainable exclusively for an entire season. I'd be curious to see how many seconds there were between plays. The eagles try and get cute and run a ton of plays in a small time frame and its blown up in their face. I read there were a few plays Sunday were the browns had snapped the ball before the steelers had the play call in. Sure they can run the wheels off their healthy running backs but a no huddle at that pace isn't sustainable AND the opposition adjusts week to week. It worked Sunday because it was a surprise. Edit: I see others have said the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The issue isn't so much the athletes or the conditioning, but its a huge cause for injury concern. You have bigger, faster players and you're giving them warp speed reps on both sides of the ball. Its a terrible idea. Also, a giant negative for your defense. Lets say you go out and have a bad 1st half like the Brownies did, only you're running up tempo every series. There isn't a chance in hell your defense comes out in the 2nd half with their wind. It just isn't practical over the course of a season in the NFL. A full game? Yeah, maybe. However, much like anything else, up tempo has a time and a place. The Browns executed quite well, to their benefit on Sunday. I'd prefer that it not be the norm. I see you are buying into Nick Saban complaint about injuries. It's totally unfounded. A&M has kept track to see if there were increased injuries since they run their practices exactly the way they run their games. No difference whatsoever. Now Saban is experimenting with it since he obviously has a hard time stopping it with his "NFL" defenses. It's the future in the NFL so either ride the wave or get swallowed by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I see you are buying into Nick Saban complaint about injuries. It's totally unfounded. A&M has kept track to see if there were increased injuries since they run their practices exactly the way they run their games. No difference whatsoever. Now Saban is experimenting with it since he obviously has a hard time stopping it with his "NFL" defenses. It's the future in the NFL so either ride the wave or get swallowed by it. 12 games with 3/4 of your players never going to see the NFL vs the greatest athletes on the planet over the course of a minimum 16 game schedule, including the elements for many teams. I know you think everything at your precious College Station translates to the NFL, but it simply does not. I also noticed you conveniently left out the issue I raise of setting up your own defense for collapse. Unless you have the "fuck it, we'll outscore them" mentality of Chip Kelly. In which case, get back to me when that mode of thinking wins him a playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 This is what the best O Lineman in the country looks like after Coach "Black Death" Jackson gets through with him. What's that kid's name again? I don't think you've mentioned it yet... today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 That will work in College, but pros I doubt it. Really-please tell Manning to stop breaking all those offensive records at Denver in that case. He apparently is not a Browns Board member or he would have taken advice here. Tour-I'm only good for one memory cell a day, so I use it wisely to help save the Browns from their next drafting mistake. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The offense the browns ran on Sunday is not sustainable exclusively for an entire season. I'd be curious to see how many seconds there were between plays. The eagles try and get cute and run a ton of plays in a small time frame and its blown up in their face. Blown up??? I too thought Philly's extreme take on it to be a "cute" gimmick at first. But it's an interesting experiment that is not yet complete. Year one of it was more successful than I would have thought possible at the NFL level. And the way the Eagles poured it on in the second half of their opener would seem to indicate that it might be an even greater asset in year two. The hurry up is no panacea, but the number of teams now employing it as their predominate, offensive pace is growing. I have come to accept that... just so long as NFL QBs don't start looking to the sidelines for audible guidance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The Ben and the Steelers have predicted more no-huddle offense for themselves. I don't watch them closely, but I heard that's what got them to 8-8 last year and out of having a losing season? Once Ben convinced Todd Haley he wanted to run no-huddle (meaning he called the plays instead of Haley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_brown Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 12 games with 3/4 of your players never going to see the NFL vs the greatest athletes on the planet over the course of a minimum 16 game schedule, including the elements for many teams. I know you think everything at your precious College Station translates to the NFL, but it simply does not. I also noticed you conveniently left out the issue I raise of setting up your own defense for collapse. Unless you have the "fuck it, we'll outscore them" mentality of Chip Kelly. In which case, get back to me when that mode of thinking wins him a playoff game. in my experience, outscoring the other team almost always results in a win.....in fact...that's the fucking objective, last time i checked..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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